#musicbrainz

ehrgeiz: You don’t need to restart Opera to take a user script to work (you can even edit the script on the fly)

kepstin-work and hawke_ Hey thanks to your chatlogs I found this cool tool http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/AudioStats/

hawke_: Who doesn’t use Nabble for the style forum ? ;P

kepstin-work: DR number seems cool but they say stuff like : « DR Tracks:10 10 9 10 9 8 10 11 9 8 11 10 9 8 (might not be in original order) »

(might not be in original order) (._.?) then what’s the use ? :)

jesus2099: yeah, we won't be able to use the current DB at all

jesus2099: because of the out-of-order problem

we'd need to make a new DB

I found http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/AudioStats/ through the DR bla bla website but it doesn’t seem to display the DR number…

sometimes people put the log output into the 'comment' field and then we could just re-parse it

yeah, I'm loading that page now, I'm curious

their DB is only useful for a user script to display DR number on release groups, maybe that’s already something nice…

or release maybe

ideally what we'd do is make a new DB rather than using the http://www.dr.loudness-war.info one whose information isn't very useful

one that uses MBIDs

ianmcorvidae: it’s a pity, we should tell them to enbetter their DB instead, I think they worked lots already they could be happy to better it…

yeah, improving that DB is also an option -- we'd need to find some sort of contact there though

BTW here is the foobar2000 DR number calculator, http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/DynamicRange/ :)

oh, I'm on linux anyway, I use dr14_tmeter

ianmcorvidae: fancy !

ah

it’s so cool ! even though the live album I’m currently listening to has bad score DR7 :)

most of my stuff's had pretty terrible scores

only the classical has been good

or the old CDs

they sound quiet

ianmcorvidae: does your t-mater submit the DR# to that DB ? My fb2k’s DR component can show me the logs etc. but I don’t know if it submits anything (without interaction) I don’t know yet how this DB is contributed…

oh, no, there's just an upload form

Where you paste the logs ?

dr14_tmeter just generates logs

jesus2099: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ hit "Upload Form"

you have to fill in all the info yourself but musicbrainz is helpful for it :)

if you do upload logs, paste them into the "comment" field as well; if you do that it's possible to know which tracks have which DR ratings exactly

ianmcorvidae: they should make it better indeed… all the info could be parsed from logs (including sound source format and exsact track order)

yeah

adding a field for the musicbrainz release MBID would also make it super-easy to get good information

I doubt they can get things like the label code from the logs, for example

ianmcorvidae: Im trying to submit http://musicbrainz.org/release/3b022f88-6c4d-44... as a test’

ianmcorvidae: THEM CRAZEY ! I fill in many stuff, hit submit and they just blank the page and say«  Not all necessary information has been provided. »

jesus2099: if you just pull it back up or hit back the info should be there, at least it was for me when I did it

but you're right, their site isn't particularly well-written

I must have done wrong by unhide the form again, I lost everythings

Oh got it with many BACK buttons now

WE CAN’T select Source : CD… ok I ripped it to FLAC and will select FLAC then :) rescanning… ( ¬_¬)

yeah, it's saying the digital format for source

ianmcorvidae: but I first scanned without ripping the CD to "digital format" :)

ah

well, internally it probably ripped it in some format

better to know exactly :)

WOOHOO ! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=...

ianmcorvidae: I tried to submit twice to see what happens,; what happanes is duplicate reports :) http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?searc...

yeah

their DB needs a lot of improvement :)

ianmcorvidae: internally it’s just LPCM, I don’t think fb2k converts to any temporary FILE format ;)

ianmcorvidae: If you want here is the logfile for a CD, compare with the end of FLAC log http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=...

Samplerate: 44100 Hz

Channels: 2

Bits per sample: 16

Bitrate: 1411 kbps

Codec: CDDA

ah

In foobar2000, all inputs are codecs that throw sound to main engine where then you can have several outputs too

or DSP

great, isn’t it ? :)

this lastproject user is spam thing ?

ianmcorvidae: someone from MB tested it, (maybe kepstin-work from yesterday as it’s some anime OST stuff) http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=... ← there is MBID over there (I should have pasted it too)

ah, yeah, I didn't put MBIDs in my uploads either

ianmcorvidae: which one is yours ?

(Every Little Thing - ACOUSTIC : LATTE; moumoon - SPARK; Wise Guys - Zwei Welten; Perfume - JPN)

ianmcorvidae: Hey by the way why do they even say that « (might not be in original order) » ?? the logs are always in correct order I don’t see how could someone submmut random tracks ?

some of mine have been switched-around, actually

oh, bah, I didn't include the logs with all of mine

someone /kickass TheLastProject

ianmcorvidae: T-meter submits random order ?

submits→logs

no, it's been largely in the right order

I know I saw one of mine do track 2 before track 1 though

maybe it didn't log it that way though

How the hell would I be "rejoining" often? I never lost connection >.>

TheLastProject, are you in Windows 7?

(it sometimes does that to me)

reosarevok: No, Arch Linux x64. I'm running the ZNC daemon locally to keep me connected to IRC but GNOME3 started going all stupid and forced my screen resolution to 640*480 and I couldn't manage to fix that >.>

GNOME3 was stupid from the getgo :p

TheLastProject: you mostly have a lot of nick changes. I indeed don't see many rejoins.

reosarevok: It's nice to use, but the stability can surely be improved

And some design ideas are just... insane

"Oooh, thanks for changing my trusted desktop to something that seems designed for a tablet"

warp: Ah, that makes more sense. I don't think ZNC can be told to change nick when the connection is lost for longer, it seems to either do it directly or not

reosarevok: The only design issue that really bothered me was the lack of Shut Down in the menu

The "Activities" menu is actually pretty nice once you get used to it

Dunno, I mean, yeah, I *could* try to get used to it

Oh yeah, and tray icons can be improved

They behave so... inconsistent

Sometimes a click opens the program, sometimes it shows the last notification

And yeah =/

But why should I have to? There seems to be no great benefit that requires everyone to change to their latest design masturbation

I find it to be much faster than clicking programs in the task bar and it gives a nice overview

But to each their own, I guess :P

anyway, for now Steam and games are keeping me in Win7 - when win8 arrives I guess I'll scream and run back to linux :p

(please Steam be working well in linux by then)

reosarevok: You know that the Steam for Linux beta is likely to be released in September for Beta testers, right? :P

Yeah

(Still takes too long, imho)

But I suspect most of the games won't be magically ported to Linux in September

(as in: the ones I have paid for for Windows)

Probably not, but hopefully we'll start with a fair amount of games and it'll be a success

the binding of isaac actually works better for me when I play it via steam in wine :P

Oh, I'm fairly sure it will be a success in the mid term

Short term maybe not that much, but still

I assume Valve are counting on that

I don't think VALVe will go all ID software on us :P

"Nobody on Linux plays Quake Live, it's not worth spending time on the platform"

>Implying Linux doesn't have enough arena shooters

>Implying the Linux launcher even worked properly

heh

Did they even advertise having Linux versions?

Before Quake Live, which didn't work, I didn't even know ID software had any...

I doubt they advertised that back in the day