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      • ianmcorvidae
        (or such)
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      • warp
        musicbrainz needs some way for clients to know if data for a particular MBID has changed.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it really does
      • 2012-01-31 03105, 2012

      • warp
        then clients can safely cache things locally
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        do we use ETags at least?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I feel like we do
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ostensibly that could at least save some bandwidth, if not server work
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm, I don't see any
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      • warp
        there's mention of it in the makefile, but that's about it.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, our HTML pages have ETags, but not WS stuff
      • 2012-01-31 03105, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        also evidently we're returning '304 OK' rather than '304 Not Modified'
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      • warp
        urgh
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      • warp
        terrible
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, MBS-358 has almost no information on what's blocking it, what needs doing, etc.
      • 2012-01-31 03128, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        (actually, not almost: just plain no information)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        huh, wow, turning on chromium's experimental flag for using GPU to help with canvas 2D rendering really helps the MB timeline graph
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (well, on an alternate site where it actually works, since it's currently broken on the main site)
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      • jacobbrett
        Would somebody mind approving this edit? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/16432848
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      • hrglgrmpf
        jacobbrett: no problem!
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      • jacobbrett
        Awesome, thank you!
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      • jacobbrett
        hrglgrmpf, if you feel like it, you could also vote on a few other edits to clean this release's tracklist up http://musicbrainz.org/release/7dcd70e3-6000-4add…
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      • hrglgrmpf
        will do :-)
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      • jacobbrett
        Hmm, can anybody tell me if merging two releases will also merge their recordings (dupe recordings for a dupe release, sigh)?
      • 2012-01-31 03156, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I think there's an option on the merge releases screen to do that
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      • jacobbrett
        Ah, silly me "Merge mediums and recordings". Thanks.
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        hi everyone, are there vinyl specialists here ? ^^
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        I have a Lonnie Johnson vinyl where I don't know how to choose the label : Storyville is the most obvious but there are numerous mentions (on the cardboard) of Pure Pleasure Analogue and the cat. no seems to contain both: "PPAN SLP162"
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        so idk if Pure Pleasure should only be considered as the manufacturer or if it's a label
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      • juhae
        might be a rerelease by PPAN
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      • kovacsur
        looks like that record isn't present in the current Storyville catalogue, the original SLP release is from 1963
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      • kovacsur
        I'd use Pure Pleasure Analogue
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        It seems you're right, lookin in the PP catalog it seems to be a re-release : http://www.purepleasurerecords.com/product_info.p…
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      • juhae
        just be sure to dig up the rerelease date somewhere
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      • kovacsur
        it's right there on that page :)
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      • _5moufl
        hey
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      • _5moufl
        Is it possible to edit 2 tracklists at the same time (of the same release group)
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      • juhae
        kovacsur, 10 october 2008 isnt necessarily the release date, if that's what you mean
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      • juhae
        might just as well be the date they added it to their net shop
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        what bugs me is that there aren't any mention of another release date on the scans I have
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        btw, I was wondering for a few days: when you create a new release for a remaster, do you use the previous recordings or should you create new ones ?
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      • Innocuous
        He I want to tag an album that contains a medley: should I follow this proposal, because there is no right way to do this yet? http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:Medley_Style
      • 2012-01-31 03120, 2012

      • kovacsur
        juhae, it's the site of the label itself. The date they added the release to their catalogue is when it became available
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      • kovacsur
        Sekhmetouserapis, remasters should be new recordings, especially if the person who did the remastering is known
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      • kovacsur
        the new and old recordings can then be linked through a remaster relationship http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Remaster_Relationship…
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        ok, thanks
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      • _5moufl
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      • _5moufl
        nvm
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      • _5moufl
        Do mind actually
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      • _5moufl
        Shouldn't it be the other way ?
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      • Sekhmetouserapis
        after linking the old recordings and the remasters, should the person who was in charge of it credited as "mastering engineer" ? Or just mentioned in the annotation maybe ?
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      • kovacsur
        I usually simply use the "mastered" AR, I think it's sufficient
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      • kovacsur
        jacobbrett suggested also adding an annotation when you asked the same question last time :)
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      • ehrgeiz
        oh damn it, whats up with that '502 Bad Gateway'...
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      • ehrgeiz
        if i do big querys/edits i always get them.
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      • ehrgeiz
        editing tracklist of a bigger release is impossible
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      • ehrgeiz
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      • MClemo
        ehrgeiz: there's an open ticket for that. At least for the related problem that some big releases cannot be loaded at all
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      • ehrgeiz
        MClemo: thx. i think thats the ticket http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-3524 (the big release ticket might be related too)
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      • mat_
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      • Mineo
        mat_: you only need to click "merge release" on both pages
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      • Mineo
        the server will figure out the positions of both discs by itself in this case
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      • mat_
        oh, ok, that was hard :-)
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      • mat_
        thank you
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      • Mineo
        no problem
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      • kepstin-laptop
        awesome, I have just correlated a musicbrainz-related tweet by a japanese person to their user account on musicbrainz, because they mentioned a release they just added.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        yo
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        wow, stalker!kepsin
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        :O
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      • kepstin-laptop
        heh
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      • kepstin-laptop just searches 'musicbrainz' on twitter now and then
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      • frewsxcv
        is there an easy way to tell whether a Label in the musicbrainz db is affiliated with the RIAA?
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      • reosarevok
        No
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      • reosarevok
        Not from MB, at least
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      • reosarevok
        Is there a list of RIAA-affiliated labels anywhere?
      • 2012-01-31 03104, 2012

      • reosarevok doesn't really know how that works
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      • reosarevok
        I'd assume it would more be a list of publishers and/or corporations
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      • reosarevok
        Rather than imprints
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      • reosarevok
        So it wouldn't map cleanly
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      • derwin
        reosarevok there is, sec.
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      • derwin
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      • derwin
        but yes, it doesn't do imprints, and is therefore of limited use.
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      • reosarevok
        So, frewsxcv: you could try to map names and it would help a little bit
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      • reosarevok
        But that's about all
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      • frewsxcv
        reosarevok: map names to that RIAA website with the list of labels?
      • 2012-01-31 03109, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • frewsxcv
        i ask because i'm about to obtain ownership of http://riaaradar.com , which used to be a site that would show whether the imputted artist/album is RIAA affiliated
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      • frewsxcv
        and i'm thinking about the logistics, maybe using musicbrainz or discogs
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      • reosarevok
        Neither of them would be specially simple
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      • reosarevok
        But if you can map imprints to their actual controlling companies
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      • Clint
        doesn't riaa.com provide all that info?
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      • frewsxcv
        Clint: i can input an artist and it will tell me if their releases are RIAA affiliated?
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      • frewsxcv
        if that functionality already exists in riaa.com, let me know
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      • nikkiphone
        g remember that site :o
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      • frewsxcv
        well hopefully i can find some people to help me with the site. the past guy wrote it in MSSQL and ASP.net and did most of the database population by hand
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      • Clint
        frewsxcv: ah, sorry, i was misremembering http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php
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      • derwin
        I remember that site too, glad to hear someone is resurrecting it
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      • derwin
        it seems like maintaining a list based semi-manually on the label
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      • derwin
        list from riaa.com, and then mapping to imprints and maintaining a database of relations to mb labels
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      • derwin
        you could do pretty well?
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