hmm, anybody here? i just ran into a kind of issue i've never encountered before:)
2012-07-28 21012, 2012
culinko
there was a release with protected track durations. but the songs names were switched over each other. now it tells me i can't change it because it's disc id attached, blabla. what can i do?:)
2012-07-28 21050, 2012
derwin
hi
2012-07-28 21059, 2012
derwin
I unfortunately don't know
2012-07-28 21002, 2012
derwin
but ppl are often here.
2012-07-28 21021, 2012
culinko
i know 5:27 is not the best time to ask:)
2012-07-28 21038, 2012
derwin
well it's 830pm here
2012-07-28 21007, 2012
portik
0630 am reporting but dunno the solution
2012-07-28 21026, 2012
portik
culinko: can you post url?
2012-07-28 21052, 2012
navap
culinko: Were you renaming the tracks or trying to reorder them?
2012-07-28 21005, 2012
navap
culinko: With a disc ID attached you won't be able to reorder the tracks
2012-07-28 21001, 2012
culinko
i just opened parser and copied there new text
2012-07-28 21043, 2012
culinko
won't let me to recordings tab
2012-07-28 21059, 2012
culinko
i'll try edit the tracks one by one
2012-07-28 21019, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, the parser probably isn't that smart
2012-07-28 21022, 2012
ianmcorvidae
sad though that is
2012-07-28 21031, 2012
culinko
well actualy no, it was my fault
2012-07-28 21045, 2012
culinko
had only 12 tracks in parser while there are 13 tracks, at least seems so
2012-07-28 21054, 2012
ianmcorvidae
ah, well, that'd do it
2012-07-28 21006, 2012
culinko
actually
2012-07-28 21032, 2012
culinko
there are 13 tracks, but when i click on recordings tab, i get the warnings and have 12 tracks there only
2012-07-28 21038, 2012
culinko
ill try without parsing
2012-07-28 21021, 2012
culinko
was able to proceed
2012-07-28 21025, 2012
culinko
strange
2012-07-28 21000, 2012
ianmcorvidae
the parser probably changed something strange that it shouldn't have
2012-07-28 21023, 2012
culinko
well there were only track numbers and titles
2012-07-28 21055, 2012
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2012-07-28 21008, 2012
culinko
the problem were the tab spaces. even if they were auto-trimmed
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2012-07-28 21016, 2012
Khmar
Is luks around?
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2012-07-28 21026, 2012
CatCat
culinko: accecatly what were you changing? and where?
now i realized there are wrong asins and stuff maybe :D
2012-07-28 21033, 2012
culinko
look two edits below me... lol
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culinko
mr_maxis: u there?
2012-07-28 21043, 2012
mr_maxis
just a second I'm writing you a note
2012-07-28 21039, 2012
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culinko
okay
2012-07-28 21006, 2012
mr_maxis
culinko: note added
2012-07-28 21012, 2012
culinko
yes, that would be the right way. i can cancel the edit and create a new release. i never moved discIDs before (didn't even know they are moveable), so it would be the first-time experience kinda :P
2012-07-28 21044, 2012
reosarevok
It's very easy :)
2012-07-28 21029, 2012
culinko
well it will be one more thing i will learn:)
2012-07-28 21037, 2012
mr_maxis
reosarevok: the edit counter on user page is supposed to be real-time? because mine look like frozen since yesterday at least... the vote counter updates correctly though
2012-07-28 21052, 2012
reosarevok
Maybe it's related to the pending edits disabling
2012-07-28 21056, 2012
reosarevok
(see the blog)
2012-07-28 21004, 2012
mr_maxis
oh
2012-07-28 21003, 2012
mr_maxis
I see
2012-07-28 21009, 2012
culinko
it's so confusing without the orange markings :S
2012-07-28 21030, 2012
ianmcorvidae
it's pending edits and editor stats stuff, yes
2012-07-28 21037, 2012
ianmcorvidae
so the listing on your user page won't update at present
2012-07-28 21005, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that the vote counter updates may be an oversight, heh
2012-07-28 21007, 2012
CatCat
re http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18521754 culinko, you should know that most times that the tracklist is "wrong" it's that you have the wrogn release. ior in this case the disc id is on the wrong release, reordering tracks or renamign thme is most often than not incorrect
2012-07-28 21027, 2012
CatCat really wishes that reordering tracks aqnd such wasn't so easy :(
2012-07-28 21009, 2012
CatCat
ahah i've fixed all the "Lonesome Travel(l)er" in the db :] ... go do a search for works "Lonesome Travel(l)er"
2012-07-28 21012, 2012
CatCat
ahahha
2012-07-28 21028, 2012
CatCat is pleased
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culinko
ye, i've learned a lessen from that
2012-07-28 21016, 2012
culinko
okay, moved the discid to the new release. that was easy :D
2012-07-28 21024, 2012
CatCat
it is
2012-07-28 21030, 2012
culinko
i got more into the musicbrainz process :D
2012-07-28 21015, 2012
reosarevok
Be afraid
2012-07-28 21018, 2012
reosarevok
Be very afraid
2012-07-28 21023, 2012
reosarevok
After a while you can't get out!
2012-07-28 21049, 2012
culinko
well i was just quoting one user's edit message :P
There were actually two sets of track titles available: One in hieroglyphics, and one in French. I went with the French track titles because hieroglyphics (1) require rare fonts, (2) use characters outside the Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane, and (3) don't really render correctly in Unicode, because there's no way to do 2-dimension layout.
2012-07-28 21012, 2012
reosarevok
You could add a second release in hieroglyphics, for people who want that
2012-07-28 21046, 2012
reosarevok
(as pseudo-release, linked to the French one with a "translated tracklist" relationship)
2012-07-28 21017, 2012
ekidd
Ah, that would be fun.
2012-07-28 21009, 2012
ekidd
I'll see if my input method allows me to type enough of the characters.
2012-07-28 21037, 2012
ekidd
Anyway, how does voting work for something really obscure like this? I'd hate to have all the data expire without anyone ever looking at it.
2012-07-28 21001, 2012
reosarevok
If it expires without anyone looking at it, it will pass
2012-07-28 21006, 2012
reosarevok
(and be accepted)
2012-07-28 21020, 2012
reosarevok
Voting is mostly so people can see it and *avoid* it being accepted if it's wrong
2012-07-28 21040, 2012
ekidd
Oh, OK. That makes sense. I had trouble figuring out the edge cases in the voting algorithm.
2012-07-28 21024, 2012
culinko
i think only the high quality edits fails without a vote (not sure)
2012-07-28 21051, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah
2012-07-28 21056, 2012
reosarevok
And that will change soon
2012-07-28 21058, 2012
reosarevok
Well, soon
2012-07-28 21009, 2012
reosarevok
When some developer implements the changes requested in style
2012-07-28 21023, 2012
ekidd
Final question: Each of these tracks corresponds to a lesson in the book, numbered 1-101. There would be significant utility in having the lesson numbers in the track titles, or at least continuing the track numbering from one disk to the next. But that seems like the kind of thing that should be discussed first.
2012-07-28 21007, 2012
reosarevok would see it reasonable to title them like Lesson 1: Title ... Lesson 101: Title
2012-07-28 21008, 2012
ekidd
Yeah, "Le�on 1:" would work fine, I think. Thank you!
2012-07-28 21059, 2012
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ekidd
Ow, this "502 Bad Gateway" stuff just ate 101 release -> track connects.
2012-07-28 21000, 2012
ekidd
connections.
2012-07-28 21001, 2012
culinko
just click back
2012-07-28 21009, 2012
culinko
it should be there
2012-07-28 21045, 2012
ekidd
Nope, it was the "Select a recording for updated track" bit.
2012-07-28 21056, 2012
ekidd
Editing 4 CDs of track names generates a whole pile of edits. :-/
2012-07-28 21047, 2012
ekidd
Thank you for helping a newbie figure out how to submit to MusicBrainz!
2012-07-28 21026, 2012
ekidd
How long will I typically need to wait before my edits are available to my CD ripping software?
2012-07-28 21027, 2012
ianmcorvidae
was this for a release add? if so, it should be available now (though it won't be in the search indexes, I suppose)
2012-07-28 21036, 2012
reosarevok
If it was editing, then... it depends, usually needs the edits to pass
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2012-07-28 21049, 2012
ekidd
Yeah, I can see the original add, but not the update with the lesson numbers we just discussed, so that makes perfect sense.
2012-07-28 21025, 2012
culinko
look in your userinfo for open edits, they should pass after 14 days or till you get 3 yes votes
2012-07-28 21006, 2012
ekidd
Too much work to ask anyone to vote, anyway�editing track names for a CD set generates pages of individual edits. Will wait the 14 days.
2012-07-28 21024, 2012
ekidd
Thank you for such a great database, and for all your help!
2012-07-28 21031, 2012
culinko
well there are so many edits, because you edited the recordings too:)
2012-07-28 21030, 2012
reosarevok
Which is probably a good thing, but as long as the tracklist edits pass that's enough for tagging
2012-07-28 21027, 2012
culinko
but you can be sucked into the system like a rest of us :D
2012-07-28 21010, 2012
culinko thinks Serena is on fire
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2012-07-28 21012, 2012
ekidd
I do have a lot of very weird CDs, and I sometimes re-rip them with various software packages, which means this probably won't be my last submission.
2012-07-28 21032, 2012
CatCat
lol good morning
2012-07-28 21009, 2012
CatCat
[14:48] reosarevok (as pseudo-release, linked to the French one with a "translated tracklist" relationship)
2012-07-28 21027, 2012
CatCat
actually if the release waspublished with both then it wouldn't be psuedo thoguh, would it?
2012-07-28 21027, 2012
reosarevok
I know, you could argue the French is the pseudo
2012-07-28 21033, 2012
reosarevok
Maybe
2012-07-28 21045, 2012
reosarevok
Except that adding two official entries for the same thing is ARGH PLEASE NO
2012-07-28 21013, 2012
CatCat
yeal
2012-07-28 21021, 2012
CatCat
alternate tracklists for the same release omg
2012-07-28 21053, 2012
CatCat totally wants to see the hieroglyph version
2012-07-28 21043, 2012
culinko
hmm, if i want to submit fingerprints, can i do it from picard or do i need acoustid fingerprinter?
2012-07-28 21052, 2012
reosarevok
You can do it from Picard, but only while you tag
2012-07-28 21004, 2012
reosarevok
Ok, not exactly
2012-07-28 21031, 2012
reosarevok
But for submitting stuff you have tagged already you'd need to move it to the left pane, scan it, and then move it back to the right one and submit
2012-07-28 21038, 2012
reosarevok
So it's easier to just use the fingerprinter
2012-07-28 21004, 2012
culinko
hmm, so if i want to submit fingerprints directly from an audio cd, how could i do it?:)
