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      • jesus2099
        ehrgeiz: You don’t need to restart Opera to take a user script to work (you can even edit the script on the fly)
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      • jesus2099
        kepstin-work and hawke_ Hey thanks to your chatlogs I found this cool tool http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/AudioStats/
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      • jesus2099
        hawke_: Who doesn’t use Nabble for the style forum ? ;P
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      • jesus2099
        kepstin-work: DR number seems cool but they say stuff like : « DR Tracks: 10 10 9 10 9 8 10 11 9 8 11 10 9 8 (might not be in original order) »
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      • jesus2099
        (might not be in original order) (._.?) then what’s the use ? :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: yeah, we won't be able to use the current DB at all
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: because of the out-of-order problem
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      • ianmcorvidae
        we'd need to make a new DB
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      • jesus2099
        I found http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/AudioStats/ through the DR bla bla website but it doesn’t seem to display the DR number…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        sometimes people put the log output into the 'comment' field and then we could just re-parse it
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, I'm loading that page now, I'm curious
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      • jesus2099
        their DB is only useful for a user script to display DR number on release groups, maybe that’s already something nice…
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      • jesus2099
        or release maybe
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ideally what we'd do is make a new DB rather than using the http://www.dr.loudness-war.info one whose information isn't very useful
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      • ianmcorvidae
        one that uses MBIDs
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: it’s a pity, we should tell them to enbetter their DB instead, I think they worked lots already they could be happy to better it…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, improving that DB is also an option -- we'd need to find some sort of contact there though
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      • jesus2099
        BTW here is the foobar2000 DR number calculator, http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/DynamicRange/ :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, I'm on linux anyway, I use dr14_tmeter
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: fancy !
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      • jesus2099
        ah
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      • jesus2099
        it’s so cool ! even though the live album I’m currently listening to has bad score DR7 :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        most of my stuff's had pretty terrible scores
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      • ianmcorvidae
        only the classical has been good
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      • jesus2099
        or the old CDs
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      • jesus2099
        they sound quiet
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: does your t-mater submit the DR# to that DB ? My fb2k’s DR component can show me the logs etc. but I don’t know if it submits anything (without interaction) I don’t know yet how this DB is contributed…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, no, there's just an upload form
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      • jesus2099
        Where you paste the logs ?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        dr14_tmeter just generates logs
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ hit "Upload Form"
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      • ianmcorvidae
        you have to fill in all the info yourself but musicbrainz is helpful for it :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        if you do upload logs, paste them into the "comment" field as well; if you do that it's possible to know which tracks have which DR ratings exactly
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: they should make it better indeed… all the info could be parsed from logs (including sound source format and exsact track order)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        adding a field for the musicbrainz release MBID would also make it super-easy to get good information
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I doubt they can get things like the label code from the logs, for example
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: Im trying to submit http://musicbrainz.org/release/3b022f88-6c4d-44f5… as a test’
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: THEM CRAZEY ! I fill in many stuff, hit submit and they just blank the page and say«  Not all necessary information has been provided. »
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: if you just pull it back up or hit back the info should be there, at least it was for me when I did it
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      • ianmcorvidae
        but you're right, their site isn't particularly well-written
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      • jesus2099
        I must have done wrong by unhide the form again, I lost everythings
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      • jesus2099
        Oh got it with many BACK buttons now
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      • jesus2099
        WE CAN’T select Source : CD… ok I ripped it to FLAC and will select FLAC then :) rescanning… ( ¬_¬)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, it's saying the digital format for source
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: but I first scanned without ripping the CD to "digital format" :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        well, internally it probably ripped it in some format
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      • ianmcorvidae
        better to know exactly :)
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      • jesus2099
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: I tried to submit twice to see what happens,; what happanes is duplicate reports :) http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        their DB needs a lot of improvement :)
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: internally it’s just LPCM, I don’t think fb2k converts to any temporary FILE format ;)
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: If you want here is the logfile for a CD, compare with the end of FLAC log http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=25…
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      • jesus2099
        Samplerate: 44100 Hz
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      • jesus2099
        Channels: 2
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      • jesus2099
        Bits per sample: 16
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      • jesus2099
        Bitrate: 1411 kbps
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      • jesus2099
        Codec: CDDA
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ah
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      • jesus2099
        In foobar2000, all inputs are codecs that throw sound to main engine where then you can have several outputs too
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      • jesus2099
        or DSP
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      • jesus2099
        great, isn’t it ? :)
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      • jesus2099
        this lastproject user is spam thing ?
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: someone from MB tested it, (maybe kepstin-work from yesterday as it’s some anime OST stuff) http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=25… ← there is MBID over there (I should have pasted it too)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ah, yeah, I didn't put MBIDs in my uploads either
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: which one is yours ?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (Every Little Thing - ACOUSTIC : LATTE; moumoon - SPARK; Wise Guys - Zwei Welten; Perfume - JPN)
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: Hey by the way why do they even say that « (might not be in original order) » ?? the logs are always in correct order I don’t see how could someone submmut random tracks ?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        some of mine have been switched-around, actually
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      • ianmcorvidae sees if I can find any examples of that
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      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, bah, I didn't include the logs with all of mine
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      • jesus2099
        someone /kickass TheLastProject
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: T-meter submits random order ?
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      • jesus2099
        submits→logs
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      • ianmcorvidae
        no, it's been largely in the right order
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I know I saw one of mine do track 2 before track 1 though
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      • ianmcorvidae
        maybe it didn't log it that way though
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      • TheLastProject
        How the hell would I be "rejoining" often? I never lost connection >.>
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      • reosarevok
        TheLastProject, are you in Windows 7?
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      • reosarevok
        (it sometimes does that to me)
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      • TheLastProject
        reosarevok: No, Arch Linux x64. I'm running the ZNC daemon locally to keep me connected to IRC but GNOME3 started going all stupid and forced my screen resolution to 640*480 and I couldn't manage to fix that >.>
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      • reosarevok
        GNOME3 was stupid from the getgo :p
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      • warp
        TheLastProject: you mostly have a lot of nick changes. I indeed don't see many rejoins.
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      • TheLastProject
        reosarevok: It's nice to use, but the stability can surely be improved
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      • TheLastProject
        And some design ideas are just... insane
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      • reosarevok had more issues with that, yeah
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      • reosarevok
        "Oooh, thanks for changing my trusted desktop to something that seems designed for a tablet"
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      • reosarevok just installs xfce now when he installs linux
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      • TheLastProject
        warp: Ah, that makes more sense. I don't think ZNC can be told to change nick when the connection is lost for longer, it seems to either do it directly or not
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      • TheLastProject
        reosarevok: The only design issue that really bothered me was the lack of Shut Down in the menu
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      • TheLastProject
        The "Activities" menu is actually pretty nice once you get used to it
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      • reosarevok
        Dunno, I mean, yeah, I *could* try to get used to it
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      • TheLastProject
        Oh yeah, and tray icons can be improved
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      • TheLastProject
        They behave so... inconsistent
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      • TheLastProject
        Sometimes a click opens the program, sometimes it shows the last notification
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      • TheLastProject
        And yeah =/
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      • reosarevok
        But why should I have to? There seems to be no great benefit that requires everyone to change to their latest design masturbation
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      • reosarevok shrugs
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      • TheLastProject
        I find it to be much faster than clicking programs in the task bar and it gives a nice overview
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      • TheLastProject
        But to each their own, I guess :P
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      • reosarevok
        anyway, for now Steam and games are keeping me in Win7 - when win8 arrives I guess I'll scream and run back to linux :p
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      • reosarevok
        (please Steam be working well in linux by then)
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      • TheLastProject
        reosarevok: You know that the Steam for Linux beta is likely to be released in September for Beta testers, right? :P
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • TheLastProject
        (Still takes too long, imho)
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      • reosarevok
        But I suspect most of the games won't be magically ported to Linux in September
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      • reosarevok
        (as in: the ones I have paid for for Windows)
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      • TheLastProject
        Probably not, but hopefully we'll start with a fair amount of games and it'll be a success
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      • Mineo
        the binding of isaac actually works better for me when I play it via steam in wine :P
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, I'm fairly sure it will be a success in the mid term
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      • reosarevok
        Short term maybe not that much, but still
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      • reosarevok
        I assume Valve are counting on that
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      • TheLastProject
        I don't think VALVe will go all ID software on us :P
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      • TheLastProject
        "Nobody on Linux plays Quake Live, it's not worth spending time on the platform"
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      • TheLastProject
        >Implying Linux doesn't have enough arena shooters
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      • TheLastProject
        >Implying the Linux launcher even worked properly
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      • reosarevok
        heh
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      • TheLastProject
        Did they even advertise having Linux versions?
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      • TheLastProject
        Before Quake Live, which didn't work, I didn't even know ID software had any...
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      • reosarevok
        I doubt they advertised that back in the day