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      • Freso
        Because by the latter judgement, Danish should also use English Title Case.
      • 2013-01-31 03151, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I suppose I could write to Foras na Gaeilge or similar and ask for opinions.
      • 2013-01-31 03125, 2013

      • Freso
        Leftmost: That would be neat. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03132, 2013

      • Freso
        Leftmost: That page doesn't seem very consistent.
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        "Scéal agus úrscéal"
      • 2013-01-31 03155, 2013

      • Leftmost
        It is, all except for the Sciorrfhocal book.
      • 2013-01-31 03157, 2013

      • Freso
        "Scéalta agus aistriúchán"
      • 2013-01-31 03100, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Sciorrfhocail, rather.
      • 2013-01-31 03109, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Oh, missed that.
      • 2013-01-31 03129, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Interesting that those are both subtitles.
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        I think getting word from the official instance would be the best thing to do here.
      • 2013-01-31 03154, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Yeah, you're right.
      • 2013-01-31 03155, 2013

      • Freso
        And then make a proper capitalisation guideline RFC.
      • 2013-01-31 03134, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Though it makes a certain sort of sense that official standards would follow English standards.
      • 2013-01-31 03102, 2013

      • Leftmost
        For what it's worth, the FnaG site seems to favor English-style titlecase, and state organizations use titlecase. Not sure whether that's different in countries which use sentence case.
      • 2013-01-31 03157, 2013

      • Freso
        State organisations are proper nouns in Danish.
      • 2013-01-31 03103, 2013

      • Freso
        That might be the case for Irish as well.
      • 2013-01-31 03130, 2013

      • Freso
        So you have e.g. "Ministeriet for Kultur".
      • 2013-01-31 03152, 2013

      • Freso
        Also, Danish title style capitalisation: point 9 on http://sproget.dk/raad-og-regler/retskrivningsreg…
      • 2013-01-31 03118, 2013

      • Freso
        You can officially use either Sentence case or Title Case for Danish (work) titles.
      • 2013-01-31 03114, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Alright, I sent off an email to Foras na Gaeilge.
      • 2013-01-31 03101, 2013

      • Leftmost
        For now, I would use titlecase, as that's what I've been using and seen used on MB. Can always bookmark it and come back to it later when I get my response.
      • 2013-01-31 03130, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I warn you, it could be a while. My experience with the Irish is that emails are not responded to quickly.
      • 2013-01-31 03154, 2013

      • Freso
        Leftmost: And I've been using and seeing sentence case for Irish. So I'll stick to that. ;) English is the only language I've seen Title Case used for.
      • 2013-01-31 03156, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Where have you seen sentence case for Irish?
      • 2013-01-31 03124, 2013

      • Freso
        Oh, gee. It's been ages since I regularly edited trad. stuff.
      • 2013-01-31 03128, 2013

      • Freso
        reo-ping, but not reo! D:
      • 2013-01-31 03103, 2013

      • jacobbrett
        Anyone have an opinion on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20763970 ?
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        Yes.
      • 2013-01-31 03148, 2013

      • Freso
        It's WRONG!
      • 2013-01-31 03151, 2013

      • Freso clicks
      • 2013-01-31 03134, 2013

      • Freso
        Heating's fixed!
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      • jacobbrett
        Freso: Cheers anyway
      • 2013-01-31 03148, 2013

      • nikki would also have expected title case for irish
      • 2013-01-31 03154, 2013

      • nikki
        same seems to happen for welsh
      • 2013-01-31 03133, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Also see http://www.litriocht.com/shop/ which uses titlecase pretty consistently.
      • 2013-01-31 03124, 2013

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      • intgr
        For two-vinyl releases, should I use track numbers C1/C2/D1/D2 for the 2nd disc or should I use A1/A2/B1/B2 again?
      • 2013-01-31 03157, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I'd say the former.
      • 2013-01-31 03135, 2013

      • intgr
        Ok thanks.
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      • Leftmost
        Freso, reosarevok is here.
      • 2013-01-31 03140, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Oh no it's an ambush!
      • 2013-01-31 03150, 2013

      • derr84
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20759211 - it is more interesting
      • 2013-01-31 03100, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: \o/
      • 2013-01-31 03104, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Ping!!
      • 2013-01-31 03152, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Freso: ACK
      • 2013-01-31 03105, 2013

      • reosarevok
        btw, I've seen ListMyCDs has been adding VIAFs already :D
      • 2013-01-31 03137, 2013

      • Freso
        Awesome.
      • 2013-01-31 03156, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: It wasn't the git thing I wanted to pink you about, but I can't remember what it was now. :(
      • 2013-01-31 03108, 2013

      • Leftmost
        You're bad at that. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03112, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Anyway. *If* you need help with and want to pull my change to your mbs-590x branch, now's a good time to ping me.
      • 2013-01-31 03114, 2013

      • Freso
        I am.
      • 2013-01-31 03150, 2013

      • Freso
        Oh! I remember!
      • 2013-01-31 03112, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Do you have anywhere I could listen to a recording of https://beta.musicbrainz.org/work/ebf29bb7-0f0d-4… ?
      • 2013-01-31 03123, 2013

      • reosarevok
        One second - answering support mail
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (to an editor from Bangladesh! Yay non-western editors!)
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: I have another release which has a "Gammal fäbodspsalm", but the composer is listed as Oskar Lindberg.
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

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      • Freso
        reosarevok: No, the arr. is by Povl Chr. Balslev. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03143, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Here's by A. Ohrwall!
      • 2013-01-31 03111, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Freso: ready to pull
      • 2013-01-31 03122, 2013

      • reosarevok
        How do I? :)
      • 2013-01-31 03101, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: :)
      • 2013-01-31 03108, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Are you in the directory you have the code in?
      • 2013-01-31 03113, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-01-31 03115, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I was in github :p
      • 2013-01-31 03117, 2013

      • reosarevok
        One sec
      • 2013-01-31 03136, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (I was expecting to be able to do it from the WUI)
      • 2013-01-31 03106, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: When yuo are: "git remote add github-freso https://github.com/freso/musicbrainz-server.git&#…
      • 2013-01-31 03131, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Hm. I guess I *could* make a pull request against your repo... that all just seems a bit convoluted. :|
      • 2013-01-31 03133, 2013

      • reosarevok
        And then just git-pull?
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        Yes and no. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03108, 2013

      • Freso
        "git pull github-freso mbs-5803"
      • 2013-01-31 03130, 2013

      • Freso
        Wait.
      • 2013-01-31 03137, 2013

      • Freso
        You have to be in your own mbs-5803 branch first.
      • 2013-01-31 03140, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I am
      • 2013-01-31 03140, 2013

      • Freso
        "git checkout mbs-5803"
      • 2013-01-31 03144, 2013

      • Freso
        Alright. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03145, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But ur server don't like me
      • 2013-01-31 03146, 2013

      • reosarevok
        error: The requested URL returned error: 401 while accessing https://github.com/freso/musicbrainz-server.git/i…
      • 2013-01-31 03152, 2013

      • derr84
        Freso: a little wrong. "[name]" is initially "Ariel Pink", not "Pink Ariel" :)
      • 2013-01-31 03106, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: Well, the point stands regardless.
      • 2013-01-31 03137, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: I could have used Spam and Eggs. Don't get too hung up on the specifics. :p
      • 2013-01-31 03106, 2013

      • Freso
        (Well, "Eggs" would have been a bad choice, given how the genitive should just be "'" then...)
      • 2013-01-31 03131, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Hm.
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Try "git fetch github-freso" first?
      • 2013-01-31 03157, 2013

      • reosarevok
        same
      • 2013-01-31 03157, 2013

      • Freso
        Oh!
      • 2013-01-31 03159, 2013

      • Freso
        -.-
      • 2013-01-31 03107, 2013

      • Freso
        "git remote rm github-freso"
      • 2013-01-31 03119, 2013

      • Freso
      • 2013-01-31 03134, 2013

      • Freso
        "git pull github-freso mbs-5803"
      • 2013-01-31 03153, 2013

      • reosarevok
        lol
      • 2013-01-31 03106, 2013

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      • Freso
        (That's what you get for typing out URLs instead of copy/pasting...)
      • 2013-01-31 03132, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Also, I like your style
      • 2013-01-31 03137, 2013

      • reosarevok
        For tests, not for failing at URLs :p
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • reosarevok
        So I'll copy it for VIAF
      • 2013-01-31 03149, 2013

      • Freso
        :)
      • 2013-01-31 03104, 2013

      • Freso
        I guess by "style" you mean the comment preceding the tests.
      • 2013-01-31 03128, 2013

      • reosarevok
        And separating them, yes
      • 2013-01-31 03130, 2013

      • Freso
        I "introduced" that with the tests for the The Session URLs.
      • 2013-01-31 03139, 2013

      • Freso
        Separating them?
      • 2013-01-31 03155, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Separating them from other tests
      • 2013-01-31 03102, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (it's a bit of a mess currently)
      • 2013-01-31 03110, 2013

      • Freso
        Well, they're not more separated now than they were before.
      • 2013-01-31 03115, 2013

      • Freso
        It's just the comment added. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03127, 2013

      • Freso
        But yes, that comment does make it all a bit more readable, IMHO.
      • 2013-01-31 03135, 2013

      • Freso
        Which is why I added it in the first place. :p
      • 2013-01-31 03128, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, if all had comments, they'd all be separated from each other by a comment!
      • 2013-01-31 03144, 2013

      • Freso
        Indeed. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03131, 2013

      • Freso
        (And yes git/hub is pretty awesome to work with when you're multiple people (actually, also even when you're just yourself). But sometimes you need to try some of the more advanced stuff to get a taste for it. :))
      • 2013-01-31 03128, 2013

      • derr84
        Freso: don't you think _'s_ is 'disparate part'?
      • 2013-01-31 03105, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: I have to go look "disparate part" up first. Hold on. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03150, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: Different part of what?
      • 2013-01-31 03116, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. :)
      • 2013-01-31 03128, 2013

      • derr84
        All disparate parts of a sort name should be separated by ", " (comma and space).
      • 2013-01-31 03132, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: "'s" is indeed not a part of "[name]"
      • 2013-01-31 03135, 2013

      • Freso
        Ah.
      • 2013-01-31 03142, 2013

      • Freso
        Hm.
      • 2013-01-31 03125, 2013

      • nikki
        I would have thought "Pink, Ariel's, Haunted Graffiti" or just "Pink, Ariel, Haunted Graffiti"
      • 2013-01-31 03138, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: Referring to earlier examples, we don't do "Cave, Nick, and, Wailers, the" (I can't remember what Nick's band was >_>)
      • 2013-01-31 03150, 2013

      • nikki
        bad seeds?
      • 2013-01-31 03100, 2013

      • derr84
        ))
      • 2013-01-31 03109, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: Even though "and" is clearly disparate from both "Nick Cave" and "(The) Bad Seeds"
      • 2013-01-31 03100, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: In that regard, I'd say the "'s" is part of the initial name section of the complete name.
      • 2013-01-31 03130, 2013

      • Freso
        derr84: So "([name]'s) and (Bad Haunted Wailers, The)"
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      • Freso
        But it is a tricky one. :)
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      • derr84
        this case should be in the guideline anyway. also, Dave Eggs' Graffiti Seeds
      • 2013-01-31 03134, 2013

      • Freso
        :D
      • 2013-01-31 03138, 2013

      • derr84
        Eggs, Dave', Graffiti Seeds?
      • 2013-01-31 03106, 2013

      • Freso
        It's definitely something worthy of being discussed in -style!
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      • Freso
        There's no way to indicate that a "medley" recording of a work is a live recording. :|
      • 2013-01-31 03130, 2013

      • nikki
        someone should just send a proposal to copy the attributes to the medley relationship. the proposal to merge them doesn't seem to be going anywhere :P
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      • reosarevok
        Anyone can help this picard-on-mac guy? http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2…