(the cleanup script waits until at least 24 hours after the last edit affecting the artist has closed before deleting the artist)
2013-01-02 00219, 2013
function1
wish it was longer
2013-01-02 00222, 2013
hawke_1
reosarevok: Certainly seems like a small ensemble.
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reosarevok
function1: surely 24 h is enough time to find somewhere to use the artist on, or a URL to link it to?
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reosarevok
(I mean, I assume you found the artist somewhere :) )
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function1
yeah i have to add 50+ artists for this box set
2013-01-02 00212, 2013
function1
maybe i want add the release later
2013-01-02 00213, 2013
kepstin-work
you can add artists in the release editor as you add the disks.
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Freso
kepstin-work: But that doesn't allow you to set artist type, start/end dates, country or gender.
2013-01-02 00206, 2013
kepstin-work
well, you can do that later.
2013-01-02 00234, 2013
Freso
Sure, but if you do it when you add them, you don't forget or otherwise miss any. :)
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kepstin-work
true :)
2013-01-02 00255, 2013
kepstin-work usually adds artists before using them.
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function1
i was advised to enter artists first. also, what Freso said. once i had to re-enter everything 3 times because of server errors. long release, ended up adding mediums as separate edits
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kepstin-work
i.e. I have the release editor open in one tab, and add artists in another tab, then paste the mbids into the release editor :)
2013-01-02 00252, 2013
reosarevok
Yep, that's how I do it too
2013-01-02 00249, 2013
kepstin-work
that mbid pasting feature graduating from being a userscript to being in the server proper was nice :)
2013-01-02 00258, 2013
hawke_1
reosarevok: That brings us back to the question of: when it’s an ensemble taken from some larger group, is that a new artist or is it still the larger group (I mean, we probably wouldn’t make a separate artist if the second violinist was off sick that day for some recording, even if we knew). The other place I saw this is stuff like “The ladies of the ambrosian chorus”
2013-01-02 00215, 2013
reosarevok
Well, it depends I guess
2013-01-02 00227, 2013
reosarevok
Most cases I've seen that, it is a proper subgroup they use more than once
2013-01-02 00245, 2013
reosarevok
But yeah, I wouldn't create a new artist for stuff like "string section" or "women of the choir"
2013-01-02 00206, 2013
kepstin-work
we need a new artist-artist ar for 'is a sub/super-group of" then :)
2013-01-02 00220, 2013
kepstin-work could see other cases where this would be useful as well
2013-01-02 00225, 2013
nikki
h!p :P
2013-01-02 00231, 2013
nikki
akb48...
2013-01-02 00239, 2013
kepstin-work
yes, those other cases :)
2013-01-02 00258, 2013
reosarevok
But those are actual *groups*
2013-01-02 00212, 2013
kepstin-work
AKB48 Team A is a subgroup of AKB48
2013-01-02 00220, 2013
reosarevok
(same as, for example, "Die 12 Cellisten der Berliner Philharmoniker")
2013-01-02 00252, 2013
kepstin-work
they're up to, what, 4 teams plus the training members in AKB48 now?
2013-01-02 00206, 2013
reosarevok
(which are an established entity that performs as itself, as opposed to "the women sections of our choir since this is a work for women choir")
Replacing small with big, large, orig, original, thumb, and simply removing it doesn't give a large image. Neither Google Images nor TinEye yield anything either.
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nikki
what release is it?
2013-01-02 00220, 2013
Freso
nikki: "Funk, Vol. 3" or "Funk / Hip Hop, Vol. 3" - it isn't entered yet.
Also, man, Dutch and German sometimes look alike. I could've sworn the text on the medium was German, but actually reading it, "voorbehouden" doesn't look very German. :p
It should couple up their "Linked Data" with MB data though. :p
2013-01-02 00254, 2013
reosarevok
Freso: worldcat can be linked from MB btw, it's in the otherdbs thing
2013-01-02 00259, 2013
LordSputnik
nikki: I did, but then I saw the pictures to be processed :P
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Freso
reosarevok: Nice. I'll do that. \o/
2013-01-02 00204, 2013
derwin
dutch = german spoken with a mouth full of marbles
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Freso
Hm. I just added a new Work for the Aerosmith+Run-DMC version of Walk This Way, but that one really isn't much changed from the Aerosmith version and certainly not enough to warrant a new version by normal standards.
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Freso
However, it seems like all subsequent covers are of the Aerosmith+Run-DMC version rather than the Aerosmith-only version, and we don't really have a way to indicate that apart from through Work relationships, do we?
2013-01-02 00225, 2013
hawke_1
Anybody here know Swedish?
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hawke_1
Freso: Why would they be separate works?
2013-01-02 00208, 2013
nikki
how much swedish?
2013-01-02 00226, 2013
Freso
hawke_1: To indicate cover of cover relationships.
hawke_1: Aerosmith releases "Walk This Way" in 197x, then they do a collaboration with Run-D.M.C.
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Freso
So far so good.
2013-01-02 00257, 2013
hawke_1
Freso: Yep.
2013-01-02 00200, 2013
Freso
However.
2013-01-02 00233, 2013
Freso
Following this, there are at least two covers of the Run-DMC+Aerosmith version; Sum 41+some rappers and Sugababes+Girls something.
2013-01-02 00218, 2013
Freso
And thus, those two would be "cover of cover".
2013-01-02 00240, 2013
nikki
hawke_1: anything in particular? it doesn't look all that complicated
2013-01-02 00254, 2013
nikki
I imagine Freso can understand it :P
2013-01-02 00258, 2013
Freso
Oh, yeah, I'm down with Swedish. Sorry hawke_1, didn't see you asking. I was deep into my own little thinking zone box.
2013-01-02 00256, 2013
Freso
hawke_1: What do you need translated?
2013-01-02 00242, 2013
Freso
hawke_1: "Arrangemang" = arrangement, "instrumentering" = instrumentation, "damkör" is some kind of choir, "flöjt" is flute (most likely a transverse one), "oboe" is oboe, "soloklarinett" is a solo clarinet, "klarinet" is "clarinet", ...
2013-01-02 00255, 2013
Freso
Want me to continue? :p
2013-01-02 00208, 2013
nikki
is slagverk drums?
2013-01-02 00256, 2013
Freso
Percussion.
2013-01-02 00208, 2013
Freso
Trommer or trummer or something would be drums.
2013-01-02 00212, 2013
nikki
ah
2013-01-02 00238, 2013
Freso
"Slagverk" is literally "things for hitting"
2013-01-02 00243, 2013
nikki
yeah
2013-01-02 00239, 2013
nikki
I assumed it was probably related to schlagzeug
2013-01-02 00244, 2013
Freso
"Inspelad" = recorded, in Hemsjö Church and Artisten in Göteborg.
2013-01-02 00201, 2013
Freso
mixad - mixed, mastrad - mastered
2013-01-02 00209, 2013
Freso
Omslag - cover
2013-01-02 00222, 2013
nikki
is damkör a female choir?
2013-01-02 00234, 2013
Freso
Ah, yes, probably. :)
2013-01-02 00240, 2013
Freso
"Damekor"
2013-01-02 00258, 2013
Freso
("Dam" in Danish is a pond, so I don't always catch that at first.)
2013-01-02 00204, 2013
nikki
ah, heh
2013-01-02 00219, 2013
Freso
"1997 bildade Leif Strand en sångensemble som just nu består av 16 kvinnor."
2013-01-02 00259, 2013
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Freso
"[In] 1997 Leif Strand (started? built?) a singing ensemble that currently (lit., "right now") consists of 16 women."
