the classical stuff only took a couple hours in part because of liberal application of userscripts -- those nice 9-artist ACs, creating works, linking works, etc.
2012-09-01 24520, 2012
reosarevok
come ooon
2012-09-01 24524, 2012
reosarevok
It's not that bad
2012-09-01 24526, 2012
reosarevok
20 min? sure
2012-09-01 24528, 2012
reosarevok
2 hours?
2012-09-01 24541, 2012
ianmcorvidae notes the 'if you're not reosarevok' comment earlier
2012-09-01 24501, 2012
reosarevok
What's the difference? Anyone can use scripts :p
2012-09-01 24527, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, but the rest of us don't have 10k edits a week of practice using them
2012-09-01 24540, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(and thus use them inefficiently)
2012-09-01 24508, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(helps that you're an AE, too, lets you do things like add all the tracks with the performers as an AE and then change the track artists back to the composers)
2012-09-01 24512, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(which I've seen you do :P)
2012-09-01 24511, 2012
hawke_
reosarevok: pong
2012-09-01 24521, 2012
hawke_
ianmcorvidae: you can just enter an edit to change the track artists, choose 'apply to recordings' and then cancel the medium edit.
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Lomaxx
regarding releases and discIDs. Are there really cases where a single release has more than one discID? I start to think that there are only releases with more than one discID in MBz because submitters don't realize it's a different release
2012-09-01 24554, 2012
_flow_
Lomaxx: Maybe but I imagine that it's hard to correct this if you don't hold all the cd's in hand
2012-09-01 24507, 2012
hawke_
Lomaxx: There are, but yes, MB has way more of them than there should be.
2012-09-01 24552, 2012
Lomaxx
hawke_, is there an easy example why some do really have?
does picard also deletes embedded art if clean tags is enabled?
2012-09-01 24524, 2012
hawke_
yes
2012-09-01 24526, 2012
uk
Lomaxx: Think of a new album by a major (really major) artist, expected to sell in the millions. For capacity reasons, the copies are made in parallel at different factories, each making its own (slightly different) master. Still, this could be considered "different" releases, in a sense.
2012-09-01 24551, 2012
Lomaxx
uk, i see
2012-09-01 24557, 2012
Lomaxx
beside all this, in the example of the CD I've been ripping, I am surprised that there is a US-version released almost 10 years after the one I am holding in my hand was produced.
2012-09-01 24559, 2012
Lomaxx
hm, am getting 502 Bad Gateway nginx/0.7.65 when trying to access musicbrainz.
2012-09-01 24526, 2012
MasterBob
you broke it
2012-09-01 24547, 2012
Lomaxx
That's what I can best.
2012-09-01 24559, 2012
MasterBob
But seriously likewise.
2012-09-01 24508, 2012
Lomaxx
I did?
2012-09-01 24539, 2012
MasterBob
All signs point to it being your fault. I was just about to do some editing. Thanks a bunch Lomaxx.
2012-09-01 24507, 2012
uk
:-)
2012-09-01 24513, 2012
Lomaxx
You're welcome.
2012-09-01 24538, 2012
uk
ocharles is already investigating over on #musicbrainz-devel.
2012-09-01 24538, 2012
noobie
the 502 is a known problem^^
2012-09-01 24528, 2012
MasterBob
OH-KAY!
2012-09-01 24551, 2012
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Lomaxx
Maybe I shouldn't have submitted a release named "Knock Out"
2012-09-01 24543, 2012
Lomaxx
or the release from the same artist named "Crash" =)
2012-09-01 24511, 2012
MasterBob
It had to be done Lomaxx.
2012-09-01 24542, 2012
xplt
Is it just for me, or MB constantly replies with "502 error"
2012-09-01 24547, 2012
Lomaxx
xplt, not only you
2012-09-01 24534, 2012
ocharles
I think it might be on the mend
2012-09-01 24538, 2012
xplt
I see; thanks
2012-09-01 24545, 2012
Lomaxx
It's MasterBob fault. I crashed the server because HE was editing a release. ;)
2012-09-01 24502, 2012
MasterBob
ABOUT TO! I was just about to do so!
2012-09-01 24503, 2012
MasterBob
Sheesh
2012-09-01 24508, 2012
Lomaxx
oh ok
2012-09-01 24510, 2012
xplt
lol
2012-09-01 24533, 2012
xplt
yay, MB is back!
2012-09-01 24527, 2012
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ocharles
i'd love to know wtf just happened
2012-09-01 24528, 2012
uk
Well, Lomaxx and MasterBob had an argument ...
2012-09-01 24530, 2012
uk
;-)
2012-09-01 24514, 2012
derwin
RAP SUX! METAL RULEZ
2012-09-01 24556, 2012
ocharles
emacs, vim, etc
2012-09-01 24529, 2012
MasterBob
we even hit on dubstep vs brostep at one point
2012-09-01 24503, 2012
derwin
mac vs pc
2012-09-01 24517, 2012
Lomaxx
amiga VS atari
2012-09-01 24504, 2012
MasterBob
1970 Bordeaux Merlot vs 1971 Bordeaux Merlot
2012-09-01 24546, 2012
noobie pokes bitmap
2012-09-01 24546, 2012
bitmap
noobie: hi
2012-09-01 24551, 2012
noobie
hey :)
2012-09-01 24523, 2012
noobie
just booted windows and realized the latest picard version on windows still does not allow custom tags
2012-09-01 24555, 2012
noobie
is this going to change ? :P
2012-09-01 24505, 2012
noobie
in upcoming releases
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noobie
i don't feel like building it from source :/
2012-09-01 24511, 2012
bitmap
is there a ticket for it? :) I remember it mentioned here before, but if there's not a ticket I usually forget about it
2012-09-01 24538, 2012
noobie
i don't know,i actually don't understand why it was disabled anyway
2012-09-01 24556, 2012
MasterBob
What custom tag do you want to add?
2012-09-01 24502, 2012
noobie
personally,i use a "style" tag
2012-09-01 24510, 2012
noobie
but it's rather a general question here
2012-09-01 24522, 2012
noobie
i modified it to work on linux
2012-09-01 24528, 2012
noobie
but i am too lazy to reboot^^
2012-09-01 24515, 2012
MasterBob
Okay. So then that helps you have playlists of similar styles of music?
2012-09-01 24548, 2012
noobie
it's rather for my music library - i like to have two genre fields
2012-09-01 24504, 2012
noobie
anyway,it's not a big deal - i just wondered why adding custom metadata was disabled
2012-09-01 24514, 2012
noobie
because it always worked until version 1.0
2012-09-01 24524, 2012
MasterBob
I was just curious, understanding other peoples categorization styles will help me improve my own
2012-09-01 24559, 2012
ocharles
i wonder if it's safe to announce that we're back
2012-09-01 24538, 2012
noobie
oh ok MasterBob
2012-09-01 24512, 2012
noobie
yeah i usually have 4 panes in my music library in the following order -> genre | style | albumarist | album
2012-09-01 24531, 2012
MasterBob
oh, so it's more it's analagous to subgenre?
2012-09-01 24500, 2012
noobie
yep
2012-09-01 24506, 2012
MasterBob
k. that makes sense
2012-09-01 24526, 2012
noobie
if you just have 1 genre pane there alike 50 different genres,which is quite a mess
2012-09-01 24541, 2012
noobie
especially for electronic music
2012-09-01 24556, 2012
derwin buys a bunch of .wavs from discogs digital (probably reselling juno?) ... they have no meta info..
2012-09-01 24506, 2012
derwin immediately compresses to flac.. deletes the wavs.. and tags..
2012-09-01 24511, 2012
derwin
the future is ridiculous.
2012-09-01 24511, 2012
noobie
disappointing
2012-09-01 24523, 2012
derwin
also, the .wavs cost more than the vinyl would cost
2012-09-01 24525, 2012
derwin
to have shipped from the UK
2012-09-01 24529, 2012
derwin
to california
2012-09-01 24534, 2012
MasterBob
wat
2012-09-01 24547, 2012
derwin
.wav version on discogs digital = $22
2012-09-01 24551, 2012
derwin
CD version on discogs = $8
2012-09-01 24551, 2012
noobie
how does the shipping of digital files cost more ?
2012-09-01 24557, 2012
derwin
noobie: it's the future.
2012-09-01 24558, 2012
noobie
nvm :D
2012-09-01 24501, 2012
derwin
also, I can't resell my .wavs.
2012-09-01 24510, 2012
derwin
when I'm done with them!
2012-09-01 24513, 2012
derwin
the future is awesome!
2012-09-01 24525, 2012
derwin
I can't imagine why people don't buy more music.
2012-09-01 24534, 2012
noobie
i was jsut about to say that
2012-09-01 24543, 2012
MasterBob
People do buy tons of music
2012-09-01 24506, 2012
noobie
and people copy tons of music
2012-09-01 24550, 2012
derwin
but yeah, I'm not getting the whole music got less useful and more expensive
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xplt_
derwin: $22 for a release? omg. How many tracks does it have?!
2012-09-01 24536, 2012
MasterBob
Wouldn't a better question be how long is the whole release?
2012-09-01 24552, 2012
xplt_
no
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_5moufl
18°06'14" hawke_> yes << and how can I avoid that?
the version I hold at hand has the label "tomato" but a different barcode than both listed releases
2012-09-01 24533, 2012
Lomaxx
still it has the cat# of the inak-release
2012-09-01 24511, 2012
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Lomaxx
and both listed releases show 5 different discIDs which are the same for both releases.
2012-09-01 24530, 2012
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Lomaxx
Now I could make another release just to bring in my version of the barcode, which confuses someone who tried to identify his disk via discID and is left with three versions which are more or less all the same.
2012-09-01 24503, 2012
Lomaxx
or i could edit one of the existing releases with the effect that probably sooner or later someone will re-edit it again.
2012-09-01 24557, 2012
Lomaxx
I wonder if it wouldn't be better to strictly define that one release can only have one discID even if there are releases which overlap 100% in all data.
2012-09-01 24523, 2012
Lomaxx
not sure. I got too few experience for that
2012-09-01 24543, 2012
CallerNo6
Lomaxx: I consider a different barcode to be a different release generally.
2012-09-01 24522, 2012
CallerNo6
In a couple cases, I have a disc with two barcodes, which I entered as separate releases.
