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      • kepstin has some work merging to do there, too.
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      • ianweller
        laskjdflsdjfk
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      • ianweller attempts to argue with jesus2099
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      • kepstin hits save on ~16k files in picard and waits
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      • kepstin
        it's managing around 15-20 files per second over nfs, which doesn't seem that bad :)
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      • kepstin
        using nearly 200mbit/s of network tho :)
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      • kepstin
        (the files are all flac)
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      • Lotheric
        502 Bad Gateway
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      • kepstin
        Lotheric: what were you doing?
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      • Lotheric
        editing a release group name
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      • kepstin
        hmm :/
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      • Lotheric
        changing ... for �
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      • ianmcorvidae
        statistics is running
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      • kepstin
        ah, it's 502 o'clock?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        haven't had any damn time to figure out why that causes 502s
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, statistics got moved an hour later, and the 502s went with it :P
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      • kepstin wonders if running the statistics off a mirrored db would help alleviate the pain
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      • ianmcorvidae
        not all of them can even be run there, but it might help
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I don't know what's causing the problem though, so I can't really say
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      • ianweller edit-note refutes no-votes
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      • kepstin
        hmm, why are there some that can't be done on a mirror?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it seems like it must be related to the edit- or editor-related stats though, which certainly couldn't be run on a mirror
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      • ianmcorvidae
        because there are things that don't get mirrored :)
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      • kepstin
        well, there are workarounds for that :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
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      • ianmcorvidae
        anyway, the main issue is that other than it being statistics I don't think we understand what's causing the issues
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      • ianmcorvidae
        so
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      • kepstin
        yeah, all we know is that the statistics running causes some edits (database modifications) to take a long time :/
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      • Lotheric listens to: Public Enemy - You�re Gonna Get Yours (Terminator X Getaway mix).mp3
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      • Lotheric
        My '98 Oldsmobile is... 502n'
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      • kepstin
        it probably would make sense to use postgres's streaming replication to set up a warm backup db server anyways, tho.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        we have one, actually
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      • kepstin
        well, run the stats on that, then ;)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        so yeah, you're right we could probably run stats on that :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        looking at locks now on one transaction that suspiciously looks like it must be stats given the gigantic number of AccessShareLock it has
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      • kepstin
        well, big read queries for stats would have shared locks - which presumably conflict with the non-shared locks needed for writes?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        shouldn't, because of MVCC
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      • Lotheric
        kepstin: my edit passed just now
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      • kepstin reads the postgres concurrency control docs
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      • ianmcorvidae
        access share conflicts with access exclusive only
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (which you have to explicitly ask for in most cases; only alter/drop table, truncate, reindex, cluster, and vacuum full get it automatically)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, the only non-access-share lock it had when I looked was on the statistic table, which is quite fine :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        except for some row locks
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (on dbmirror_pending, it seems)
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      • kepstin
        'Remember that all of these lock modes are table-level locks, even if the name contains the word "row"'
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm, so I guess it could be the dbmirror_pending row-exclusive locks
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      • ianmcorvidae
        except edits and editors won't conflict there
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      • kepstin
        but yeah, the 'row exclusive' lock (acquired by any command that modifies data in a table) only conflicts with 'share' (create index) and a few types that are only used manually
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • kepstin
        which means that if a write is failing, then either an index is being created on a table that it's modifying, or some code is manually locking things :/
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • kepstin
        or just that the db can't keep up with the load on it, which seems somewhat unlikely
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      • ianmcorvidae leaves a note to myself to submit an edit and then dump pg_locks (and whatever else might help, wonder if I can determine what pid something's waiting on...) while it's 502ing :P
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      • kepstin uploads the popular cover art for the unmastered version of californication, and now it's quite easily visible on http://mbjs.kepstin.ca/?release-group=ca5dfcc3-83fb-3eee-9061-c27296b77b2c :)
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      • kepstin
        I didn't realize it until just now, but it actually says '-UNMASTERED VIRSION-' on it instead of version :/
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      • VxJasonxV
        lol
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      • VxJasonxV
        also, where?
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      • VxJasonxV
        that's an awesome cover misprint
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      • kepstin-laptop
        well, it's a cover for a bootleg that someone hacked together with a couple minutes of photoshop
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      • kepstin-laptop
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      • kepstin-laptop
        they didn't even match the font up correctly, the used Arial when they should have used Helvetica :)
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      • VxJasonxV
        oh
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      • VxJasonxV
        lame
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      • kepstin-laptop
        the actual bootleg is, as far as anyone knows, a leak of a the album from inside the record label
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      • kepstin-laptop
        although the leaked version wasn't released until after the album itself, in response to outcry against the poor mastering job :/
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      • kepstin-laptop really wants to put a search box on mbjs.kepstin.ca, but the non-advanced search isn't available on the api :/
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      • kepstin-laptop
        although I could probably do some trick where I talk to search.musicbrainz.org "directly" (via my nginx proxy, of course)
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      • nikki
        does anyone know m___ah?
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      • Mineo
        the name rings a bell, but no
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      • nikki
        they're one of the people with nearly 30,000 open edits
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      • Mineo
        yikes :)
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      • Mineo
        wow, that's like 20 albums with full credits per day
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      • drsaunde
        i'm going thru those edits too for wikipedia links on releases :-(
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      • drsaunde
        taking forever
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      • nikki nods
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      • nikki
        that's what made me look at their edits
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      • drsaunde
        discogs links seems to be added without care for whether they match versions
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      • nikki sighs
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      • nikki
        I found one edit where they linked to a discogs search results page, which is bad enough, but then an auto-editor voted yes to adding it
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      • murdos
        who?
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      • ianweller
        jesus2099 wants other opinions on this edit: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20310357
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      • ianweller
        (and while we're at it, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20310349)
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      • nikki
        haha. a balloon is not a variation of a catw
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      • ianweller
        good, someone liked my nonsequitur analogy
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      • CatCat
        is CatCat variation of catw?
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      • Munger
        Anyone seen/heard from LordSputnik recently?
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      • ianweller
        Munger: lordsputnik has open edits from yesterday
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      • ianweller
        IRC was disconnected 11 hours, 23 minutes ago (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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      • Munger
        Ah, OK. I'll drop him an email then. Didn't wan to hassle him ov xmas
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      • ianweller
        email is nicely deferrable if you are on holiday :)
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      • nikki
        LordSputnik: Munger was looking for you
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      • Munger
        Dang! There goes the element of surprise :-)
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      • LordSputnik
        nikki: I was about to say who's Munger :P
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      • LordSputnik
        what's up? :)
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      • nikki
        :P
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      • Munger
        I just pulled you mb-masstagger and it doesn't seem to do anything. Of course I'm doing something wrong, but I wondered if you had any starter hints
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      • LordSputnik
        right ok
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      • LordSputnik
        have you edited the options file?
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      • Munger
        I edited options.default and simply launched warp.py
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      • Munger
        (after making it executable)
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      • LordSputnik
        ok, what platform are you on?
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      • Munger
        Linux
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      • LordSputnik
        ok, can you pastebin the options file you have?
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      • LordSputnik
        and also the output of the script
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      • Munger
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      • Munger
        There is no output. It just seems to hang
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      • LordSputnik
        that's weird
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      • Munger
        I simpy pointed it at a single artist for test purposes
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      • LordSputnik
        so /Volumes/Shared/Music/10cc definitely exists already?
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      • Munger
        Yes
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      • Munger
        No permissions problems
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      • LordSputnik
        ok, may ask you to add a few lines to print out stuff if that's alright
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      • Munger
        n/p
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      • LordSputnik
        so it doesn't print out "MusicBrainz Warp - 0.1 ..."?
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      • Munger
        Nope
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      • LordSputnik
        oh that's really strange
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      • LordSputnik
        that's the first thing it does
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      • LordSputnik
        this is python 2.7?