The list that is there now on Picard 1.0 looks like it was stuck in there at the last minute. There doesn't look like there is any border on it separating the text box from the status bar
2012-06-26 17853, 2012
reosarevok
kyomi: the list that is there now is much more powerful *but* it's less clear, too
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
reosarevok
So yeah, I think the plan for the next version is to have both options as "simple" and "advanced" interfaces
2012-06-26 17814, 2012
kyomi
I like the new drag and drop cover art deal, but the new tag viewing "window" is just awful. I have to scroll around or make the bottom section huge to see everything
2012-06-26 17816, 2012
kyomi
It shows *alot* more info, but I don't need to see it. I first was looking for options to edit the tags that are displayed so that I could see all the info on one "page" without having to scroll
2012-06-26 17842, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah
2012-06-26 17808, 2012
reosarevok
the thing is the people who use Picard while in development *do* use the whole list
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
kyomi
I've noticed the tag lookup seems to be alot slower now too. I either have to wait around 5 minutes for it to find *three* songs or I have to tell it to "Lookup" in the unmatched folder section
2012-06-26 17828, 2012
reosarevok
So nobody seemed to realise it was overkill for normal users :)
2012-06-26 17849, 2012
reosarevok
As I said, plans are to change it in the next version - I think it can't be done now though
2012-06-26 17853, 2012
kyomi
I'm not saying to remove it just because *I* don't use it, I know thats pretty silly. As you suggested, I'm in favor of an option :)
2012-06-26 17803, 2012
reosarevok
hmm, the lookup thing seems weird
2012-06-26 17806, 2012
reosarevok
Are you using scan?
2012-06-26 17810, 2012
kyomi
No
2012-06-26 17814, 2012
kyomi
I haven't enabled it
2012-06-26 17826, 2012
reosarevok
Hmm
2012-06-26 17836, 2012
reosarevok
Then it shouldn't take longer than before...
2012-06-26 17847, 2012
reosarevok
(I use Picard in Windows and haven't noticed any changes)
2012-06-26 17851, 2012
kyomi
It doesn't when *I* tell it to lookup
2012-06-26 17838, 2012
kyomi
But when I drag folders from the far left window to the "sorting window" (the one with the "Unmatched Files" folder), I have it set to automatically look up
2012-06-26 17847, 2012
kyomi
And that is what takes awhile
2012-06-26 17805, 2012
kyomi
It's always been hit or miss for me on how fast it is
2012-06-26 17817, 2012
reosarevok
Hmm
2012-06-26 17820, 2012
reosarevok
No idea
2012-06-26 17841, 2012
reosarevok
Unless it auto-scans with amplifind (which is slow because their servers are dying) it shouldn't matter
2012-06-26 17842, 2012
kyomi
*BUT* It's only on the automatically scan bit
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
kyomi
It should be looking up by PUID because I left the enable scan option disabled
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
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2012-06-26 17826, 2012
kyomi
Ugh... I'm hating this new view. I'm so used to just glancing down at the right section to make sure everything is in order. I keep looking at white space and having to scroll to find it :/
2012-06-26 17851, 2012
kyomi
I'll deal with it until there is an option to change it though.. because that drag and drop cover art thing makes me very happy
2012-06-26 17807, 2012
kyomi
If it doesn't find one, drag and drop... done :)
2012-06-26 17808, 2012
reosarevok
kyomi: PUID is what is slow as hell because the servers are dying :p
2012-06-26 17822, 2012
ianmcorvidae
there's also a patch to reorder the tagdiff thing
2012-06-26 17826, 2012
ianmcorvidae
IIRC
2012-06-26 17831, 2012
kyomi
Ok, what do you recommend I switch it to?
2012-06-26 17839, 2012
ianmcorvidae
acoustid, that's the only other option
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
kyomi
I was under the impression that PUID was a Musicbrainz thing
2012-06-26 17814, 2012
kyomi
Which is why I just told it to use that
2012-06-26 17838, 2012
ianmcorvidae
neither is really run by musicbrainz -- acoustid, however, actually works
2012-06-26 17855, 2012
ianmcorvidae
and it's written by luks, who as you can see hangs out here -- he's a frequent musicbrainz-server contributor and one of the original picard authors
2012-06-26 17809, 2012
kyomi
Is that under the Fingerprinting option? I tried looking in the documentation, but that option wasn't covered
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
ianmcorvidae
PUID was done by a company (now out of business) that musicbrainz had a business agreement with
2012-06-26 17815, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, it's in there
2012-06-26 17842, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I forget if 1.0 shipped with fpcalc (the acoustid fingerprint calculator), but you just need to point it to that
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
kyomi
Yeah, it automatically pointed to fpcalc.exe
2012-06-26 17807, 2012
ianmcorvidae
cool
2012-06-26 17818, 2012
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2012-06-26 17820, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that should be all you need, then, unless you want to submit fingerprints back to acoustid
2012-06-26 17841, 2012
kyomi
That would be helpful, right?
2012-06-26 17841, 2012
pankkake
acoustids are so much better… by the way this reminds me of the switch from the thing we had before PUIDs :p
2012-06-26 17854, 2012
kyomi
pancake :D
2012-06-26 17857, 2012
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2012-06-26 17811, 2012
ianmcorvidae
if you want to do that, go to acoustid.org and log in with your musicbrainz credentials, and you'll get an API key to enter
2012-06-26 17819, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, I hear TRMs were even worse than PUIDs, heh
2012-06-26 17832, 2012
pankkake
ah yes, TRM, I forgot the name
2012-06-26 17833, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I wasn't around when we had TRMs though, so that seems amazing to me
2012-06-26 17840, 2012
ianmcorvidae
given how bad PUIDs are :P
2012-06-26 17843, 2012
kyomi
Oh, I already did that ianmcorvidae. I thought that was required
2012-06-26 17848, 2012
pankkake
and the old tagging client that didn't know what an album was! *nostalgia*
2012-06-26 17849, 2012
kyomi
At least it looked like that in the options
2012-06-26 17859, 2012
ianmcorvidae
kyomi: only for submitting fingerprints -- the options probably aren't very clear, heh
2012-06-26 17805, 2012
ianmcorvidae
just for scanning you don't need it
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
ianmcorvidae
but hey, better to contribute back when you can anyway, right? :)
2012-06-26 17827, 2012
kyomi
Soo.. can I pick your brain about one more undocumented (as of yet) option?
2012-06-26 17835, 2012
kyomi
And, yes :)
2012-06-26 17851, 2012
ianmcorvidae
sure, no guarantees I'll know what it is though :)
2012-06-26 17807, 2012
kyomi
I couldn't organize my music without it... before I was taking entire weekends to get things straight... and now it's like *maybe* and hour :)
"Ignore MBIDs when loading new files" -> I'm not quite sure what this means... but I'm guessing it's for re-tagging
2012-06-26 17804, 2012
pankkake
it seem to submit even my untagged stuff, but I don't know what it becomes after
2012-06-26 17835, 2012
ianmcorvidae
pankkake: it presumably just submits the metadata; it can also find PUIDs if you have them
2012-06-26 17842, 2012
ianmcorvidae
acoustid keeps track of PUIDs too, heh
2012-06-26 17856, 2012
kyomi
PUID just reminds me of that CGI show ReBoot :)
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
ianmcorvidae
but ultimately acoustid is about mapping acoustids to musicbrainz recordings, so
2012-06-26 17800, 2012
pankkake
I saw that, it's actually helpful sometimes
2012-06-26 17830, 2012
ianmcorvidae
and yeah, kyomi, that's pretty much for re-tagging; it's saying if there's already MBIDs tagged to the files it'll act as though they aren't there
2012-06-26 17837, 2012
ianmcorvidae
i.e. it'll put it into the left pane rather than the right
2012-06-26 17845, 2012
kyomi
Ahh ok, cool
2012-06-26 17850, 2012
kyomi
Thanks alot :)
2012-06-26 17801, 2012
ianmcorvidae
normally when there's MBIDs it'll load it straight into the right panel into the relevant release, so :)
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
kyomi
Now we just need an option to go back to "simple" view and it'll all be sorted for me :)
2012-06-26 17859, 2012
kyomi
I so *LOVE* the drag and drop cover art thing... since I don't have to try and find some obscure link thats in an "approved" list, just to get cover art :)
2012-06-26 17834, 2012
ianmcorvidae
you can also upload things to the CAA, of course :)
2012-06-26 17844, 2012
kyomi
CAA? That exists now?
2012-06-26 17849, 2012
kyomi
Ooh, where? :)
2012-06-26 17853, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, it's been around a while
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
kyomi
I remember talking about last year
2012-06-26 17859, 2012
ianmcorvidae
the "Cover Art" tab on any release on musicbrainz :)
8C the "set all coments to" sript thing isn't working anymore :V
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
CatCat
crëpkakke?
2012-06-26 17858, 2012
kyomi
Oh my god.. I can not tell you how much I'm in love with this BYOCA model in Picard 1.0
2012-06-26 17806, 2012
pankkake
set all votes to, you mean?
2012-06-26 17814, 2012
CatCat
no wait.. that looks/sounds liek some thing..
2012-06-26 17816, 2012
CatCat
no
2012-06-26 17823, 2012
CatCat
set all recording comments
2012-06-26 17849, 2012
pankkake
I wasn't aware it existed. now i want it but if it's not working…
2012-06-26 17801, 2012
kyomi
CatCat: That name sounds extremely familiar... also because I'm trying to figure out which anime it's from >.>
2012-06-26 17817, 2012
CatCat
kyomi: what?
2012-06-26 17828, 2012
kyomi
Your nick
2012-06-26 17833, 2012
CatCat
...
2012-06-26 17854, 2012
kyomi
And now it's going to annoy me until I find out, just so I can forget 5 mins later
2012-06-26 17855, 2012
CatCat
you.. asume my name is fro man anime?
2012-06-26 17801, 2012
kyomi
I don't
2012-06-26 17811, 2012
CatCat
also because I'm trying to figure out which anime it's from >.>
2012-06-26 17850, 2012
CatCat
...
2012-06-26 17800, 2012
kyomi
Yes, because "CatCat" is a race of some people from an anime I've seen. It wasn't my intention to say that's where it came from, if that's how it came across, I apologize
