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Because by the latter judgement, Danish should also use English Title Case.

I suppose I could write to Foras na Gaeilge or similar and ask for opinions.

Leftmost: That would be neat. :)

Leftmost: That page doesn't seem very consistent.

"Scéal agus úrscéal"

It is, all except for the Sciorrfhocal book.

"Scéalta agus aistriúchán"

Sciorrfhocail, rather.

Oh, missed that.

Interesting that those are both subtitles.

I think getting word from the official instance would be the best thing to do here.

Yeah, you're right.

And then make a proper capitalisation guideline RFC.

Though it makes a certain sort of sense that official standards would follow English standards.

For what it's worth, the FnaG site seems to favor English-style titlecase, and state organizations use titlecase. Not sure whether that's different in countries which use sentence case.

State organisations are proper nouns in Danish.

That might be the case for Irish as well.

So you have e.g. "Ministeriet for Kultur".

Also, Danish title style capitalisation: point 9 on http://sproget.dk/raad-og-regler/retskrivningsr...

You can officially use either Sentence case or Title Case for Danish (work) titles.

Alright, I sent off an email to Foras na Gaeilge.

For now, I would use titlecase, as that's what I've been using and seen used on MB. Can always bookmark it and come back to it later when I get my response.

I warn you, it could be a while. My experience with the Irish is that emails are not responded to quickly.

Leftmost: And I've been using and seeing sentence case for Irish. So I'll stick to that. ;) English is the only language I've seen Title Case used for.

Where have you seen sentence case for Irish?

Oh, gee. It's been ages since I regularly edited trad. stuff.

reo-ping, but not reo! D:

Anyone have an opinion on http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20763970 ?

Yes.

It's WRONG!

Heating's fixed!

Freso: Cheers anyway

same seems to happen for welsh

Also see http://www.litriocht.com/shop/ which uses titlecase pretty consistently.

For two-vinyl releases, should I use track numbers C1/C2/D1/D2 for the 2nd disc or should I use A1/A2/B1/B2 again?

I'd say the former.

Ok thanks.

Freso, reosarevok is here.

Oh no it's an ambush!

http://musicbrainz.org/edit/20759211 - it is more interesting

reosarevok: \o/

reosarevok: Ping!!

Freso: ACK

btw, I've seen ListMyCDs has been adding VIAFs already :D

Awesome.

reosarevok: It wasn't the git thing I wanted to pink you about, but I can't remember what it was now. :(

You're bad at that. :)

reosarevok: Anyway. *If* you need help with and want to pull my change to your mbs-590x branch, now's a good time to ping me.

I am.

Oh! I remember!

reosarevok: Do you have anywhere I could listen to a recording of https://beta.musicbrainz.org/work/ebf29bb7-0f0d... ?

One second - answering support mail

(to an editor from Bangladesh! Yay non-western editors!)

reosarevok: I have another release which has a "Gammal fäbodspsalm", but the composer is listed as Oskar Lindberg.

reosarevok: No, the arr. is by Povl Chr. Balslev. :)

Here's by A. Ohrwall!

Freso: ready to pull

How do I? :)

reosarevok: :)

reosarevok: Are you in the directory you have the code in?

heh

I was in github :p

One sec

(I was expecting to be able to do it from the WUI)

reosarevok: When yuo are: "git remote add github-freso https://github.com/freso/musicbrainz-server.git...;

reosarevok: Hm. I guess I *could* make a pull request against your repo... that all just seems a bit convoluted. :|

And then just git-pull?

Yes and no. :)

"git pull github-freso mbs-5803"

Wait.

You have to be in your own mbs-5803 branch first.

I am

"git checkout mbs-5803"

Alright. :)

But ur server don't like me

error: The requested URL returned error: 401 while accessing https://github.com/freso/musicbrainz-server.git...

Freso: a little wrong. "[name]" is initially "Ariel Pink", not "Pink Ariel" :)

derr84: Well, the point stands regardless.

derr84: I could have used Spam and Eggs. Don't get too hung up on the specifics. :p

(Well, "Eggs" would have been a bad choice, given how the genitive should just be "'" then...)

reosarevok: Hm.

reosarevok: Try "git fetch github-freso" first?

same

Oh!

-.-

"git remote rm github-freso"

"git remote add github-freso https://github.com/Freso/musicbrainz-server.git...;

"git pull github-freso mbs-5803"

lol

(That's what you get for typing out URLs instead of copy/pasting...)

Also, I like your style

For tests, not for failing at URLs :p

So I'll copy it for VIAF

:)

I guess by "style" you mean the comment preceding the tests.

And separating them, yes

I "introduced" that with the tests for the The Session URLs.

Separating them?

Separating them from other tests

(it's a bit of a mess currently)

Well, they're not more separated now than they were before.

It's just the comment added. :)

But yes, that comment does make it all a bit more readable, IMHO.

Which is why I added it in the first place. :p

Well, if all had comments, they'd all be separated from each other by a comment!

Indeed. :)

(And yes git/hub is pretty awesome to work with when you're multiple people (actually, also even when you're just yourself). But sometimes you need to try some of the more advanced stuff to get a taste for it. :))

Freso: don't you think _'s_ is 'disparate part'?

derr84: I have to go look "disparate part" up first. Hold on. :)

derr84: Different part of what?

derr84: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. :)

All disparate parts of a sort name should be separated by ", " (comma and space).

derr84: "'s" is indeed not a part of "[name]"

Ah.

Hm.

I would have thought "Pink, Ariel's, Haunted Graffiti" or just "Pink, Ariel, Haunted Graffiti"

derr84: Referring to earlier examples, we don't do "Cave, Nick, and, Wailers, the" (I can't remember what Nick's band was >_>)

bad seeds?

))

derr84: Even though "and" is clearly disparate from both "Nick Cave" and "(The) Bad Seeds"

derr84: In that regard, I'd say the "'s" is part of the initial name section of the complete name.

derr84: So "([name]'s) and (Bad Haunted Wailers, The)"

But it is a tricky one. :)

this case should be in the guideline anyway. also, Dave Eggs' Graffiti Seeds

:D

Eggs, Dave', Graffiti Seeds?

It's definitely something worthy of being discussed in -style!

There's no way to indicate that a "medley" recording of a work is a live recording. :|

someone should just send a proposal to copy the attributes to the medley relationship. the proposal to merge them doesn't seem to be going anywhere :P

Anyone can help this picard-on-mac guy? http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid...