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      • intgr
        erm
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      • intgr
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      • reosarevok
        Masters go at release groups
      • 2012-08-01 21458, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (since they are how they group different releases, like our RGs
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      • reosarevok
        )
      • 2012-08-01 21400, 2012

      • intgr
        Ahh
      • 2012-08-01 21411, 2012

      • intgr
        My bad :)
      • 2012-08-01 21439, 2012

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      • intgr
        Any edits on release http://musicbrainz.org/release/43a32685-d4a4-4b7b… are timing out (giving me a "502 Bad Gateway" response). Any ideas? ocharles?
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      • intgr
        For example when I try to add an URL relationship to http://coldtear.com/101-love-story/
      • 2012-08-01 21426, 2012

      • intgr
        Or cover art
      • 2012-08-01 21440, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I am getting plenty of 502 too
      • 2012-08-01 21459, 2012

      • intgr
        Ah okay
      • 2012-08-01 21401, 2012

      • intgr
        Back now
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      • ocharles
        something choked, can't explain why I'm afraid
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      • ocharles
        i have a feeling the problem is that something got deadlocked, but never aborted its transaction
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm
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      • ianmcorvidae
        why would that happen?
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      • intgr
        Postgres should automatically abort all but one of the deadlocked transactions
      • 2012-08-01 21442, 2012

      • intgr
        Or you mean just locked for a long time?
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      • intgr
        By the way, cover uploads are fast again now :)
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      • hawke_
        jesus2099: You monitoring the chatlogs? (i.e. "you around?")
      • 2012-08-01 21453, 2012

      • hawke_
        ack, nevermind — I see you fixed the acoustID dupe display thing
      • 2012-08-01 21420, 2012

      • hawke_
        Note to music producers: 644-track releases: Never OK.
      • 2012-08-01 21415, 2012

      • reosarevok
        lol
      • 2012-08-01 21425, 2012

      • reosarevok
        what was it?
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      • hawke_
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      • hawke_
        But I am currently stopped for what will presumably be a 502.
      • 2012-08-01 21412, 2012

      • hawke_
        yep
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      • ocharles looks
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      • ocharles
        there is something idle in transaction
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      • ocharles
        and it's beta
      • 2012-08-01 21413, 2012

      • ocharles gives it a few more seconds
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      • ocharles
        hawke_: try now?
      • 2012-08-01 21421, 2012

      • hawke_
        All good.
      • 2012-08-01 21407, 2012

      • CatCat
        cover art url shoudl be disabeled soemhow
      • 2012-08-01 21455, 2012

      • ocharles
        CatCat: adding new cover art URLs?
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      • CatCat
        do we have a "has cover art at" report?
      • 2012-08-01 21401, 2012

      • CatCat
        or nikki?
      • 2012-08-01 21406, 2012

      • CatCat
        ocharles: yes
      • 2012-08-01 21407, 2012

      • ocharles
        that disabling/deprecation will probably come when we fully announce CAA in october
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      • ocharles
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      • CatCat
        oh it's still"beta" or whatever?
      • 2012-08-01 21445, 2012

      • CatCat goes to vote on ones wich are yellow
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      • CatCat
        oh wait.. is that?
      • 2012-08-01 21418, 2012

      • ocharles
        we're at 62k now, so hopefully we reach our goal in 2 more months :)
      • 2012-08-01 21423, 2012

      • CatCat
        hmm
      • 2012-08-01 21405, 2012

      • CatCat
        I'd like a report that had ALL the "has cover art url" in it
      • 2012-08-01 21410, 2012

      • hawke_
        ocharles: More 502 (on Beta)
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      • ocharles notices his logs scrolling
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      • ocharles
        another idle in transaction postgres, hum.
      • 2012-08-01 21434, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok, ianmcorvidae : I think it might be worth getting this new-connection stuff onto beta
      • 2012-08-01 21448, 2012

      • ocharles
        oddly it's only beta that seems to get stuck in transaction, but it is deployed a bit differently
      • 2012-08-01 21403, 2012

      • ocharles
        hawke_: should be back
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      • hawke_
        Yep
      • 2012-08-01 21412, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok: that or we adjust the reaper to kill things idle in transaction for over 20 seconds or something
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      • ocharles
        that being the easier option for now
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      • ruaok
        thats pretty easy.
      • 2012-08-01 21428, 2012

      • ruaok
        want me to do that?
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      • ocharles
        sure, link me to a diff or something to review before you deploy it
      • 2012-08-01 21445, 2012

      • ocharles
        but yea, should be easy
      • 2012-08-01 21407, 2012

      • ruaok
        k
      • 2012-08-01 21412, 2012

      • hawke_
        That is one sexy graph, though.
      • 2012-08-01 21408, 2012

      • CatCat
        oioioi nå har pulsecki fått ut fingern
      • 2012-08-01 21446, 2012

      • hawke_
        Weird curve in the “releases with cover art” rate of change graph, 2012-07-10 – 2012-07-18: http://goo.gl/kXwG0
      • 2012-08-01 21411, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok: we should be using "SELECT pg_terminate_backend(pid)" instead of kill I think
      • 2012-08-01 21430, 2012

      • ruaok
        sounds wise.
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      • ruaok
        I'll change it to do that
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      • CatCat
        jammen vant han ikke
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      • CatCat
        heeh norway won semifinals in fencing
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      • hawke_
        More 502, adding a work on non-beta
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      • ruaok
        only one process stuck on totoro
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      • ruaok
        idle.
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      • ruaok
        I'll kill it.
      • 2012-08-01 21450, 2012

      • ruaok
        done.
      • 2012-08-01 21457, 2012

      • ruaok
        that select worked as promised.
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      • ocharles
        ruaok: we don't want to kill idle, but we do want to kill idle in transaction
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      • ocharles
        just to clarify, i guess you were abbreviating
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      • ruaok
        yep
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      • CatCat
        come oonn it's the olymics!
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      • derwin
        ocharles: damn you, yesterday "mark hawkins" radio played me totally the wrong artist!!
      • 2012-08-01 21425, 2012

      • ocharles
        hey, nothing to do with me :)
      • 2012-08-01 21430, 2012

      • ocharles
        balme everyone else blocking my work :P
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      • VxJasonxV
        I think Picard is still corrupting my tags. In new and exciting ways.
      • 2012-08-01 21401, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        Seems to be primarily an AAC problem but I'm not 100% sure about that yet.
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      • VxJasonxV
        I bet this is an id3v2.4 problem :(.
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      • hawke_
        Can’t be, AAC doesn’t use ID3
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      • reosarevok
        I really don't need more games, but this looks fun http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/01/outbre…
      • 2012-08-01 21445, 2012

      • hawke_
        Oof, bitmap’s “batch add work relations from release” userscript needs a “just name the !@#$ thing after the recording/track” mode.
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      • reosarevok
        As in, "add for all"?
      • 2012-08-01 21412, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (I mean, it does name it after the thing when creating it)
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      • hawke_
        Yes
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      • hawke_
        or “add for selected”
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      • hawke_
        Clicking “new work, create work” gets tedious
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      • hawke_ speeds it up slightly by not waiting for 'create work' to finish before moving on.
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      • reosarevok guesses it's intentional, like "make suuure it's not theeere"
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      • reosarevok
        (but yes)
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      • reosarevok
        (it'd help)
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      • VxJasonxV
        hawke_, umm. haha right :)
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      • hawke_
        reosarevok: These composers, with their 50-part works which aren’t (weren’t) yet in MB. :-/
      • 2012-08-01 21442, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        if I uncheck 'also include id3v1 tags' in picard, does it delete the ones that are already there? or just leave them alone?
      • 2012-08-01 21458, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        I'd love to strip id3v1 outright (no relation to my previous comments)
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      • kepstin-work
        VxJasonxV: I think it'll leave them alone unless you also check 'Clear existing tags'.
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      • kepstin-work
        not sure tho
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      • kepstin-work hasn't tested this :)
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      • VxJasonxV
        :(
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      • VxJasonxV
        so in other words I should just leave it checked.
      • 2012-08-01 21414, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        because it I'm not sure how I feel about 'clear existing tags' yet.
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      • VxJasonxV
        or should I say still
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      • kepstin-work
        I have it unchecked.
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      • VxJasonxV
        because in all my years of using picard I've never checked it.
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      • kepstin-work
        I can't use clear existing tags because replaygain :/
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      • VxJasonxV
        (talking about clear existing)
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      • VxJasonxV
        oh yeah I'm never checked clear existing.
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      • VxJasonxV
        replaygain, and custom tags that DJ software uses.
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      • VxJasonxV
        never checking*
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      • reosarevok
        VxJasonxV: you probably could use some batch-editing software to remove all id3v1?
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      • VxJasonxV
        maybe
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      • reosarevok
        (or you could just say "meh, can't hurt")
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      • reosarevok
        (can it hurt?)
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      • kepstin-work
        aside from legacy applications that only support id3v1, they're completely ignored if a supported id3v2 tag is present
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      • kepstin-work
        (which means sticking with id3v2.3 if you use windows media player...)
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      • hawke_
        kepstin-work: Can’t you use the 'preserve tags' feature?
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      • hawke_
        reosarevok: as far as I know, the only pain of ID3v1 is the length limitation
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      • kepstin-work
        hawke_: suppose I could, but I'm not sure how much to trust it.
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      • kepstin-work
        hawke_: and the lack of proper character encoding specification support.
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      • hawke_
        kepstin-work: The new tag diff view makes it a lot more trustable, IMO — since you can now actually see what will change.
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      • kepstin-work
        true
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      • kepstin-work
        I have to make sure to try it with a bunch of different file formats, including both styles of mp3 replaygain tags, before I can really use it tho
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      • hawke_
        actually finding the magic keyword tag name is annoying though
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      • kepstin-work
        hawke_: that should be the first column in the tag diff view, right?
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      • hawke_
        Nope, though it’s usually close to that
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      • kepstin-work
        oh, right, that uses the human-friendly version
      • 2012-08-01 21416, 2012

      • hawke_
        (Picard does some “smart” things with that display, like removing underscores and adding a space between CamelCaseThings
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      • Mineo
        finding the name of the tag in http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard/Tag… shouldn't be too hard :)
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      • hawke_
        Mineo: That only helps if it’s a known tag, which it’s not if you’re preserving them
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      • kepstin-work has a shared spreadsheet on google docs with a lot of tags, too.
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      • kepstin-work
        hmm. I want to preserve the comment and encoder tags, too.
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      • kepstin-work would send a link to the spreadsheet, but google won't let him.
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      • hawke_
        o_O
      • 2012-08-01 21409, 2012

      • hawke_
        copy/paste URL??
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      • hawke_
        Anyone have any idea what work http://musicbrainz.org/recording/e4f1f5ac-43ba-46… might belong to?