Ich möchte mich nicht für eine Fehlermeldung anmelden, und mach daher vom Angebot gebrauch mich hier zu melden...
2013-01-03 00352, 2013
mumu_
Ich nute gerade Musicbrainzp... unter Linux Mint14. Und stelle fest, das ich leider den Optionen Dialog nicht bedienen kann. Die Spalte mit den Beschreibungen läßt sich nicht vergrößern?!
2013-01-03 00359, 2013
mumu_
Ist das bekannt?
2013-01-03 00326, 2013
nikki
hmm... welche version von picard?
2013-01-03 00311, 2013
warp
Mint 14 is based on Ubuntu 12.10, so I would guess the same version Ubuntu ships in 12.10.
Krystof: What does "Juillet a Tahiti" mean? "Juillet of/from Tahiti"?
2013-01-03 00343, 2013
Krystof
in
2013-01-03 00352, 2013
Krystof
July in Tahiti
2013-01-03 00302, 2013
Krystof
well, assuming that it's à Tahiti
2013-01-03 00302, 2013
Freso
Ah.
2013-01-03 00310, 2013
Krystof
otherwise it means "July has Tahiti"
2013-01-03 00322, 2013
Freso
It might be! :D
2013-01-03 00355, 2013
Freso
There's no accents on the cover,
2013-01-03 00300, 2013
Krystof
wow, the power of procrastination. I'm meant to be writing exams; instead I'm speculatively translating French titles on IRC
2013-01-03 00302, 2013
Freso
But then, there are *no* accents on the cover.
2013-01-03 00317, 2013
nikki
it is all caps?
2013-01-03 00332, 2013
reosarevok
Krystof: so you'll write them in a hurry and annoyed and be cruel? :p
2013-01-03 00332, 2013
Freso
Wait, no, there's one.
2013-01-03 00310, 2013
Krystof
conventionally in French, you don't put accents on capitals
2013-01-03 00323, 2013
Krystof
if this is Dream Island and the Amazon listings are accurate (hah), the A is capitalised
2013-01-03 00326, 2013
nikki
I thought that was jsut because they can't type them
2013-01-03 00344, 2013
Krystof
it can be a historically-contingent convention
2013-01-03 00301, 2013
reosarevok
Dunno. There was a time when Spanish kids were taught not do put accents on capitals either
2013-01-03 00313, 2013
Krystof
now you're going to distract me from my exams to make me find out when the Académie documented the rule
2013-01-03 00327, 2013
reosarevok
But I'm not sure if it was a real *rule*, or more that teachers saw it wasn't printed and assumed that was the case :p
2013-01-03 00346, 2013
Freso
Krystof: Does "D.P." mean anything specific? Domain publique?
2013-01-03 00347, 2013
reosarevok
(at some point the academy was like "meh, this is silly. CAPITALS WITH ACCENTS, guys!"
2013-01-03 00350, 2013
reosarevok
)
2013-01-03 00354, 2013
nikki
ooh. I managed to install 1.0 and it really is a mess. the 1.1 ppa works fine as far as I can tell, but I'm still too late >_<
2013-01-03 00303, 2013
Krystof
reosarevok: yeah, france too. "On ne peut que déplorer que l'usage des accents sur les majuscules soit flottant."
2013-01-03 00312, 2013
Krystof
Freso: no idea, I just play a Frenchman on the Internet
2013-01-03 00317, 2013
Krystof
context?
2013-01-03 00349, 2013
Krystof
(I am a French native speaker, but I have lived in Francophone countries for about a total of 8 weeks. YMMV, etc)
2013-01-03 00352, 2013
Freso
Krystof: It is. :) E.g., "Kava, Aparima vava (Trad) D.P." - Kava is the title, "Aparima vava" seems to be the song/tune type, Trad. is the composer/writer, "D.P." seems to be the copyright notice (e.g., "SACEM P.1986" on the first track).
2013-01-03 00329, 2013
Krystof
I've never seen it before, sorry
2013-01-03 00330, 2013
Freso
Krystof: The "D.P." only seems to appear on trad. tunes/songs, hence why I figure it may mean public domain. :)
2013-01-03 00304, 2013
Freso
(Also, the cover art on Amazon is wrong - don't upload it.)
2013-01-03 00308, 2013
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2013-01-03 00330, 2013
CatCat
adhawkins: "derp.co.uk" or was it.
2013-01-03 00352, 2013
adhawkins
Ah ok. That's not mine, just one I found for googling an image pastebin
2013-01-03 00347, 2013
CatCat
aha
2013-01-03 00344, 2013
nikki is pondering proposing something like http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Nikki/Compilation_Relationship_Type (the recording stuff already exists, the release group stuff is what I would be proposing)
2013-01-03 00311, 2013
Freso
reoafk: Do you know if there's a way to tell worldcat that they have several entities for the same thing?
2013-01-03 00327, 2013
nikki
I basically want a relationship for saying something like "foo and bar were in this boxset" :P
2013-01-03 00355, 2013
CatCat
nikki: the latter, very much
2013-01-03 00357, 2013
CatCat
i agree
2013-01-03 00303, 2013
CatCat
i wish we had a better way of doing it
2013-01-03 00310, 2013
CatCat
but yes, a relationship the very least
2013-01-03 00326, 2013
CatCat
i mean we did this for discs of a release earlier
2013-01-03 00330, 2013
CatCat
before ngs
2013-01-03 00359, 2013
Freso
Yeah.
2013-01-03 00305, 2013
nikki
and since the compilation relationship is basically "recording foo / bar is recording foo and recording bar", then it makes sense to use the same thing for "release group foo / bar is release group foo and release group bar"
2013-01-03 00317, 2013
Freso
Once we get boxset support proper, relationships like that will help the transition.
2013-01-03 00311, 2013
nikki
Freso: well, I don't have a problem with them being separate release groups, I just want links between them :P
2013-01-03 00355, 2013
CatCat
Freso / nikki: at the very least links between them yea
2013-01-03 00306, 2013
nikki
and I wouldn't want release groups for boxsets to vanish, I'd rather have a boxset release group type
2013-01-03 00315, 2013
CatCat nods
2013-01-03 00305, 2013
CatCat
and and oh god, some sort of edit to split discs up into several releases, especially for releases that were incorrectly merged in ngs
2013-01-03 00320, 2013
CatCat
a reverse merge
2013-01-03 00322, 2013
CatCat
hmm
2013-01-03 00358, 2013
CatCat
if we had that, merges (that didn't smelt together discs, just appended mediums) could be an auto edit too
2013-01-03 00328, 2013
CatCat
hmm
2013-01-03 00336, 2013
Freso
CatCat: NES \o/
2013-01-03 00300, 2013
nikki
merges are still destructive though, even the append ones lose all the stuff like release name, release artist, barcode, country, etc
2013-01-03 00317, 2013
CatCat
i guess "merge" not smelt, but i am so used ot use the word "merge" for merge type dits that it doesn't mean "put togheter so you can't tell it was two distinct things before" to me anymore
2013-01-03 00334, 2013
CatCat
lose all the stuff like release name, release artist, barcode, country, etc <-- this is a problem i think
2013-01-03 00350, 2013
CatCat
Freso: yes
2013-01-03 00352, 2013
CatCat
i don't know
2013-01-03 00353, 2013
Freso
Again, NES \o/
2013-01-03 00317, 2013
Freso
One of the features of NES will be allowing to undo merges.
2013-01-03 00337, 2013
CatCat
git or whatever. the idea of ahavign "editions" or "versions" were yo ucan pick and choose of changed history and have the bits that are correct/seen as most correct /whatever
2013-01-03 00344, 2013
CatCat
i am startign to like this idea more and more
2013-01-03 00305, 2013
Freso
CatCat: What does git have to do with this? :p
2013-01-03 00314, 2013
nikki
NES is based on git
2013-01-03 00331, 2013
Freso
Nice.
2013-01-03 00335, 2013
CatCat
night199uk: haha, so i didn't remember completely wrong
2013-01-03 00337, 2013
CatCat
erh
2013-01-03 00338, 2013
CatCat
nikki:
2013-01-03 00348, 2013
CatCat
wtf some other perosn with nitab
2013-01-03 00336, 2013
CatCat
but when we implement nes, we *need* to also look at editing in general, be able to edit *just* a track, or *just* a title, or go i nand change only this disc title without havign to load the editor for editing everything
2013-01-03 00348, 2013
CatCat
only load an editior for everything, whne one *wants* to edit everything
2013-01-03 00320, 2013
CatCat
same with relationship editor
2013-01-03 00323, 2013
Freso
That isn't specifically tied to NES though.
2013-01-03 00330, 2013
CatCat
no, i am jsut saying
2013-01-03 00332, 2013
Freso
AFAIK.
2013-01-03 00339, 2013
CatCat
since edits and *doing edits* are linked after all
2013-01-03 00348, 2013
nikki thinks the problem is more that the release editor is just too damn slow in general
2013-01-03 00302, 2013
CatCat politely disagrees with nikki
2013-01-03 00314, 2013
CatCat
it is definitly damn slow and that is a part of a problem
2013-01-03 00315, 2013
nikki
as opposed to impolitely? :P
2013-01-03 00349, 2013
CatCat
but i also think that beign able to just click "edit title" or "add release date" or whatever needs to be possible
2013-01-03 00304, 2013
nikki
but to do that you need hundreds of edit links everywhere
2013-01-03 00319, 2013
nikki doesn't really want to go back to that
2013-01-03 00320, 2013
CatCat
nikki: yes, because you're not just talkign aout of you ass, yo uactually know a lot about mb and it's inner workings
2013-01-03 00323, 2013
CatCat
been here as much as me
2013-01-03 00343, 2013
CatCat
nikki: then make it optinoal, sure no problem
2013-01-03 00344, 2013
nikki
I like the idea of clicking edit and editing stuff, I just dislike the sloooow implementation of it
2013-01-03 00349, 2013
nikki
heh, options...
2013-01-03 00354, 2013
CatCat
and I never saw a problem with "houndreds of edit links everywhere"
2013-01-03 00327, 2013
CatCat
the contrary for me
2013-01-03 00331, 2013
kepstin-work wouldn't mind small discrete edit links everywhere, possibly using icons and only showing up on hover?
2013-01-03 00331, 2013
CatCat
i miss them
2013-01-03 00340, 2013
CatCat
ehm...
2013-01-03 00352, 2013
CatCat
ok.. deprends on the implementation
2013-01-03 00300, 2013
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CatCat hates the idea of usign hover over only icon representations of text, but damn, is so missign the ability he'd settel for that :o
2013-01-03 00354, 2013
CatCat
oh hey OT. was the "end of the year" thingy report published?
2013-01-03 00307, 2013
CatCat
you know with like "the guy with most edits" and how many rels are there now wtc
2013-01-03 00316, 2013
CatCat
etc*
2013-01-03 00304, 2013
CatCat
hm, why is there two artist [no artist] and [nature sounds]?
2013-01-03 00322, 2013
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CatCat
what
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Freso
There should only be one of each.
2013-01-03 00339, 2013
CatCat
yea i dropped out for some reason and i don't know what yo urefer oo sorry
