15:40 PM
CatCat
some stuff as gnere. is soem guy singign but he's a rapper ,or soem stuff sounds differnt (soem japanese guy) but it's credited as "rap"
2012-04-05 09645, 2012
15:40 PM
CatCat
same as puttign "instruments" as credited .. but that guy
2012-04-05 09652, 2012
15:40 PM
CatCat never uses lead
2012-04-05 09658, 2012
15:40 PM
CatCat
no liners i've seenuses lead
2012-04-05 09621, 2012
15:41 PM
reosarevok
I have seen some
2012-04-05 09624, 2012
15:41 PM
reosarevok
They do exist
2012-04-05 09640, 2012
15:41 PM
CatCat
and i miss the chorus/choir distinktion
2012-04-05 09600, 2012
15:42 PM
reosarevok
What distinction?
2012-04-05 09603, 2012
15:42 PM
CatCat
ironically it's the same word in norwegian, "kor"
2012-04-05 09612, 2012
15:42 PM
CatCat
chorus is chorus, choir is.. a chour
2012-04-05 09615, 2012
15:42 PM
reosarevok
It's either a choir, or background vocals
2012-04-05 09616, 2012
15:42 PM
CatCat
choir
2012-04-05 09621, 2012
15:42 PM
CatCat
what?
2012-04-05 09639, 2012
15:42 PM
reosarevok
(chorus and choir are used pretty much as synonyms in English for what I know)
2012-04-05 09639, 2012
15:42 PM
SultS
it’s not, reosarevok
2012-04-05 09645, 2012
15:42 PM
CatCat
choir is a lot of peope lsinging in a choir isn't it? whiel chorus is .. the chourus
2012-04-05 09647, 2012
15:42 PM
CatCat
kor
2012-04-05 09601, 2012
15:43 PM
SultS
choir = multiple people, afaik
2012-04-05 09603, 2012
15:43 PM
CatCat
this labum has "kor"
2012-04-05 09605, 2012
15:43 PM
reosarevok
chorus is used often as "group of people singing" being the ssame as choir
2012-04-05 09613, 2012
15:43 PM
SultS
chorus can be 1 person singing it
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
15:43 PM
CatCat
in languages withouth this distinktion yea
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
15:43 PM
SultS
(or more)
2012-04-05 09627, 2012
15:43 PM
CatCat
SultS: yea!
2012-04-05 09655, 2012
15:43 PM
reosarevok
"c : an organized company of singers who sing in concert : choir; especially : a body of singers who sing the choral parts of a work (as in opera)"
2012-04-05 09659, 2012
15:43 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-05 09612, 2012
15:44 PM
reosarevok
I mean, it is also a part of the song, but that's not a kind of vocals...
2012-04-05 09617, 2012
15:44 PM
CatCat
i hate putting this "kor" (as in chorus) as choir as in "choir" (also kor in norwegian9
2012-04-05 09648, 2012
15:44 PM
SultS
if only 1 person sings only the chorus, I can’t credit it (I’ve wanted to)
2012-04-05 09650, 2012
15:44 PM
CatCat
you can sing the chorus , but you sing IN a choir
2012-04-05 09601, 2012
15:45 PM
CatCat
SultS: uh i stil do that :P
2012-04-05 09610, 2012
15:45 PM
SultS
:P
2012-04-05 09611, 2012
15:45 PM
CatCat
it *was* called chorus before
2012-04-05 09616, 2012
15:45 PM
reosarevok
CatCat: wtf?
2012-04-05 09624, 2012
15:45 PM
CatCat
what?
2012-04-05 09626, 2012
15:45 PM
reosarevok
You use "choir vocals" for one singer singing a chorus?
2012-04-05 09633, 2012
15:45 PM
nikki uses background vocals for all her chorus credits
2012-04-05 09634, 2012
15:45 PM
reosarevok
That's like... ugh
2012-04-05 09638, 2012
15:45 PM
CatCat
of course
2012-04-05 09649, 2012
15:45 PM
CatCat
they are singing the chourus, kor and kor is the same in norwegian
2012-04-05 09651, 2012
15:45 PM
SultS
nikki, unfortunately it’s not automatically background
2012-04-05 09601, 2012
15:46 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-05 09602, 2012
15:46 PM
CatCat
reosarevok: what else am i supposed ot use
2012-04-05 09606, 2012
15:46 PM
reosarevok
Nothing to do with it
2012-04-05 09608, 2012
15:46 PM
nikki
SultS: I also tag every single one of them, in the hope that one day I'll be able to fix them :P
2012-04-05 09610, 2012
15:46 PM
reosarevok
huh, vocals?
2012-04-05 09629, 2012
15:46 PM
reosarevok
Dunno
2012-04-05 09631, 2012
15:46 PM
reosarevok
Not choir :p
2012-04-05 09641, 2012
15:46 PM
SultS
I use background for only background, so I would get them mixed up :P
2012-04-05 09652, 2012
15:46 PM
CatCat
sults me too
2012-04-05 09603, 2012
15:47 PM
nikki
SultS: I'm pretty sure most of them are background vocals in the chorus section of the song though
2012-04-05 09612, 2012
15:47 PM
nikki
but it's not like I can tell :(
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
15:47 PM
reosarevok
If the "chorus" credit is "person who sings the chorus, as opposed as the verses", then it's vocals + annotation if you want to store that info
2012-04-05 09629, 2012
15:47 PM
CatCat
we need "vocal credits" :/
2012-04-05 09622, 2012
15:48 PM
CatCat
no it's someone (usually a 3 people) credited as "kor" which has the double meaning of )chorus/choir in Norwegian)
2012-04-05 09634, 2012
15:48 PM
CatCat
on some track
2012-04-05 09657, 2012
15:48 PM
CatCat
eg x, y og z kor på 1-3, 5, 8-11
2012-04-05 09625, 2012
15:49 PM
reosarevok
Individual people as choir is a wrong rel 99% of times
2012-04-05 09635, 2012
15:49 PM
CatCat
probably but it's what i can do
2012-04-05 09638, 2012
15:49 PM
reosarevok
No
2012-04-05 09648, 2012
15:49 PM
reosarevok
You can enter them as vocals, which is true
2012-04-05 09654, 2012
15:49 PM
CatCat
i wish i could chose "chorus as "kor"" but i cannot
2012-04-05 09654, 2012
15:49 PM
reosarevok
Instead of as a choir which they are not :)
2012-04-05 09614, 2012
15:50 PM
CatCat
you're the one that said that they meant the same in english!
2012-04-05 09620, 2012
15:50 PM
SultS
yeah, I would add them just as vocals, if I haven’t heard the song… + annotation
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
15:50 PM
CatCat
that's what I was told when i complained about last time
2012-04-05 09628, 2012
15:50 PM
reosarevok
CatCat: no
2012-04-05 09633, 2012
15:50 PM
reosarevok
"chorus" can mean a choir in English
2012-04-05 09634, 2012
15:50 PM
CatCat
no, becasue they aren1t vocals they are kor
2012-04-05 09656, 2012
15:50 PM
SultS
CatCat, choir does vocals, that’s what they do
2012-04-05 09658, 2012
15:50 PM
reosarevok
Choir always means a group of people singing chorally
2012-04-05 09624, 2012
15:51 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-05 09630, 2012
15:51 PM
CatCat
then that shouldn't be a "vocal" type but a "group" type :P
2012-04-05 09631, 2012
15:51 PM
reosarevok
(girls, whatever)
2012-04-05 09637, 2012
15:51 PM
CatCat
reosarevok: i know that!
2012-04-05 09646, 2012
15:51 PM
SultS
I do wonder why chorus was combined with choir in the past though…
2012-04-05 09653, 2012
15:51 PM
CatCat
SultS: see my confusion
2012-04-05 09611, 2012
15:52 PM
CatCat
well i put the "kor" i nthe comment lien so it can be fixed
2012-04-05 09632, 2012
15:52 PM
CatCat
semantically it is correct in norwegian,
2012-04-05 09640, 2012
15:52 PM
CatCat
transalting it atleast
2012-04-05 09647, 2012
15:52 PM
CatCat
it's not right to chose "vocals"
2012-04-05 09650, 2012
15:52 PM
reosarevok
CatCat: while I'd be happy with it also being a group type, they perform vocals "chorally"
2012-04-05 09652, 2012
15:52 PM
CatCat
not for translating
2012-04-05 09618, 2012
15:53 PM
reosarevok
How is it not right?
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
15:53 PM
CatCat
then it's "chorally" a vocal type and we get "chorus" back"
2012-04-05 09624, 2012
15:53 PM
reosarevok
I mean, "spoken" is a type of vocals
2012-04-05 09635, 2012
15:53 PM
reosarevok
And that's much less "vocals" than chorus
2012-04-05 09638, 2012
15:53 PM
CatCat
only becasue i was insane oen tiem and added it even thoguh i shoudln't have
2012-04-05 09642, 2012
15:53 PM
SultS
<reosarevok> "chorus" can mean a choir in English
2012-04-05 09643, 2012
15:53 PM
CatCat
i got flack for it too
2012-04-05 09651, 2012
15:53 PM
SultS
I have never seen choir === chorus
2012-04-05 09615, 2012
15:54 PM
CatCat
or was that "other"? yea I think it was
2012-04-05 09631, 2012
15:54 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-05 09644, 2012
15:54 PM
reosarevok
"The BBC Symphony Chorus is one of the finest amateur choruses in the country. It makes more television and radio appearances than any similar choir.
2012-04-05 09645, 2012
15:54 PM
reosarevok
"
2012-04-05 09600, 2012
15:55 PM
CatCat
I added "other" withouth going trough dstyle and whatont becasue i thoguht it was for bad that it had t ogo throught al lthast jsut to be obvious.. i wont do it again as it was decided that NO
2012-04-05 09603, 2012
15:55 PM
CatCat
even if i am tempted
2012-04-05 09629, 2012
15:55 PM
CatCat
reosarevok: SO HOW is adding "kor" AS "choir" wrong THEN?
2012-04-05 09634, 2012
15:55 PM
CatCat
:////
2012-04-05 09642, 2012
15:55 PM
reosarevok
Because a choir can be written as chorus
2012-04-05 09650, 2012
15:55 PM
CatCat
choir is kor in .no, chourus is kor in .no
2012-04-05 09651, 2012
15:55 PM
reosarevok
But that's not the only meaning of chorus
2012-04-05 09652, 2012
15:55 PM
SultS
disctionaries make a clear difference of the two
2012-04-05 09613, 2012
15:56 PM
SultS
dictionaries*
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
15:56 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-05 09631, 2012
15:56 PM
CatCat
fuck mirriam webster
2012-04-05 09632, 2012
15:56 PM
reosarevok
c : an organized company of singers who sing in concert : choir; especially : a body of singers who sing the choral parts of a work (as in opera)
2012-04-05 09638, 2012
15:56 PM
derwin
yeah, I've heard "choir" and "chorus" used interchangably?
2012-04-05 09643, 2012
15:56 PM
CatCat
it doesn't load poerly for me and it's american and dildos
2012-04-05 09645, 2012
15:56 PM
derwin
to refer to "the group of people singing"
2012-04-05 09659, 2012
15:56 PM
CatCat
derwin: me too
2012-04-05 09634, 2012
15:57 PM
CatCat
but why can't we have "chorus" in vocal then?
2012-04-05 09637, 2012
15:57 PM
reosarevok
He sings with the Los Angeles Gay Men's Chorus"
2012-04-05 09643, 2012
15:57 PM
reosarevok
(curious choice of chorus :D )
2012-04-05 09659, 2012
15:57 PM
CatCat
he's a gay man from LA obvously :P
2012-04-05 09618, 2012
15:58 PM
reosarevok
CatCat: this is a British English dictionary
2012-04-05 09622, 2012
15:58 PM
reosarevok
Which makes that unlikely
2012-04-05 09642, 2012
15:58 PM
CatCat
reosarevok: it's an example to illustrate the semantics
2012-04-05 09653, 2012
15:58 PM
reosarevok
Sure, it's just a curious choice
2012-04-05 09656, 2012
15:58 PM
CatCat
why?
2012-04-05 09608, 2012
15:59 PM
CatCat
it's probably one they could find that didn't say "choir"
2012-04-05 09617, 2012
15:59 PM
CatCat
(as that's more often9
2012-04-05 09626, 2012
15:59 PM
CatCat
incidentally we have a "fagot kor" here
2012-04-05 09634, 2012
15:59 PM
CatCat
fogot beign an instrument here
2012-04-05 09644, 2012
15:59 PM
CatCat
fagott*
2012-04-05 09646, 2012
15:59 PM
reosarevok
Well, the BBC has one so they didn't have to look to the US for it :)
2012-04-05 09600, 2012
16:00 PM
reosarevok
Anyway, "why we don't have 'chorus' "? no idea
2012-04-05 09602, 2012
16:00 PM
CatCat
a gay man's chorus?
2012-04-05 09607, 2012
16:00 PM
reosarevok
No, a chorus
2012-04-05 09619, 2012
16:00 PM
reosarevok
(nobody required it to be gay for the dictionary :P=
2012-04-05 09620, 2012
16:00 PM
reosarevok
*)
2012-04-05 09636, 2012
16:00 PM
CatCat
reosarevok: last time i asked why not have chorus added, I was litterally told that "choir means the same so use that"
2012-04-05 09648, 2012
16:00 PM
CatCat
2012-04-05 09607, 2012
16:01 PM
CatCat
hah, i was wonderign it it was a pun
2012-04-05 09609, 2012
16:01 PM
CatCat
it is..
2012-04-05 09611, 2012
16:01 PM
CatCat
<3
2012-04-05 09614, 2012
16:01 PM
SultS
2012-04-05 09603, 2012
16:02 PM
SultS
even if they mean the same thing, they (both) also mean a different thing
2012-04-05 09609, 2012
16:02 PM
SultS
imo
2012-04-05 09615, 2012
16:02 PM
CatCat
yea!
2012-04-05 09618, 2012
16:02 PM
CallerNo6
why not keep the examples in a dictionary interesting?
2012-04-05 09623, 2012
16:02 PM
CatCat
so i'd liek ot have tem separate for that
2012-04-05 09637, 2012
16:02 PM
CatCat
CallerNo6: that's probably what the guy who wrote it thougght
2012-04-05 09611, 2012
16:05 PM
reosarevok
SultS: what I mean is that even if the BBC Chorus is called a chorus, what they are and do is the equivalent of our choir, so they should be credited as such
2012-04-05 09640, 2012
16:05 PM
reosarevok
(or the LA Gay Men's Chorus)
2012-04-05 09651, 2012
16:06 PM
SultS
2012-04-05 09603, 2012
16:07 PM
reosarevok
That's a verb
2012-04-05 09608, 2012
16:07 PM
CatCat
heh this choirus of gay men do an annular christmas-concert in Lilleborg kirke.
2012-04-05 09643, 2012
16:07 PM
CatCat
some how I don't see that in certian areas of f.ex america
2012-04-05 09628, 2012
16:08 PM
derwin
being gay, or black, is now fine in america
