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      • nikki
        I have three copies, it seems :P
      • 2012-11-17 32249, 2012

      • Freso
        I know CatCat got three copies and that there was at least one copy left on the schwag table.
      • 2012-11-17 32200, 2012

      • kepstin
        i must have forgotten mine :(
      • 2012-11-17 32214, 2012

      • Freso
        :/
      • 2012-11-17 32230, 2012

      • Freso
        I'll... get and save one for you for next year? :p
      • 2012-11-17 32236, 2012

      • kepstin
        heh, sure.
      • 2012-11-17 32227, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I know there's a rip of it on your external drive
      • 2012-11-17 32236, 2012

      • kepstin
        yeah.
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      • kepstin
        man, live should be a recording property, not a recording-work relationship property.
      • 2012-11-17 32209, 2012

      • kepstin
        what does it mean if a recording is a performance of multiple works, but only a live performance of one but not the other?
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      • CallerNo6
        performance with prepared tape loop?
      • 2012-11-17 32240, 2012

      • kepstin has generally been considering a recording of playback of a prepared recording in front of an audience as live
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      • kepstin
        https://musicbrainz.org/work/5e0a765d-44ed-42fb-9… - there we go, disambiguation commentify all the live recordings :)
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      • kepstin thinks that all the non-live ones are actually the same recording.
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      • uk
        Hrm ... Separate releases for a physical CD and its (iTunes/Amazon) download? (No bonus tracks or other differences.)
      • 2012-11-17 32216, 2012

      • kepstin
        uk: yep.
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      • uk is pondering how to easiest make the separately-entered Digital Media version reuse the existing recordings. Merge, then add again using "based on CD release"?
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      • kepstin
        merging then adding again is evil, because it'll make everyone who has already tagged have the wrong mbids.
      • 2012-11-17 32236, 2012

      • uk
        Or first add again, then merge into that?
      • 2012-11-17 32252, 2012

      • kepstin
        you could just merge the recordings.
      • 2012-11-17 32258, 2012

      • uk
        Yes, that's probably better.
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      • kepstin
        jesus2099 has a userscript that can do recording merges between two otherwise identical releases in one step
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      • kepstin
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      • uk
        Thanks, will look into that.
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      • LordSputnik
        If I merge two releases and their recordings, and a recording artist doesn't match, what happens to that recording?
      • 2012-11-17 32215, 2012

      • kepstin
        it gets merged.
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      • kepstin
        (the final recording will have the artist, titles, etc. from the target recording)
      • 2012-11-17 32206, 2012

      • LordSputnik
        right ok
      • 2012-11-17 32211, 2012

      • LordSputnik
        thanks :)
      • 2012-11-17 32213, 2012

      • kepstin
        man, I wish people would be less inconsistent about song titles like https://musicbrainz.org/work/149db625-58bb-4052-a…
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      • ianweller
        at least nobody's confused 'meridian' for 'median' yet
      • 2012-11-17 32208, 2012

      • kepstin corrected a typo where some wrote 'hundreth' instead of 'hundredth'
      • 2012-11-17 32210, 2012

      • kepstin
        hmm, I used a search on the keyword 'meridian' to find those, I would have missed one if it used 'median' instead :)
      • 2012-11-17 32230, 2012

      • uk
        Regarding the mass-merge userscript, it is shown as active on the tracklist page by Greasemonkey, but there is nothing in the sidebar.
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      • uk
        What does "You need to activate ratings for this script to work." mean?
      • 2012-11-17 32205, 2012

      • uk
        (Ratings are shown, though there are none on this particular release.)
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      • reosarevok_
        Some people have ratings hidden
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      • reosarevok_
        If so, it won't work
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      • uk
        OK, I don't. But it still does not work. ;-)
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      • reosarevok_
        Dunno, it works for me in Chrome but I don't know about FF
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      • kepstin
        I don't have it enabled right now, but I know that it used to work on firefox :/
      • 2012-11-17 32224, 2012

      • uk restarts the browser, just in case.
      • 2012-11-17 32259, 2012

      • uk
        No success.
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      • kovacsur
        anything in the console?
      • 2012-11-17 32232, 2012

      • uk
        Ah, yes: Not enough arguments [nsIDOMCSSStyleDeclaration.setProperty] (at line 363 of the userscript).
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      • kovacsur
        uk: looks like this is related to a bug in FF that was fixed a while ago, what version are you using?
      • 2012-11-17 32209, 2012

      • function1
        if a recording is not associated with any track/release, will it be removed automatically? just found out from liner notes that a recording is the same as that on another release, so i changed the track/recording association
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      • uk
        Debian testing (Iceweasel). However, I think I got it fixed now.
      • 2012-11-17 32225, 2012

      • kepstin
        function1: no. recordings are not automatically removed
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      • kovacsur
        cool. :)
      • 2012-11-17 32236, 2012

      • kepstin
        function1: you should manually merge that leftover recording.
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      • uk
        Added a bunch of "" third arguments to all setProperty() calls.
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      • uk
        At least the interface appears now; let's see if it works.
      • 2012-11-17 32209, 2012

      • function1
        kepstin: ah, merge. i tried to delete, but was still associated with track since edit hasnt passed yet
      • 2012-11-17 32236, 2012

      • kepstin
        function1: don't delete things! then if someone has that mbid and tries to look up using it, it won't work!
      • 2012-11-17 32239, 2012

      • kepstin
        always merge if you can.
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      • function1
        kepstin: k. i added the release and new recording just a week ago. i suppose i should try not to fill the db with dupes as well :)
      • 2012-11-17 32210, 2012

      • kepstin
        function1: you could really have fixed this in one edit by just merging the recordings from the start, of course.
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      • CallerNo6
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      • function1
        i just cancelled the afformentioned edit, and am merging as you say. have i messed anything up?
      • 2012-11-17 32256, 2012

      • kepstin
        function1: that should work fine.
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      • uk
        The userscript successfully submitted three recording merges. Now it seems to hang, but I'll be patient. ;-)
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      • reosarevok_
        It can be slow
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      • function1
        kepstin: now... should i add relations to the old recording or the new recording? given the chronology of the edits (merge then add relationships), will everything work out okay? seems pedantically proper to add relationships to the redundant recording that i created
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      • reosarevok_
        function1: wherever you add them, they'll end up on the merged recording
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      • function1
        mkay
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      • reosarevok_
        So it barely matters
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      • kepstin
        hmm, so relationship apply edits still work if the thing you're adding the relationship has been merged in the meantime?
      • 2012-11-17 32207, 2012

      • kepstin
        That used to cause them to fail...
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      • reosarevok_
        Pretty sure they work, yes
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      • reosarevok_
        I seem to remember we adding some dupes because of that and hawke being irritated :p
      • 2012-11-17 32205, 2012

      • reosarevok_
        *us
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      • uk
        OK, so it worked after all. Thanks everyone!
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      • reosarevok_
        np!
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      • reosarevok_
        Go fix more stuff! :D
      • 2012-11-17 32211, 2012

      • reosarevok_
        (oh god I'm turning into noobie :D )
      • 2012-11-17 32246, 2012

      • reosarevok_
        Go fix more stuff! with a very serious and not smily face.
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      • Freso
        :D
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      • Freso
        The grave Spanestonien is loosening up!
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      • LordSputnik
        adding 13 mediums and their recordings is not fun. D:
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      • Freso
        LordSputnik: + works, disc ids, ISRCs, AcoustIDs, work relationships, recording relationships, release relationships, release group relationships, artist relationships for all involved artists, ...
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      • LordSputnik
        all of that's done besides the disc ids :)
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      • LordSputnik
        and ISRCs because there are none and it's pointless anyway
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      • Freso
        Pointless for you, perhaps.
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      • LordSputnik
        Pointless in general because they're not done properly :P
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      • Freso
        Henrik from Spotify noted that ISRCs were one of the criteria they matched against, and they're useful to provide hints about duplicate recordings.
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      • LordSputnik
        only if they've been correctly assigned and are known :P
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      • LordSputnik
        anyway, isrcs aren't known in this case, unless I can get them off the discs (which I haven't tried)
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      • Freso
        LordSputnik: isrcsubmit.py is great for that.
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      • Freso
        That's the only way I enter ISRCs.
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      • LordSputnik
        I'll look it up :)
      • 2012-11-17 32229, 2012

      • LordSputnik
        although it'll probably give me the wrong ISRCs, since theyr'e remasters :P
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      • Freso
        It'll use whatever ISRCs are on the disc.
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      • LordSputnik
        exactly :P
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      • ianweller
        what should i fix on musicbrainz today, i'm bored
      • 2012-11-17 32213, 2012

      • Freso
        Hm. I guess I have another RFV that has passed by now.
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      • Freso
        We need a "random artist" function.
      • 2012-11-17 32211, 2012

      • Freso
        To help ianweller with his woes.
      • 2012-11-17 32216, 2012

      • ianweller
        yeah
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      • ianweller
        :)
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      • Freso
        Or "random release"
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      • ianweller
        because i bet you 8 times out of 10 artist pages could be fixed up a bunch
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      • Freso
        Or generally "random entity".
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      • ianweller
        i still haven't finished merging all of OK Go's recordings
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      • Freso
        Yep.
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      • ianweller
        (that need merged, that is)
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      • kepstin
        hmm. scan cleanups complete - and caa is even more down than it was when i started.
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      • Freso
        ianweller: There you "go"! Now "go" merge! :p
      • 2012-11-17 32208, 2012

      • ianweller
        ok, go!
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      • kepstin
        ok, now go merge?
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      • Freso
        nikki: Are there tickets for somehow going to "random $entity"?
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      • Freso
        ianweller: :)
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      • ianweller
        i cannot find any record of this existing on the internet http://musicbrainz.org/release/da1f0e9f-d77e-463e…
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      • ianweller considers emailing the band
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      • Freso
        Do it!
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      • Freso considers starting last.fm scrobbling again
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      • kepstin
        hmm. tagging opus files in picard only works on my laptop, where I have the unreleased version of mutagen that's required installed :/
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      • kovacsur
        ianweller, http://okgo.net/forum/ok-go/we-have-gmail/ : "As of right now the gmail account has Appendices, Six Song Demo [�]"
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      • ianweller
        kovacsur: aha
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      • ianweller
        i remember that now
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      • Freso
        I have an artist which should be split.
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      • Freso
        None of the two endpoints currently exist on their own.
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      • nikki
        Freso: no
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      • Freso
        Would it be bad karma to make one of the new ones, rename the current "bogus" artist (without renaming ACs), and then fix the AC?
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      • Freso
        nikki: ? :p
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      • ianweller
        Freso: 21:07 < Freso> nikki: Are there tickets for somehow going to "random $entity"?
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      • Freso
        Ah.
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      • Freso
        That makes sense.
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      • Freso
        So if I wait another hour and a half, perhaps she'll answer this question too... hm.
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      • ianweller
        hey that was only half an hour :)
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      • Freso
        ianweller: Oh, right. You're an hour behind.
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      • ianweller
        well, more, but my IRC is in UTC
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      • Freso
        :)
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      • CatCat
        this machine is slowly exploding
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      • CatCat
        :/