#musicbrainz

http://acoustid.org/track/73522fc1-eae2-4a10-92... http://musicbrainz.org/recording/44612124-bad8-... http://musicbrainz.org/recording/4407f471-493b-... I would probably merge these two.....

?

Boom

there goes the merge

Most likely the same, yeah

wow that's a lot of works

I did say it was big

:)

question: I have this Norwegian release in an English version: http://musicbrainz.org/release/c4efd0d5-7eab-47...

how should I go about adding info about it?

like english track names and so on

the release also falls under CSG rules

oh and the Naxos catalogue number is different

exact same tracks though

Hmm

Ok

Same release group

Go to the release group, press Add release

Load the existing release when you get to "Release duplicates" and change the titles

ah

reosarevok, what about CSG though? I presume it messes everything up like it usually does?

Well, the Norwegian version seems reasonably OK

hm

Hmm, disc 3 does

Disc 1 I guess is Peer Gynt

(and should have Peer Gynt: before track titles

)

not all of disc 1

there is some other stuff apart from peer gynt on it

Oh, I see now

Hmm

Can I have the Naxos cat# in your release? :)

sec

8.503186

it could be a Swedish one

though all the text is in English

That's a standard Naxos cat#

right

So it's probably pretty much worldwide

(for those)

well the Norwegian one had a different number

" MUD-8.503-186N "

I have never seen that format before

Yeah, and that kinda looks like a licensed re-release of some kind

possibly

(and that should probably be marked as a different label)

Anyway

Heh

There you go

So in this case it is a Swedish release :)

I have no idea why, but naxos loads really slowly for me. Always has.

ah finally loaded

Yeah, it's slow in general I think

about a minute to load

after this I have the rest of a 7 disc release of Villa-Lobos from Bis to add in... Fun... (Added in one or two discs last year then I forgot about it)

So, it's generally safe to just follow your cover or other tracklist on the CD, since it should be OK

Just remember to put the full piece title (as printed on the release, but following http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/Lang... ) before each part

you mean Naxos follow CSG? Hrrm. Well the summary track list on the back of the paper box does not. The track list on each CD case seems okay though

No, but CSG is no longer needed in its most strict way

oh?

(that is, not every damn title needs to be exactly the same)

ah

good

(since we can just link it to the right works)

I have like 70 classical CDs that I never got around to adding to musicbrainz because of CSG pain

So what I do now (and most people I think) is mostly follow what's printed, but with some corrections

also they had no label on them

well, no proper label

(always putting the full work name before them etc)

(also, op. and no. should be lowercase, as per the latest guidelines)

did that change?

I don't think I added a release since last summer or so

Yeah

It was Op. and No. before

hm

But there was some discussion and it was decided to use lowercase, some Grove stuff I think

anyway you said something about linking to the work

what is that about?

:)

also who/what is Grove with a capital G?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Grove_Dict... I think

heh

And works... look at http://musicbrainz.org/release/9dca6fc5-224a-4c...

See the "recording of" thingy?

Those are works

If you click on one, like http://musicbrainz.org/work/d94d2e8b-78d3-3d2f-...

no.. because my computer just decided to swap out firefox...

wait a sec

right

You can see what they are - the composition level thing, they group all recordings of it

oh you had those relation thingies before to some degree

like conducted by

Yeah, those haven't changed

But "composed" is no longer applied to the tracks

too time consuming to enter those though when you have 50 CDs or so you wish to add

But to works, which allow that thing I showed you

hm

But they're kind of a pain right now, because bitmap is still building decent interfaces for them

So right now all classical editors use http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/128593 :)

so a work performed by X and conducted by Y but composed by Z is not the same as the same work, composed by the same guy and performed by the same orchestra but conducted by a different guy?

Yes, it is!

(it's a different recording)

well yes that was my point

so how is it not a property of the track

That is

I said "composer" is not :)

ah

(it was before)

Well, "conductor" is now a property of the recording

also user scripts? Is that some greasemonkey thing?

(recordings can be used in multiple releases, like what we want to do with that Grieg thing, since they're the same)

And yes

I use chrome on my desktop, not going to enter stuff using firefox there.

oh well

Oh

finally cdparanoia finished the first of 7 discs

Chrome has support for it without needing greasemonkey

ah I see

If you have the latest version you apparently need to download it and then drag it to the Extensions list, because they are idiots and decided it was a safety risk to let people use their browser how they wanted

But apart from that, they work without any other program or need

heh

reosarevok: i am just submitting the bug report we were talking about yesterday, should i choose "data display" as a component?

reosarevok, how sensitive is the new fancy music fingerprint thingy to medium quality OGG as opposed to lossless?

Vorpal: AFAIK, it makes no difference

nice

culinko: probably

also where do the uploaded fingerprints go, I can't see them in auto edits like the old PUID stuff did

They go through http://acoustid.org/

hm

You can see them in the fingerprint tab, but they're stored by them not us

Well, them is luks here

I thought http://acoustid.org/ were run by the same organisation as musicbrainz?

Nope

hm, I wouldn't have put in my login if I knew that

It's developed by the same guy who developed most of Picard (a.k.a. luks)

oh well, guess it is fine then

And it's affiliated to us and we love them

But it's not MB itself :p

right

Yeah, the login thing is perfectly safe, don't worry

So how do you in theory remove an incorrect fingerprint nowdays?

doesn't seem as simple

From the acoustID sire