#musicbrainz

musicbrainz states that it's been released october 23rd in GB

i see

wiki is probably refering to the us release date

yeah

ok... i am trying to figure out programatically which one is the most popular release

By what measure?

well, it's quite subjective

Well, you could choose the one from the artist country, but for majors, countries barely matter...

2 criterions are release date and country

i think that an album released in the artist's country has a good chance of being the most popular if it's release day is the oldest of all releases

roosoft: quite often Japanese versions are released even earlier and contain bonus tracks… but it doesn’t seem to be the case with this Smashing Pumpkins album

in this case, no albums fits so my algo ouputs nothing

How are you defining "most popular"?

most likely to be the one someone wants for a search result? the one which someone is most likely to possess?

i want to display artists tracks without regards about releases... but still link them to release groups

to figure out which tracks comes from which release group, i have to go through releases

in fact, i rely on last.fm scrobbling

I would say “whichever release group has the most releases where that track appears” if that makes sense.

it may be another way to sort it out...

i've seen albums re-released with hundreds of tracks

congratulations for your database by the way... it's awesome :D

the main reason why i am doing this is because i do not think physical media have much future

physical media might not, but the concept of an album will, imo.

i expect in the future that albums may have only one initial release regardless media or country

yup

nah, I still expect occasional remastered releases or versions with different bonus tracks

i'm trying to apply that principle to albums released in the past as well.. that's my challenge

i don't care about remasters

well, my website don't

i want to list the number of times a song has been played by one of my users, regardless which edition

Musicbrainz does, ostensibly. :-)

of course

wth?

I'm not entirely sure that my file system is going to like that name...

hah

I guess you could trim it in a taggerscript or something :P

Anoia: Picard limits the filename to 255 characters

ahh, lucky

on *nix it should really limit it to 255 per path-part instead

but eh

is it a TEXT in the database?

basically, it's written VARCHAR in createtables, but

unbounded, though, so

Good news, everyone: I just discovered http://www.myxer.com/ embeds the UPC and ISRCs of digital releases into the meta section of their web pages.

huh

I wonder if we have a wiki page for "data sources" or such

hmm, maybe I should keep one..

jacobbret what about in the tags?

derwin: No idea, I just stumbled onto their website via Google

is there any practical/sensible way to link/import discogs and musicbrainz?

for example an album on discogs that isn;t on MB

Yes

there's a userscript

What's your browser?

there's also an AR link

i'm using IE10

Dunno if IE works with userscripts at all

Does it have a greasemonkey addon?

has done for a while

Well, yeah

Haven't used it for a longer while than that

either way i'm a developer nd can hack something to get it to work :)

Anoia: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/36376

That works in Firefox and Opera at least, and in Chrome with some changes

No idea what it would need to work on IE

are the licences compatable?

Well, factual data is not copyrighted in the US where discogs is based, so it must be

But I think it is anyway

(like, "officially")

So yeah, data is PD

And this right here is why we need “as on cover”: http://musicbrainz.org/release/30a7ec16-454b-43...

Looks OK at first glance, doesn’t it?

"ok"

But guess what: Several tracks have completely wrong titles because someone guessed the specific selection incorrectly.

Of course, the cover has it right…

or at least, less wrong

Specifically, disc 1 - tracks 15, 19, and 23 (at least; that’s as far as I’ve gotten)

seems to be wrong in discogs too

ah no

yeah, I sometimes correct discogs

so it will be correct when I import to mb

I blame brianfreud since he added it. But that’s not really fair since it’s pre-NGS and who knows how good those references were 5 years ago.

bit of a “ ;-) ” on that if that wasn’t clear.

ok, need water.

I might return in a few. or not. :)

Google query: site:http://www.media.wmg-is.com/media/portal/m... * inurl:xls --might be useful to some of you (spreadsheets of release title+catalogue number+barcode+format

Also, you can find PDF press releases

e.g. via barcode: site:http://www.media.wmg-is.com/media/portal/m... * inurl:016861793128.pdf

Is there anyway to stamp in album art I've found on my own through Picard?

rubin110: Currently, I don't think so, though it's being worked on.

Actually, there is

upload it to the CAA? :P

Yeah, but that still needs that plugin to work

Oh, reosarevok, does it let you drag artwork??

jacobbrett: no, it lets you use CAA artwork

If you have it, why wouldn't you upload it? :)

Ah, I wasn't even sure that was working...

(well, because the CAA is down like HALF THE TIME)

reosarevok: That's a good point, except I don't know if this is actually the cover art or not.

(but apart from that :p)

rubin110: oh :)

Hmm, maybe that was why lol

I'm afraid that's all we have at the moment...

It's accurate for about 75% of my library.

I mean, how imporper would it be to add a comment simply saying "Found through a Google Search" or "Found on Amazon"?

Well, if you have a barcode you can search for it on Amazon and it will often give a release, usually with a cover

(which might need some cropping or something because they put white edge crap around some of them)

Oh wow, that worked rather well.

(or well, you could just link the ASIN :) )

Picard doesn't seem to grab the art for that one.

:D

hm, it should get it via the ASIN

with the coverart plugin installed

CatCat: lol

dunno why though

iTunes has 600x600 artwork, less compression, too

rubin110: oh, digital media

Yeah, some legal issue or some issue with Amazon API or both

Just get the cover from there or iTunes and upload it then

(iTunes covers tend to be good, just right-click, open in new tab, change 170x170 in the url for 600x600)

Ah ok.

Rad.