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      • reosarevok
        The issue is that the setting is there to differentiate ended relationships from continuing ones
      • 2012-06-01 15310, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But that just doesn't apply to recordings
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      • reosarevok
        Which all were performed already
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      • reosarevok
        so having " - ????" says nothing, really
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      • reosarevok
        I definitely wasn't expecting those relationships to even *have* an "ended" box
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      • reosarevok
        When I asked for the thing
      • 2012-06-01 15348, 2012

      • bitmap
        right, I don't think it should even be enabled for recording relationships. I figured it should be set anyway in case the user somehow enters no end date though
      • 2012-06-01 15304, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • reosarevok
        I could see the point of setting it *if* a start date is being set
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      • hawke_1
        ehh… I see the use in it. You might know when an artist started working on a recording but not when they finished
      • 2012-06-01 15322, 2012

      • reosarevok
        "<reosarevok> I could see the point of setting it *if* a start date is being set"
      • 2012-06-01 15357, 2012

      • reosarevok
        What is silly is to display " - ????"
      • 2012-06-01 15358, 2012

      • hawke_1
        yeah, I started typing before you said that. :-p
      • 2012-06-01 15313, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Since, well, *all* recordings are either dated, or " - ????"
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      • hawke_1
        it displays “ - ????” if there is no date set at all?
      • 2012-06-01 15300, 2012

      • bitmap
        I'm not sure what the script is doing wrong then, it seems like it should always be set for recordings
      • 2012-06-01 15311, 2012

      • reosarevok
        hawke_1: yes
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      • reosarevok
        bitmap: maybe, yeah, we should just not display it
      • 2012-06-01 15354, 2012

      • bitmap
        yeah, I agree with that
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • reosarevok
        Are all recording and work relationships always-ended?
      • 2012-06-01 15353, 2012

      • bitmap
        if they're in the db I would think so
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      • reosarevok
        No, I don't mean "recording of"
      • 2012-06-01 15353, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I mean if there's any relationship at all for them that can be open
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      • reosarevok
        Publishing?
      • 2012-06-01 15302, 2012

      • reosarevok
        dunno
      • 2012-06-01 15336, 2012

      • reosarevok
        The URL ones, I guess
      • 2012-06-01 15339, 2012

      • hawke_1
        URL relationshi…yeah
      • 2012-06-01 15348, 2012

      • bitmap
        I always entered the publishing date as the date it was published, not when the copyright expires or however it works
      • 2012-06-01 15350, 2012

      • hawke_1
        You’re taking the words out of my mouth :-p
      • 2012-06-01 15316, 2012

      • hawke_1
        The copyright never expires :-/
      • 2012-06-01 15308, 2012

      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Feel free to comment with suggestions or, well, comments
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      • v6lur
        ianmcorvidae, other i18n people: stuff like "Ndebele, South" and "Sami, Northern" is really awkward to translate
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      • v6lur
        (in the languages' domain)
      • 2012-06-01 15357, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        v6lur: there are already translations existing from other places for the country/locales lists
      • 2012-06-01 15305, 2012

      • v6lur
        i know
      • 2012-06-01 15312, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        it would make sense to look at them for reference, if not copying them outright...
      • 2012-06-01 15314, 2012

      • v6lur
        just saying these are weird
      • 2012-06-01 15337, 2012

      • v6lur
        weird, as opposed to "South Ndebele" and "Northern Sami"
      • 2012-06-01 15306, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        they do that just so that everything will sort together in an alphabetical list
      • 2012-06-01 15334, 2012

      • v6lur
        again, i know :P
      • 2012-06-01 15347, 2012

      • v6lur
        it's weird to translate nevertheless
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      • v6lur
        especially since both of these examples would be one word in estonian :P
      • 2012-06-01 15349, 2012

      • v6lur
        geez, there's a language called Geez
      • 2012-06-01 15312, 2012

      • reosarevok
        lol
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      • hawke_1
        Interesting, one of the soundtracks in the game music bundle was already tagged with MB information…
      • 2012-06-01 15321, 2012

      • reosarevok
        lol
      • 2012-06-01 15353, 2012

      • hawke_1
        I approve. :-D
      • 2012-06-01 15303, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Indeed
      • 2012-06-01 15311, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Mail the artist and congratulate him
      • 2012-06-01 15324, 2012

      • hawke_1
        lol
      • 2012-06-01 15351, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        lol
      • 2012-06-01 15355, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        awesom
      • 2012-06-01 15357, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        e
      • 2012-06-01 15331, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        huh, apparently the humble bundle has already made over 2 million dollars in sales.
      • 2012-06-01 15343, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-06-01 15352, 2012

      • reosarevok
        How much of that was Notch?
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      • kepstin-work
        he's only done $3000
      • 2012-06-01 15318, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        er, sorry: $3000.01
      • 2012-06-01 15323, 2012

      • reosarevok
        oh
      • 2012-06-01 15326, 2012

      • reosarevok
        wow, then
      • 2012-06-01 15334, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (also, "only" :) )
      • 2012-06-01 15355, 2012

      • warp
        hawke_1: cool, which one?
      • 2012-06-01 15354, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        so, yeah, that's over 2 million dollars in less than 2 days... in indie game sales.
      • 2012-06-01 15352, 2012

      • warp
        hawke_1: an arbitrary USB soundcard will likely sound better than any built-in soundcard because the built-in soundcard will get a lot of interference from the other components inside the case.
      • 2012-06-01 15304, 2012

      • hawke_1
        warp: ilomilo
      • 2012-06-01 15317, 2012

      • warp
        ilomilo \o/
      • 2012-06-01 15344, 2012

      • hawke_1
        warp: Good point on the USB soundcard.
      • 2012-06-01 15313, 2012

      • kepstin-work has a couple of arbitrary usb soundcards hanging around, and agrees with that statement - particularly in laptops.
      • 2012-06-01 15338, 2012

      • hawke_1
        Well, yeah. laptop sound hardware is total shit
      • 2012-06-01 15359, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        …and then as a study in contrast, there’s the shit tagging for the frozen synapse soundtrack.
      • 2012-06-01 15359, 2012

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      • hawke_1
        at least in the flac
      • 2012-06-01 15348, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        I have a bunch of edits pending on the "Mubla Evol Ution" album to clean it up, I'd appreciate it if you take a look at it
      • 2012-06-01 15350, 2012

      • SultS
        is there a way to read a barcode without numbers (to get the numbers)?
      • 2012-06-01 15317, 2012

      • reosarevok
        A smartphone
      • 2012-06-01 15319, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Maybe
      • 2012-06-01 15322, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Do you have an image?
      • 2012-06-01 15325, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I can try to scan it
      • 2012-06-01 15332, 2012

      • SultS
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      • SultS
        there are actually at least a couple of these
      • 2012-06-01 15354, 2012

      • SultS
        releases
      • 2012-06-01 15319, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        I'm sure there are some programs around to do it... It's not like reading UPC/EAN barcodes is hard.
      • 2012-06-01 15301, 2012

      • reosarevok
        5039060021491
      • 2012-06-01 15306, 2012

      • SultS
        yeah, I tried to search a little bit, but I guess I gotta dig around some more
      • 2012-06-01 15308, 2012

      • SultS
        thanks, reosarevok :)
      • 2012-06-01 15325, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        huh, apparently google is planning to buy the '.lol' and '.youtube' top level domains
      • 2012-06-01 15345, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        and also '.docs', which seems absurdly general
      • 2012-06-01 15344, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        you don't buy a TLD
      • 2012-06-01 15350, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        you become a registrar for a TLD
      • 2012-06-01 15357, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        and yes, they DO have to sell domains to other individuals
      • 2012-06-01 15317, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        they will of course reserve premium SLDs, google.docs and what not.
      • 2012-06-01 15335, 2012

      • kepstin-work presumes they will also set up the bare tlds to go to their own properties.
      • 2012-06-01 15310, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        i.e. if you just put 'docs' (or in older browsers, you might need to do 'docs.') in your url bar, you get google docs.
      • 2012-06-01 15325, 2012

      • reosarevok
        " title tab
      • 2012-06-01 15330, 2012

      • reosarevok
        *tab title
      • 2012-06-01 15345, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Shouldn't it be either "similar relases" or "release duplication" or something?
      • 2012-06-01 15358, 2012

      • CatCat
        seriously, a .lol tld?
      • 2012-06-01 15359, 2012

      • reosarevok
        "release duplicates" makes it sound as something you should avoid, not reuse
      • 2012-06-01 15306, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        maybe just "Possible duplicates"
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      • CatCat
        when are we getting .omg or .tld?
      • 2012-06-01 15323, 2012

      • CatCat
        .docs?
      • 2012-06-01 15330, 2012

      • CatCat
        why not .fail or .lmao
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      • kepstin-work
        CatCat: when someone puts up the money for a proposal, and can back a company to run the tld for at least 3 years
      • 2012-06-01 15350, 2012

      • CatCat
        it's crazy-go-nuts
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      • kepstin-work
        I wouldn't be surprised if most of those are being proposed by someone - the proposals will be made public shortly.
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      • CatCat
        what's the limit on characters for tld's?
      • 2012-06-01 15338, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        no particular limit
      • 2012-06-01 15348, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        but most people wouldn't want long ones
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      • CatCat
        so http://something.goeshere is completely possible? theoretically atleast
      • 2012-06-01 15328, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        like, you're probably going to see most big brands registering their trademarks - like 'google.', 'microsoft.', etc.
      • 2012-06-01 15339, 2012

      • CatCat
        well considerign all the good .com .net .org and even .biz now a days are taken
      • 2012-06-01 15340, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        CatCat: yep, quite possible
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      • bricas
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      • CatCat
        it was probably a matter of time before more "tld last names" happened
      • 2012-06-01 15306, 2012

      • CatCat
        it's like phone numbers and addign more digits so ther ewill be more "adresses"
      • 2012-06-01 15313, 2012

      • CatCat
        sincve more and more peopel sue the 'net
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      • kepstin-work
        CatCat: it's been planned for quite a while now - they're just getting to the point where the proposals for new ones are being examined
      • 2012-06-01 15329, 2012

      • CatCat
        huh
      • 2012-06-01 15333, 2012

      • CatCat
        i was unaware
      • 2012-06-01 15337, 2012

      • CatCat
        well it'so k i guess
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      • CatCat
        nut i bet it will cost $$
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      • CatCat
        so no chance of me getting a zaphodbeeblebrox.lol
      • 2012-06-01 15321, 2012

      • CatCat
        heh
      • 2012-06-01 15326, 2012

      • CatCat
        what about seriously.lol
      • 2012-06-01 15337, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        hmm, I suspect the .lol ones will be fairly reasonably priced, like .com
      • 2012-06-01 15351, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        but there will be a lot of people snapping up choice domains pretty quickly
      • 2012-06-01 15355, 2012

      • CatCat
        there was a short time the abiltiy to have someæøå.no for .no top domains, but that.. is kinda bunk now
      • 2012-06-01 15327, 2012

      • CatCat
        oh my god we totally need to register mb.lol
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      • CatCat
        any likn with info on this?
      • 2012-06-01 15308, 2012

      • CatCat
        i mean the new proposals? where are yo ugettign this from
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      • reosarevok
        CatCat: info, it won't be free
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      • reosarevok
        So I doubt we should spend money on that :p
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      • kepstin-work
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      • CatCat
        erh?
      • 2012-06-01 15340, 2012

      • CatCat
        info it wont be free? i said mb.lol not mb.info :P
      • 2012-06-01 15352, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I didn't want to put another :
      • 2012-06-01 15358, 2012

      • reosarevok
        info: it won't be free
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      • reosarevok
        Well, I assume it won't
      • 2012-06-01 15305, 2012

      • kepstin-work
        e.g. I suspect that (probably several groups) will propose a 'music.' domain