15:24 PM
ocharles
I have to port the database access layer to something else that actually tends to build
15:25 PM
hawke_1
I’m not particularly missing it, just reading the topic daily … :-)
15:26 PM
ocharles
heh
15:26 PM
we will need it soon, we need to get scheduling again
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kepstin-laptop
huh, discogs actually has artist id numbers?
15:33 PM
ah, they look like they're just database row numbers
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tri_marianaaf
15:43 PM
do I go with "Primitive Girl" only? (it's what's written on the cover)
15:44 PM
or do I include all tracks in the name? Primitive Girl / The Twist & Roll Over Beethoven
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xplt
tri_marianaaf: is it digital-only release?
15:48 PM
reosarevok
I'd go with Primitive Girl only myself, don't know if others would too :)
15:51 PM
tri_marianaaf
thansk ;)
15:51 PM
thanks
15:53 PM
xplt
15:54 PM
hawke_1
xplt: There’s a userscript which helps with that a lot…
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15:56 PM
xplt
hawke_1: I'll try it! Thanks!
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jesus2099
16:00 PM
sorry hawke_1 I didn’t refresh the chat logs ;)
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xplt
jesus2099: :)
16:00 PM
hawke_1
jesus2099: All good, lol
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xplt
16:11 PM
noobie
End of metadata did not start audio
16:12 PM
will this be fixed when i save it with picard ?
16:12 PM
hawke_1
xplt: Of course, the recordings should be credited to the performer…
16:13 PM
xplt: (not the tracklist, necessarily though)
16:13 PM
xplt
hawke_1: huh?
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hawke_1
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noobie
hm there are some releases on amazon and jpc which claim johann strauss II as artist
16:16 PM
16:17 PM
xplt
16:18 PM
noobie
well it was composed by js I but maybe performed at a later time by his son ?
16:18 PM
noobie is not not into classical though
16:18 PM
xplt
hawke_1: why? I always thought, that editor should to attach performers through relationships, no?
16:18 PM
hawke_1
xplt: They should do that too.
16:19 PM
xplt: But the reason is that if recordings are credited to composer then …
16:19 PM
16:19 PM
which is not helpful
16:20 PM
xplt
hawke_1: show me some "correct" example in the DB, please
16:20 PM
hawke_1
xplt: I don’t know that there are any yet, this is a relatively recent change
16:21 PM
(2 weeks old)
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16:21 PM
I’m working on converting Holst
16:22 PM
xplt
what?! o_O And now a huge pile of recordings in the DB is invalid?.. Oh, c'mon...
16:22 PM
hawke_1
“invalid” is too strong a word
16:22 PM
navap
Who has a riddiculous amount of URL relationships?
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16:49 PM
CatCat
i had an idea yesterday
16:49 PM
about tracklists, recordings and works
16:49 PM
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how the tracklist shoudl show "who's on the cover", the recording that "who is recording it" (eg actualy band, singer, orcestra, and work be "who actually created it")
16:50 PM
and have the release be able to show all these
16:50 PM
hawke_1
yep.
16:50 PM
That sounds like what we want/need.
16:51 PM
CatCat
and how things lie k"the smurfs" aren't real artists and shouldnt be set as real artist, but it's on the cover so, ok on the cover. while i'ts doubthful that we have bach as a real performer of the recording, but he's credited on the release
16:51 PM
hawke_1
Yep.
16:51 PM
CatCat
that it's dificult to forche all the differnt models of creation int oout simplistic "work rec, track" model
16:52 PM
for example someone recordign a version of beewtovens sympthony 5 isn't quite the same as someonemakign a cover of "tainted love" /(altoguht teoretically thry are both recordign something that the original guy wrote)
16:53 PM
in idea one they are makign a cover of the "work", while in optino 2 they are makign a recordign of.. wel lan recording,
16:53 PM
they heard this song going "oh that's cool, let's maek a cover of that"
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Freso
Tykling: Ping?
17:06 PM
SultS
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ocharles
ruaok: ^
17:06 PM
ruaok
k
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Freso
Anyone having an itch to vote on some merge edits?
17:13 PM
CatCat
Freso: hei hei
17:14 PM
Freso
Hey Cat :)
17:14 PM
CatCat
jeg må gjæren vote p ånoge af dinemerger
17:14 PM
gjærne*
17:14 PM
jeg vet ikke om det hvar riktig dansk, probably ikke
17:16 PM
Freso
17:17 PM
"Jeg vil gerne stemme(/vote) på nogle af dine merges(/sammenfletninger)."
17:17 PM
CatCat
hvorfor har de samme sang to ganer på samme album men med forskjellig navn? o_O
17:17 PM
Freso
CatCat: Det er et mellemspil - ikke et helt nummer.
17:18 PM
CatCat
what is mellemspil??
17:18 PM
Freso
Interlude
17:18 PM
CatCat
hmm ja vel
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CatCat kunne også lide nogle stemmer http://musicbrainz.org/user/CatCat/edits/open
17:19 PM
lige?
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ruaok
SultS: can you upload again?
17:39 PM
they had a problem that was resolved.
17:40 PM
Freso
"Null Root" would be an awesome name...
17:51 PM
Aren't "retired" MBIDs from merges stored as redirects to the new MBIDs somehow/where?
17:53 PM
kepstin-laptop
Freso: yes, they're stored as redirects.
17:58 PM
Freso
Is there any way to get this without querying the db directly?
17:58 PM
(querying the db -> downloading the database and running SQL queries against it)
18:02 PM
SultS
ruaok: yes, upload works now :)
18:04 PM
Freso
kepstin-laptop: ^
18:05 PM
kepstin-laptop
Freso: if you have an old mbid, just do a webservice query using it. The response will include the new mbid.
18:08 PM
Freso
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ruaok
anyone having difficultiies uploading coverart?
18:11 PM
SultS
[21:02:50] <SultS> ruaok: yes, upload works now :)
18:11 PM
ruaok
ok, great.
18:15 PM
Freso
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kepstin-laptop
18:20 PM
Freso
kepstin-laptop: Cover art's only cover art though.
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paddysteed
Hi, I am trying to add a release, but it says that track 9 is missing when it is not. If i press 'reset track number' it skips track 9
18:23 PM
reosarevok
meh
18:23 PM
Something went wrong I guess
18:23 PM
You should be able to press the up arrow from track 10 onwards until it makes sense again
18:23 PM
(move each track up once)
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CatCat wonders if freso was thinkin of a certai nedit whne he said [19:39] Freso "Null Root" would be an awesome name...
18:26 PM
paddysteed
reosarevok, track 9 still missing
18:26 PM
reosarevok
huh
18:27 PM
Press reset again
18:27 PM
paddysteed
now the order is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,11
18:27 PM
reosarevok
What happens if you press the up arrow by 10?
18:27 PM
paddysteed
changes too 9
18:27 PM
ill submit
18:27 PM
reosarevok
Try that
18:28 PM
(move 11 too or it will say there's no 10 :) )
18:28 PM
paddysteed
yay it works
18:28 PM
reosarevok
:)
18:35 PM
Freso
CatCat: I was. :)
18:57 PM
CatCat
freso: lol :D
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noobie
ping pankkake
19:19 PM
pankkake
yes?
19:19 PM
noobie
what's up man ? you are ok??
19:19 PM
i was concerned because i am not getting email notifications about no votes anymore :p
19:19 PM
pankkake
I'm late on my subscriptions
