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      • reosarevok
        I mean
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      • TheLastProject
        Yeah, it's a small market, I get that
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      • TheLastProject
        But if I look on a CD case and I only see Windows system requirements, I assume it doesn't run on Linux
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      • reosarevok
        Linux itself was pretty much word of mouth until a few years ago, so using the same for its games made sense
      • 2012-08-22 23508, 2012

      • reosarevok
        heh, yeah, ok, that's too much :p
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      • TheLastProject
        (Still happens these days, Botanicula has only Win/Mac on the CD box in stores, but it runs on Linux too...)
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      • reosarevok
        They sold Botanicula on CD in stores?
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      • reosarevok
        Go figure
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      • reosarevok
        I kinda tend to assume only AAA stuff goes on stores anymore
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      • jesus2099
        sorry TheLastProject I thought your were a spamming bots :)
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      • reosarevok
        (well, I also tend to assume almost nobody goes *into* stores anymore, except to buy used)
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      • TheLastProject
        I found it in a German Saturn store (which is a technology store)
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      • TheLastProject
        jesus2099: Nah, can happen, I'm sorry for having a misconfigured system :P
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      • reosarevok
        (or for cases like Skyrim here, which just *didn't* sell online because the local distributors are a bunch of retards)
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: it’s interesting to find out what’s going wrong with track order (it seems OK in foobar’s component)
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      • tashoutang
        excuse me
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      • tashoutang
        I am hearing the song: nina simons "feeling good"
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      • tashoutang
        and how do we call this style of music?
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      • tashoutang
        jazz?
      • 2012-08-22 23536, 2012

      • tashoutang
        soul music?
      • 2012-08-22 23545, 2012

      • tashoutang
        jazz+ soul?
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      • reosarevok
        Death to genres! :p
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      • reosarevok
        (they never fit!)
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      • reosarevok
        (so, probably no good answer)
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      • tashoutang
        OK
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      • tashoutang
        so can you recommand a typical soul music on youtube?
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      • jesus2099
        I think it’s post gothic gore thrash doom indus fusion
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      • reosarevok
        lol jesus2099
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      • reosarevok
        tashoutang: I am not very familiar with the style, so a playlist sounds like the better option I guess, there, have http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC15CA15DFA…
      • 2012-08-22 23538, 2012

      • tashoutang
        OK
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      • tashoutang
        well doom-like!!!
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      • jesus2099
        Oh yeah it could be doom-like or dune2-like, I’m not genre expert :)
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      • tashoutang
        mmm... interesting, connect the music style with computer game style
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      • tashoutang
        well, how to find "super mario" style music???
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      • reosarevok
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      • warp
        o_O
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      • reosarevok
        hello warp!
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      • tashoutang
        My goodness!!!
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      • jesus2099
        chiptune is technical characteristic
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      • jesus2099
        there can be chiptunes in ganres ranging from "post gothic gore thrash doom indus fusion" to "post nuclear techno"
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      • jesus2099
        or "epic medieval speed core"
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      • reosarevok
        Sure, but it's still a decent place to look into :p
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      • jesus2099
        or even chiptunes that genre is "post crap" like http://last.fm/music/jesus2099/Chiptunes
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      • reosarevok
        lol
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      • jesus2099
        ;)
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      • jesus2099
        (descarga gratuita)
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: now a DR11 album http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=25… what’s your highest ? :)
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      • jesus2099
        highest/lowset
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: highest was 14, classical album
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: lowest was 5, one of my Perfume albums (I think the one I uploaded)
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      • jesus2099
        héhé :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I haven't scanned my whole collection though
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      • jesus2099
        of course not
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      • jesus2099
        I will not scan more than 2/3 albums now
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: I think you’re right about saying we should have new DB… should be based on Disc ID and MB stuff, etc…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        should at least be linked, yeah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I think we should probably collaborate with the people who set up the existing DB though
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      • jesus2099
        yes
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      • ianmcorvidae
        if nothing else, perhaps they still have all the logs for the things that have already been uploaded
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      • ianmcorvidae
        if so, that's a very nice chunk of seed data :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        though I'm sure most people in this channel would gladly run it on their entire collections, which would probably be even *more* data, so :P
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      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • ianmcorvidae
        reosarevok: dynamic range
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, yeah
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      • reosarevok
        That I know
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      • reosarevok
        But I never actually investigated what that all means
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      • ianmcorvidae
        someone developed a 1-20 scale, and tools to calculate it
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      • ianmcorvidae
        someone made a DB for it, but it's sorta not great
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      • reosarevok
        Apart from "loud bad, less loud less bad" :p
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      • ianmcorvidae
        kepstin put a page on the wiki about possibly trying to make an integration thing
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      • ianmcorvidae
        not so much 'less loud' as 'more range'
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it can still get loud, it just should *also* get soft
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      • juhae
        heh, that's a handy database. the next time people question my sanity for hunting old pressings of albums instead of "remasters", i can point people there...
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: when all the sound is goddam compressed
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      • jesus2099
        then for instance drums have less (no) impact
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      • juhae
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      • warp
        juhae: haha, nice
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: like on the radio for instance, you know they amplify (boost) sound maximum while compressing to achieve a wave form that is uniformly 99% (your song has transformed in a black rectangle)
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      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae: that sounds pretty nice
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      • reosarevok checks the wiki
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      • juhae
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      • jesus2099
        even in metal it’s not so good because the drums loose their impact if everything is around same volume
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      • jesus2099
        the bass becomes lost in sound too (it’s ok if the bassist sucks)
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      • reosarevok
        hahhahaha
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        I kinda suspect that's artist intent
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      • warp
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      • ianmcorvidae
        lol venetian snares
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, death magnetic
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      • warp
        haha reosarevok
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yup
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      • reosarevok
        18 *max*, I think 12 is more like it warp
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      • warp
        reosarevok: one track is 18
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, 12 is the number to quote for that album
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      • ianmcorvidae
        the 18 is nice and all, but for the overall link 12 is the number :P
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      • jesus2099
        strange I thought DR was the maximum http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?sort=dr…
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      • reosarevok
        Now, http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=11… is probably not artist intent
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      • reosarevok
        So, ouch
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      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: no, it's the average across the album, pretty much
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      • reosarevok
        wtf, 22?
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      • jesus2099
        but tracks are more than DR20 I thought it was max DR20 http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=48…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        wait, 22 shouldn't be possible
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      • reosarevok
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      • ianmcorvidae
        huh
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      • ianmcorvidae
        well, I guess they did well then :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, recording of speech
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      • ianmcorvidae
        that might explain it
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      • jesus2099
        they master their CD with knowledge of this DR scanner bugs or something
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      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: explain high score but how explain a score upper than specs’ maximum ?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        well, it could be the maximum of 20 isn't a real maximum, but just one that they derived from trying it on a lot of releases
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      • reosarevok
        The main problem with this thing is how to ensure people use the right remaster and stuff
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, a good amount of stuff I have, I don't really know which edition it is from :p
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      • reosarevok
        hahaha
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      • ianmcorvidae
        sure
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      • ianmcorvidae
        makes a better DB even more necessary
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      • reosarevok
        new xkcd is awesome
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      • reosarevok
        (as in, totally true)
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: use the catalogue number at least
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      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: that only works if you have the CD and not a download taken from god knows where :p
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      • jesus2099
        Or we might associate this stuff with fingerprints instead of MBID ?
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: don’t submit this kind, that’s all, only real stuff you have and know :) what’s the point in submitting unknown craps (often with tracks coming from singles and albums mixed etc. potentially)
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      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: sure, and I wouldn't, but avoiding people doing it might be harder than it should
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: ah yes, it’s the problem of all user contributed websites (like didcogs, wikipedia, MB, etc.) :/
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      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: those crap submits, ach, SHŌRYŪKEN IN DA FACE ! http://static-resource.np.community.playstation.n…
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      • reosarevok
        "submitting crap to databases, that's a paddlin"
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      • jesus2099
        what’s paddlin ?
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      • reosarevok
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      • jesus2099
        I can’t youtube here :/
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      • jesus2099
        ah ok :)
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      • jesus2099
        that’s a paddling = ROTATIVELOWKICKINDAFACE
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