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      • bitmap
        if you have multiple copies of the same album like me, you can edit the track metadata beforehand so that you don't have to edit file metadata multiple times :)
      • Freso
        Alright, I'm going for "item" -> "element".
      • v6lur
        ah, reasonable then
      • Freso
        Why doesn't http://musicbrainz.org/artist/67952cb7-0869-45d... have the "TAGGER" link? D:
      • derwin
        "This indicates that a release group is a cover of another release group."
      • v6lur
        might need to rethink my translation, then
      • derwin
        a release group is a cover of another release group? isn't that the wrong entity?
      • Freso
        "Tag"... now, is that the verb or the noun...
      • derwin
        like, a release group is an album..
      • reosarevok
        Depends on who you ask
      • derwin
        no?
      • a cover version is recording level?
      • reosarevok
        Some people think we should use that for linking, say, an album like The Dark Side of the Moog
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      • derwin
        sure, or dub side of the moon
      • reosarevok
        As in, that's a conceptual "album cover"
      • or whatever
      • derwin
        but then it'd be mostly used for recordings, and occasionally for release grouops?
      • why doesn't page mention recording? weird?
      • that's the common case?
      • reosarevok
        Because it's not a recording-recording use
      • But an attribute of "recording is a (cover) recording of work"
      • Freso
        derwin: If the release itself, on the highest level (ie. release group level), is a cover of another release, then I think it's fine.
      • derwin
        sure, I agree with freso
      • ah, I see, it's recording<>work
      • v6lur
        Freso: you can look at the string details to see its context
      • SultS
        am I missing something or %comment% can’t be multiple rows anymore?
      • derwin
        (but then why doesn't the page specify anything about work attributes?)
      • bitmap
        SultS: I think there's a case-sensitivity, could you report a ticket?
      • Freso
        v6lur: "Occurrences: picard/ui/metadatabox.py:90" doesn't help much. Also, unless we're using gettext's context feature, it's bound to end up as the other somewhere.
      • reosarevok
        derwin, huh?
      • "
      • SultS
        bitmap, as soon as I know what to actually report
      • bitmap
        just the issue you see and how to reproduce it :)
      • bitmap isn't sure either
      • v6lur
        Freso: should be noun
      • SultS
        bitmap: alright :)
      • v6lur
        yes, a noun
      • that's the new metadata viewer, there are three columns, and their headers are "Tag", "Original Value", "New Value"
      • SultS
        bitmap: actually that might have been an error on my part (and unrelated to the case-sensitive thing)
      • Freso
        v6lur: Right. "Tag"'s a bothersome word though. It can both be a noun and a verb - and as a verb, it can both "to tag" and the command/root "tag".
      • v6lur
        yea, english has a lot of such words :/
      • at times it seems like basically anything can be a verb in english :P
      • to book, file, host, phone, ...
      • Clint
        verb those nouns
      • v6lur
        indeed
      • ianmcorvidae
        mm, verbification
      • kepstin
        verbificate?
      • Clint
        verbify or verbalize, but using "verb" as a verb maintains the proper level of irony
      • ianmcorvidae
        quick, to the verbinator!
      • time to verbliterate some language!
      • ianmcorvidae is just amused at using 'verb' with random endings now
      • reosarevok
        What a verbiation that is
      • noobie
        hurenklump
      • :d
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      • Digweed
        Looking at this release, the feat. are still in the title instead of the artist field; http://musicbrainz.org/release/e9a5f123-447f-44...
      • That should be changed right? Since I do see someone has changed this when viewing the edit history.
      • Not approved yet or something I guess?
      • Freso
        Transifex needs a way to clear translations.
      • Or... does anyone know how to clear translations on Transifex?
      • v6lur
        what do you mean, clear?
      • noobie
        Digweed:
      • looks like that guy just updated the recordings
      • Digweed
        Ow
      • noobie
        but not the release titles
      • Digweed
        I guess I should change them then.
      • noobie
        i guess,
      • master reosarevok?
      • :p
      • Digweed
        :)
      • reosarevok
        :p
      • That sounds about right
      • Freso
        v6lur: Like, not have a translation for a giving string. Currently, if you select a textfielf, enten something in it, and delete it again, it seems as if Transifex will store that translation anyway. And it's very rare that the string "" is a good translation for anything...
      • reosarevok
        They might have edited another of the 5 versions
      • Digweed
        Ok, I guess I should get to it then :P
      • v6lur
        hm, i haven't had the need to delete strings...
      • maybe there's *not supposed to be* a way for doing that?
      • ianmcorvidae
        1I mean, you could use the "copy source string to destination" button
      • that'd functionally be no translation :P
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      • Freso
        v6lur: As I said to being with, Transifex *needs* a way to clear translations. I didn't say it was a bug that it didn't have one (and as such, implying that it was meant to be able to do that, but having a bug making it not work).
      • ianmcorvidae: That'd make the string not show up in untranslated strings as well though.
      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, yeah
      • I feel like I've successfully removed things before, but not sure how
      • ianmcorvidae pokes around
      • reosarevok
        Blanking the string *tends* to work, except when it doesn't
      • I think
      • Because transifex is moody
      • v6lur
        Freso: ah, sorry, i misunderstood
      • anyway, you could mark it as "reviewed" -- that way you'd at least find it later, even if it's completely opposite of the intended use of the "reviewed" checkbox :P
      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, just clearing it seems to work
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      • Digweed
      • Should be good.
      • Freso
        luks: If I asked you to, could you push the latest Danish translation to git?
      • If you would, hold on a sec. :p
      • Is "label" used for anything in Picard other than record labels?
      • Whee. More than 90% translated!
      • brianfreud
        brewster, in case you see this somehow, w/r/t the LMA, often you guys have recording lineage info in the plaintext. There's no dedicated field for it at MB, but that'd be awsome to have in annotations.
      • Freso
        brianfreud: E-mail him?
      • brianfreud
        yeah; figured maybe an alt nick, or one of the engineers, might still be in here :)
      • Freso
        Doesn't look like it though.
      • brianfreud
        speaking of translations, my text strings list isn't 100% yet, since the script isn't totally done, but if anyone is interested in translating a small amount, I'm welcoming any submissions :)
      • Freso
        brianfreud: ?
      • brianfreud
        The CAA batch editor I've been working on
      • here's a couple screenshots of the current build: http://i48.tinypic.com/a10506.png http://i46.tinypic.com/rvabuq.png
      • kepstin
        looks pretty fancy
      • brianfreud
        :)
      • kepstin never uses the artist release list page, tho
      • This is turning out to be the nicest looking and interacting thing I think I've ever written.
      • kepstin
        any chance you could just replace the existing per-release cover art editor with that?
      • brianfreud
        That's ok; it works the same on the artist page (RG view), the artist releases page, the label page, and the page for a single RG
      • kepstin wants it on http://musicbrainz.org/release/mbid/cover-art :)
      • kepstin, I'm leaving the CAA editing tab for a single release alone for the moment; it'd be theoretically easy to add this support to that tab as well, but first I want to get it 100% on those other 4 places first.
      • musicbrainz.org/release/mbid/cover-art will come in version 1.1, maybe :)
      • reosarevok
        "
      • Shouldn't it be "Release" or something?
      • bitmap
        I think I remember luks saying he preferred "album" because it's what media players use
      • I'm sure it's inconsistently used though
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      • Freso
        luks: What's the requirement for a language to be un-commented-out in UI_LANGUAGES?
      • reosarevok
        What does "(different across %d item)" mean exactly?
      • noobie
        different across 10 items
      • :d
      • bitmap
        reosarevok: it means the values for that tag are not all the same, based one whatever's selected
      • noobie
        it means if you selected more than one item and the value is different in each of it
      • reosarevok
        Ok :)
      • So does it print the number of items that have a *different* value?
      • noobie
        %d is getting replaced by the number of selected items i guess
      • reosarevok
        Or does it include the ones which have the same as selected as long as they're not all the same
      • noobie
        eg. if you select a release with 10 tracks it becomes 10..
      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • bitmap
        it's just the number of selected items
      • reosarevok
        Ok, will do
      • noobie
        or well,
      • reosarevok is still confused by this tagdiff thing :)
      • what are you doing anyway? translating picard ?
      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • A few new lines that appeared
      • There, 100% again
      • noobie
        kewl
      • :)
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      • Freso
        Wait, hold on. ianmcorvidae - you're an Arch user too?
      • ianmcorvidae
        8yup
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