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      • ocharles
        I have to port the database access layer to something else that actually tends to build
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      • hawke_1
        I’m not particularly missing it, just reading the topic daily … :-)
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      • ocharles
        heh
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      • ocharles
        we will need it soon, we need to get scheduling again
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      • kepstin-laptop
        huh, discogs actually has artist id numbers?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        ah, they look like they're just database row numbers
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      • tri_marianaaf
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      • tri_marianaaf
        do I go with "Primitive Girl" only? (it's what's written on the cover)
      • 2012-05-22 14313, 2012

      • tri_marianaaf
        or do I include all tracks in the name? Primitive Girl / The Twist & Roll Over Beethoven
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      • xplt
        tri_marianaaf: is it digital-only release?
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      • reosarevok
        I'd go with Primitive Girl only myself, don't know if others would too :)
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      • tri_marianaaf
        thansk ;)
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      • tri_marianaaf
        thanks
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      • xplt
        reosarevok: http://musicbrainz.org/release/ddf9f806-095e-4aed… <--- omg, I'll die during linking all of this stuff to works... Is it really impossible to automate? :'(
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      • hawke_1
        xplt: There’s a userscript which helps with that a lot…
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      • hawke_1
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      • xplt
        hawke_1: I'll try it! Thanks!
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      • jesus2099
        xplt: Relate recordings to works from a release http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/128593
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      • jesus2099
        sorry hawke_1 I didn’t refresh the chat logs ;)
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      • xplt
        jesus2099: :)
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      • hawke_1
        jesus2099: All good, lol
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      • hawke_1
        Anyone have an idea why http://musicbrainz.org/recording/76464147-2989-44… is credited to Reginald Owen Morris? (not the performer, it seems…but the composer/lyricist are traditional and it’s a trad. folk song.)
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      • xplt
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      • noobie
        End of metadata did not start audio
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      • noobie
        will this be fixed when i save it with picard ?
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      • hawke_1
        xplt: Of course, the recordings should be credited to the performer…
      • 2012-05-22 14341, 2012

      • hawke_1
        xplt: (not the tracklist, necessarily though)
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      • xplt
        hawke_1: huh?
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      • hawke_1
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      • noobie
        hm there are some releases on amazon and jpc which claim johann strauss II as artist
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      • noobie
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      • xplt
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      • noobie
        well it was composed by js I but maybe performed at a later time by his son ?
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      • noobie is not not into classical though
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      • xplt
        hawke_1: why? I always thought, that editor should to attach performers through relationships, no?
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      • hawke_1
        xplt: They should do that too.
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      • hawke_1
        xplt: But the reason is that if recordings are credited to composer then …
      • 2012-05-22 14322, 2012

      • hawke_1
        http://musicbrainz.org/work/64e7a2e2-dc44-3488-93… shows a huge list of “by Johan Strauss I”
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      • hawke_1
        which is not helpful
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      • xplt
        hawke_1: show me some "correct" example in the DB, please
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      • hawke_1
        xplt: I don’t know that there are any yet, this is a relatively recent change
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      • hawke_1
        (2 weeks old)
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      • hawke_1
        http://musicbrainz.org/work/ee328c58-9d3f-3ffd-a6… will be soonish, once open edits pass
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      • hawke_1
        I’m working on converting Holst
      • 2012-05-22 14305, 2012

      • xplt
        what?! o_O And now a huge pile of recordings in the DB is invalid?.. Oh, c'mon...
      • 2012-05-22 14325, 2012

      • hawke_1
        “invalid” is too strong a word
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      • navap
        Who has a riddiculous amount of URL relationships?
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      • CatCat
        i had an idea yesterday
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      • CatCat
        about tracklists, recordings and works
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      • CatCat
        how the tracklist shoudl show "who's on the cover", the recording that "who is recording it" (eg actualy band, singer, orcestra, and work be "who actually created it")
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      • CatCat
        and have the release be able to show all these
      • 2012-05-22 14339, 2012

      • hawke_1
        yep.
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      • hawke_1
        That sounds like what we want/need.
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      • CatCat
        and how things lie k"the smurfs" aren't real artists and shouldnt be set as real artist, but it's on the cover so, ok on the cover. while i'ts doubthful that we have bach as a real performer of the recording, but he's credited on the release
      • 2012-05-22 14336, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Yep.
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      • CatCat
        that it's dificult to forche all the differnt models of creation int oout simplistic "work rec, track" model
      • 2012-05-22 14340, 2012

      • CatCat
        for example someone recordign a version of beewtovens sympthony 5 isn't quite the same as someonemakign a cover of "tainted love" /(altoguht teoretically thry are both recordign something that the original guy wrote)
      • 2012-05-22 14316, 2012

      • CatCat
        in idea one they are makign a cover of the "work", while in optino 2 they are makign a recordign of.. wel lan recording,
      • 2012-05-22 14340, 2012

      • CatCat
        they heard this song going "oh that's cool, let's maek a cover of that"
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      • Freso
        Tykling: Ping?
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      • SultS
        darn http://s3.us.archive.org is down and I can’t upload cover art
      • 2012-05-22 14328, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok: ^
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      • ruaok
        k
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      • Freso
        Anyone having an itch to vote on some merge edits?
      • 2012-05-22 14358, 2012

      • CatCat
        Freso: hei hei
      • 2012-05-22 14309, 2012

      • Freso
        Hey Cat :)
      • 2012-05-22 14329, 2012

      • CatCat
        jeg må gjæren vote p ånoge af dinemerger
      • 2012-05-22 14334, 2012

      • CatCat
        gjærne*
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      • CatCat
        jeg vet ikke om det hvar riktig dansk, probably ikke
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      • Freso
        CatCat: Det var det ikke. :p Men: http://musicbrainz.org/user/Freso/edits/open
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      • Freso
        "Jeg vil gerne stemme(/vote) på nogle af dine merges(/sammenfletninger)."
      • 2012-05-22 14343, 2012

      • CatCat
        hvorfor har de samme sang to ganer på samme album men med forskjellig navn? o_O
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      • Freso
        CatCat: Det er et mellemspil - ikke et helt nummer.
      • 2012-05-22 14315, 2012

      • CatCat
        what is mellemspil??
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      • Freso
        Interlude
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      • CatCat
        hmm ja vel
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      • CatCat kunne også lide nogle stemmer http://musicbrainz.org/user/CatCat/edits/open
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      • CatCat
        lige?
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      • ruaok
        SultS: can you upload again?
      • 2012-05-22 14338, 2012

      • ruaok
        they had a problem that was resolved.
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      • Freso
        "Null Root" would be an awesome name...
      • 2012-05-22 14320, 2012

      • Freso
        Aren't "retired" MBIDs from merges stored as redirects to the new MBIDs somehow/where?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        Freso: yes, they're stored as redirects.
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      • Freso
        Is there any way to get this without querying the db directly?
      • 2012-05-22 14348, 2012

      • Freso
        (querying the db -> downloading the database and running SQL queries against it)
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      • SultS
        ruaok: yes, upload works now :)
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      • Freso
        kepstin-laptop: ^
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      • kepstin-laptop
        Freso: if you have an old mbid, just do a webservice query using it. The response will include the new mbid.
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      • Freso
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      • ruaok
        anyone having difficultiies uploading coverart?
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      • SultS
        [21:02:50] <SultS> ruaok: yes, upload works now :)
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      • ruaok
        ok, great.
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      • Freso
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      • kepstin-laptop
        presumably the coverartarchive.org database handles merges a bit nicer, thanks to being heavily integrated with the musicbrainz.org site.
      • 2012-05-22 14318, 2012

      • Freso
        kepstin-laptop: Cover art's only cover art though.
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      • paddysteed
        Hi, I am trying to add a release, but it says that track 9 is missing when it is not. If i press 'reset track number' it skips track 9
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      • reosarevok
        meh
      • 2012-05-22 14310, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Something went wrong I guess
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      • reosarevok
        You should be able to press the up arrow from track 10 onwards until it makes sense again
      • 2012-05-22 14337, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (move each track up once)
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      • CatCat wonders if freso was thinkin of a certai nedit whne he said [19:39] Freso "Null Root" would be an awesome name...
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      • paddysteed
        reosarevok, track 9 still missing
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      • reosarevok
        huh
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      • reosarevok
        Press reset again
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      • paddysteed
        now the order is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,11
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      • reosarevok
        What happens if you press the up arrow by 10?
      • 2012-05-22 14347, 2012

      • paddysteed
        changes too 9
      • 2012-05-22 14349, 2012

      • paddysteed
        ill submit
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      • reosarevok
        Try that
      • 2012-05-22 14306, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (move 11 too or it will say there's no 10 :) )
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      • paddysteed
        yay it works
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      • reosarevok
        :)
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      • Freso
        CatCat: I was. :)
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      • CatCat
        freso: lol :D
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      • noobie
        ping pankkake
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      • pankkake
        yes?
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      • noobie
        what's up man ? you are ok??
      • 2012-05-22 14337, 2012

      • noobie
        i was concerned because i am not getting email notifications about no votes anymore :p
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      • pankkake
        I'm late on my subscriptions