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      • Freso
        If people go to look at the recording, they'll see it with both versions listed.
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      • SultS
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      • Freso
        But the recording itself has "original".
      • 2012-07-03 18553, 2012

      • SultS
        yeah
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      • SultS
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      • Freso
        SultS: I've nother ISRC removal you can vote on, if you want: http://musicbrainz.org/user/Freso/edits/open :p
      • 2012-07-03 18542, 2012

      • SultS
        sure :)
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      • JESUS2099
        SultS: If you have to insert an ALERT before something in a userscript, it might mean that the script is running TOO EARLY. Maybe the whole stuff should be put inside a : self.addEventListener("load", function(e) { THEWHOLESCRIPTHERE }, false);
      • 2012-07-03 18503, 2012

      • JESUS2099
        or alternatively more hacky : setTimeout(function() { THEWHOLESCRIPTCOMESHERE }, 500);
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      • SultS
        JESUS2099: thanks, I’ll try that later :) better than alert(), for sure :)
      • 2012-07-03 18537, 2012

      • JESUS2099
        maybe, but more difficult to fix the userjs code when it’s not yours, than just adding alert :)
      • 2012-07-03 18514, 2012

      • Freso
        murdos: Ping? ^
      • 2012-07-03 18507, 2012

      • Freso
        Actually...
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      • Freso
        One could just make a push request against it on https://github.com/murdos/musicbrainz-userscripts ...
      • 2012-07-03 18547, 2012

      • Freso
        *pull
      • 2012-07-03 18553, 2012

      • murdos
        Freso: pong
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      • Freso
        murdos: Hello :) JESUS2099 has a possible solution/work-around for the issue with the Discogs importer, where you need to add alert() to get it to trigger.
      • 2012-07-03 18525, 2012

      • murdos
        Freso: ok :)
      • 2012-07-03 18534, 2012

      • murdos
        I'm waiting for your pull request ;)
      • 2012-07-03 18539, 2012

      • Freso
        :p
      • 2012-07-03 18506, 2012

      • Freso
        murdos: Honestly though, I'm not really very good at userscripts, and I'm not entirely sure of what Jesus2099 is talking about.
      • 2012-07-03 18537, 2012

      • Freso
        Esp. that something(function(){goes here...}) syntax is very alien to me.
      • 2012-07-03 18503, 2012

      • Freso
        I know that's how all the cool JS kids to it these days, but I'm still too old-school for that.
      • 2012-07-03 18505, 2012

      • Freso
        :/
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      • jacobbrett
        Hmm, might I use "Supporting Musician Relationship Type" for a temporary drummer that a band needed to fill in for a tour or would I use "Member of Band Relationship Type" + "additional"?
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      • reosarevok
        I could see supporting musician fitting there
      • 2012-07-03 18519, 2012

      • CallerNo6 likes "additional".
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      • CallerNo6
        No. I recant. "Supporting" makes sense.
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      • jacobbrett
        I'm not sure...it seems like "Supporting" is just "Member of..." reworded for solo artists who toured with backing musicians--should "Supporting" really exist as an independent rel? Maybe it should be a sub of "Member of"?
      • 2012-07-03 18509, 2012

      • jacobbrett
        Also, consider Ed Edge w/HORSE: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/7fd57f3c-e7d6-42e9-… He's been their tour manager for some long amount of time and sometimes appears on stage to play triangle...they made a post announcing that he was supposedly an official member as of last year. Would you consider the rels I added to be correct?
      • 2012-07-03 18519, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        I always thought of "supporting" as not really a member of a band (meaning, not one among more-or-less-equals)
      • 2012-07-03 18556, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        More like a session musician.
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      • jacobbrett
        Hmm, what does "additional member" mean?
      • 2012-07-03 18555, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        I can only guess. Probably best not to.
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      • frewsxcv
        ianweller: So I ran slave.sh overnight and it didn't seem to finish, nor did it print out anything helpful. Any ideas?
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      • ianweller
        frewsxcv: i have no context. i might be the wrong ian
      • 2012-07-03 18504, 2012

      • frewsxcv
        Woops. ianmcorvidae ^^^
      • 2012-07-03 18514, 2012

      • frewsxcv
        All you Ians
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      • ianweller
        :)
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      • CatCat
        i agree with CallerNo6 re session musician/ supporting
      • 2012-07-03 18554, 2012

      • CatCat
        hey guys. where is this discogs import button suposed to be on the discogs page?
      • 2012-07-03 18509, 2012

      • CallerNo6
        CatCat: then, like jacobbrett asked, what's "additional"?
      • 2012-07-03 18526, 2012

      • CatCat
        and like he said : "have no clue"
      • 2012-07-03 18527, 2012

      • CatCat
        well
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      • CatCat
        and on off again member? someoen they don't see as a member member?
      • 2012-07-03 18501, 2012

      • CatCat
        i have no idea what that is supposed to mean at this point
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      • reosarevok
        I have no idea what it was supposed to mean at any point
      • 2012-07-03 18514, 2012

      • CatCat
        yea
      • 2012-07-03 18518, 2012

      • CatCat
        but abotu this button?
      • 2012-07-03 18520, 2012

      • CatCat
        where is it?
      • 2012-07-03 18507, 2012

      • reosarevok
        At the right "sidebar"
      • 2012-07-03 18520, 2012

      • CatCat
        where i nit?
      • 2012-07-03 18501, 2012

      • CatCat
        sees no links on any pages
      • 2012-07-03 18528, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Under "Community" and over "Ratings"
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      • CatCat
        erh i bandcamp down?
      • 2012-07-03 18503, 2012

      • CatCat
        and were is the link normally on bandcamp pages?
      • 2012-07-03 18513, 2012

      • CatCat
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      • reosarevok
        Bandcamp?
      • 2012-07-03 18510, 2012

      • reosarevok has no importer for bandcamp so he doesn't know
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      • CatCat
        there's a banccamp importer too
      • 2012-07-03 18515, 2012

      • CatCat
        oh@
      • 2012-07-03 18503, 2012

      • derwin
        there is in fact a bandcamp importer
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      • njh
        Have I done this right? (relating Spotify to a release)
      • 2012-07-03 18555, 2012

      • njh
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, as long as it's the right release :p
      • 2012-07-03 18547, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (which it seems it is)
      • 2012-07-03 18512, 2012

      • njh
        great :)
      • 2012-07-03 18524, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, njh: we got a mail yesterday, some label was confused because they added one of their things to MB but it wasn't linked
      • 2012-07-03 18541, 2012

      • reosarevok
        In this case, I think it is not *possible* for you to link it at all right now though
      • 2012-07-03 18552, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Unless you are now able to have multiple artists per track?
      • 2012-07-03 18506, 2012

      • reosarevok knows you hadn't adopted that a while ago, but maybe you have now
      • 2012-07-03 18558, 2012

      • njh
        not yet sadly :(
      • 2012-07-03 18553, 2012

      • hawke_1
        *grumble* — edit approvals need to be more obvious. :-/
      • 2012-07-03 18514, 2012

      • reosarevok
        More?
      • 2012-07-03 18520, 2012

      • reosarevok
        They say "Approve" now...
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      • hawke_1
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      • hawke_1
        0 yes, 0 no… no indication that it was approved.
      • 2012-07-03 18543, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, on the sidebar?
      • 2012-07-03 18557, 2012

      • Freso
        hawke_1: "monxton Approve 2012-07-03 01:51 CEST"
      • 2012-07-03 18508, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, true. Not sure if ianmcorvidae or someone had looked into that already
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      • hawke_1
        Freso: Yes, if you go into the actual edit
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      • hawke_1
        But not on the edit listing.
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      • hawke_1
        To be fair the edit display never shows whether it was applied or not.
      • 2012-07-03 18513, 2012

      • hawke_1
        But at least usually you can figure it out from the votes
      • 2012-07-03 18514, 2012

      • reosarevok updates more Estonian stuff to new-CSG
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      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: I think we need country subscriptions just for you. :-)
      • 2012-07-03 18558, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, I do have a search for all Estonian edits
      • 2012-07-03 18554, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Although admittedly
      • 2012-07-03 18500, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Now that we can filter reports by them...
      • 2012-07-03 18505, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :D
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: What's the search? (I'd like a similar one for Danish stuff...)
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      • frewsxcv
        If I add an extra column to a table, let's say musicbrainz.label, will that mess up replication?
      • 2012-07-03 18552, 2012

      • Freso
        I'd probably ask that in #musicbrainz-devel - but the same people should be around here.
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      • reosarevok
        frewsxcv: I think it will
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      • reosarevok
        (not that I've ever tried)
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: artist country is: (whatever), status is: open, editor is not: me
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      • luks
        frewsxcv: no, it will not, unless there is a default value, so that it's not required on insert
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      • reosarevok
        It works for me because 90% of the Estonian stuff is set to Estonia anyway
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      • luks
        but it will probably mess up a future schema update, so you would have to handle that manually
      • 2012-07-03 18528, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oh, ok, that was it then
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      • reosarevok had the idea it would mess *something*
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      • frewsxcv
        luks: How about if I added an extra table to the db? Still screw things up on new schema change?
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: for your case, it might make sense to start with http://musicbrainz.org/search?query=country%3Adk+…
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      • luks
        frewsxcv: no problem with that, unless there is a name collision
      • 2012-07-03 18553, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Freso: and go setting artists to DK while you do so
      • 2012-07-03 18506, 2012

      • frewsxcv
        Okay, cool
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      • Freso
        But won't this search also show artists that are already set to DK?
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      • derwin
        as long as you add the column at the "right" of the table, you should be fine.
      • 2012-07-03 18558, 2012

      • derwin
        (until someone else modifies the table upstream)
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      • luks
        you can add it whenever you want, the replication always refers to columns by name
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      • derwin
        sweet, no lazy coders.
      • 2012-07-03 18527, 2012

      • derwin
        vanishingly rare, hat.
      • 2012-07-03 18530, 2012

      • Freso
        Also, /me goes to check who to ask why an artist is credited iwth è instead of é, looking through the editing history, and... it's himself that made that edit. >_>
      • 2012-07-03 18531, 2012

      • luks
        but the official schema upgrade scripts assume the schema is in the expected state
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      • derwin
        *that
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: Yes. But let's be honest... although the already set number is much higher than I expected at 1,397... most still won't be set
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      • luks
        so those will fail
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      • derwin
        an env without select *
      • 2012-07-03 18556, 2012

      • derwin
        it's like a dba's wet dream
      • 2012-07-03 18514, 2012

      • reosarevok realises Denmark is just under Estonia in the global list at the moment
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      • Freso
        derwin: env?
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      • reosarevok
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      • derwin
        or inserrt <list of values>
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      • luks
        well, and of course the initial import would fail
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      • derwin
        freso : environment
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      • luks
        because that one does assume a fixed number of columns
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      • Freso
        derwin: That's what I thought. I'm not enough of a DBA to get it then, I think. :D
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      • reosarevok
        Ugh, those pesky Canadians are almost getting enough artists to expel EE from the top 10!
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      • derwin
        freso, point is that if you do certain unsafe sql things which rely on column order in the table
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      • derwin
        you can't feel free to modify the tables
      • 2012-07-03 18559, 2012

      • derwin
        and pretty much everyone else does these unsafe things
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      • tro
        hey all. question: is there a delay between edits made on the site and the results appearing for lucene queries in the XML API?
      • 2012-07-03 18553, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yes - the edits need to apply
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      • reosarevok
        (sometimes that's immediate, often they need to go into a voting period though)