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      • reosarevok
        yep
      • 2013-02-01 03235, 2013

      • thomasvs
        ok, I guess that could work
      • 2013-02-01 03253, 2013

      • thomasvs
        and the common case of two editions of singles sold separately but meant to be collected together ?
      • 2013-02-01 03201, 2013

      • thomasvs
        are we supposed to treat that as a two disc single release ?
      • 2013-02-01 03213, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I would usually put something a bit clearer if I could (see Weezer), but yeah.
      • 2013-02-01 03218, 2013

      • Leftmost
        thomasvs, multiple releases, I think.
      • 2013-02-01 03224, 2013

      • reosarevok
        You mean the silly UK thing with CD 1 and CD 2?
      • 2013-02-01 03227, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Do you mean the UK CD 1/UK CD 2?
      • 2013-02-01 03228, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Multiple releases, yep
      • 2013-02-01 03233, 2013

      • Leftmost fights reosarevok.
      • 2013-02-01 03256, 2013

      • thomasvs
        oh, really, separate ? even if they made a jewelcase that contains CD1 and you're supposed to add CD2 to that after buying it ?
      • 2013-02-01 03205, 2013

      • thomasvs
        ok
      • 2013-02-01 03213, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Yeah.
      • 2013-02-01 03217, 2013

      • thomasvs
        so in the UK case, do you actually put disc 1 and disc 2 in the title ? or in the disambiguation ?
      • 2013-02-01 03241, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Disambig, unless the cover specifies.
      • 2013-02-01 03202, 2013

      • thomasvs
        cover specifies? you mean, if the cover says, part 2 of a two cd set, you put it in the title?
      • 2013-02-01 03229, 2013

      • Leftmost
        If the cover says something like "Milk (CD 1)" or the like, though it usually would just say "Milk".
      • 2013-02-01 03254, 2013

      • Leftmost
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      • thomasvs
        ok, so basically, disambiguation is for anything you can't tell from the title but you can tell from the rest of the disc
      • 2013-02-01 03202, 2013

      • Leftmost
        The two UK releases are a CD 1 and CD 2.
      • 2013-02-01 03205, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I should probably add disambig.
      • 2013-02-01 03208, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Right.
      • 2013-02-01 03205, 2013

      • thomasvs
        yeah, and the first one says 'medium' not CD
      • 2013-02-01 03213, 2013

      • thomasvs
        wow, joe strummer co-wrote stupid girl? I had no idea
      • 2013-02-01 03220, 2013

      • reosarevok
        thomasvs: well, mostly for something you can't tell from the standard data we have
      • 2013-02-01 03230, 2013

      • thomasvs
        ok, thanks for the explanation, let's see what I can do with that this weekend
      • 2013-02-01 03235, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Well, the first is the German release. Someone just left out some info.
      • 2013-02-01 03258, 2013

      • thomasvs
        pretty sure I already do disambiguation, to get past the Weezer case. But I also want to handle this when it's missing that field.
      • 2013-02-01 03203, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I mean, at a release group level, it's generally just "not the same name"
      • 2013-02-01 03217, 2013

      • reosarevok
        At a release level, since barcodes and such already help, it's much less common
      • 2013-02-01 03252, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Probably just a generic (1) or something.
      • 2013-02-01 03219, 2013

      • thomasvs
        yeah, works for me. Plus morituri almost has a retag/rename option, so people can fix disambiguation then trigger rename
      • 2013-02-01 03223, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I still have yet to try morituri, though I'm interested in the project.
      • 2013-02-01 03211, 2013

      • thomasvs
        it rips cds, makes you dinner, and does the dishes afterwards.
      • 2013-02-01 03213, 2013

      • thomasvs
        you should try it
      • 2013-02-01 03233, 2013

      • reosarevok
        huh, I don't use CDs but if it still makes me dinner maybe I should :p
      • 2013-02-01 03215, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Will it make dinner for two, or just for one?
      • 2013-02-01 03227, 2013

      • thomasvs
        depends on the quality of the cd you're ripping
      • 2013-02-01 03255, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I have excellent taste.
      • 2013-02-01 03201, 2013

      • thomasvs
        then two it is
      • 2013-02-01 03223, 2013

      • thomasvs
        hm, using track count may make sense too if there's no disambiguation. or mbid.
      • 2013-02-01 03237, 2013

      • nikki puts CD 1 and CD 2 in the disambiguation comment for uk singles
      • 2013-02-01 03206, 2013

      • nikki
        some people want to copy the wording used on the cover, but I want to be able to detect particular types of disambiguation comments :/
      • 2013-02-01 03237, 2013

      • reosarevok
        "Legend of the Knightwasher – which is, in fact, about a washing machine who’s also a medieval knight" go go go crazy games
      • 2013-02-01 03253, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: Sounds like a point'n'click adventure! :D
      • 2013-02-01 03203, 2013

      • reosarevok
        It looks like a diablo-ish arpg
      • 2013-02-01 03210, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But, you know, with dishwashers
      • 2013-02-01 03221, 2013

      • Freso
        Aw.
      • 2013-02-01 03232, 2013

      • jesus2099
        thomasvs: include the catalogue number and/or barcode at the end of your folder name, for instance
      • 2013-02-01 03209, 2013

      • Freso
        There can be multiple cat. no.'s and both cat. no. and barcode can be the same between releases.
      • 2013-02-01 03228, 2013

      • reosarevok
        hey, now he quit *after* you replied! :p
      • 2013-02-01 03237, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (technically at least :p)
      • 2013-02-01 03246, 2013

      • Freso
        :p
      • 2013-02-01 03202, 2013

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      • 2013-02-01 03208, 2013

      • jesus2099
        Freso: I use foobar for my (temp.) reips, it concatenate all catnos, and they are different for different releases, hopefully :)
      • 2013-02-01 03239, 2013

      • jesus2099
        hey Freso maybe you might know that : I’ve noticed I don’t receive emails any more when someone says somethingin a JIRA that I voted or commented in…
      • 2013-02-01 03255, 2013

      • jesus2099
        I have to vote+WATCH now, right ?
      • 2013-02-01 03209, 2013

      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: I think you always had to...
      • 2013-02-01 03212, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but do I have to also watch my own JIRA ?
      • 2013-02-01 03213, 2013

      • Freso
        jesus2099: Voting has never triggered sending e-mails.
      • 2013-02-01 03222, 2013

      • Freso
        jesus2099: Depends on your own settings, I think.
      • 2013-02-01 03239, 2013

      • Freso
        jesus2099: I just subscribe to -bugs, so I don't really watch my own ticket flow. :p
      • 2013-02-01 03245, 2013

      • Freso
        *watch just my own
      • 2013-02-01 03254, 2013

      • jesus2099
        where are the settings ?
      • 2013-02-01 03258, 2013

      • Freso shrugs
      • 2013-02-01 03203, 2013

      • jesus2099
      • 2013-02-01 03203, 2013

      • Freso
        Look around.
      • 2013-02-01 03215, 2013

      • jesus2099
        I know I know but the settings of JIRA are so few…
      • 2013-02-01 03227, 2013

      • jesus2099
        As I thought there is near nothing in there
      • 2013-02-01 03249, 2013

      • jesus2099
        The only setting is « Email me when I make changes » but this is not what I’m talking abouts
      • 2013-02-01 03231, 2013

      • jesus2099
        Freso: how do you watch your own for instacne ?
      • 2013-02-01 03244, 2013

      • jesus2099
        you mean you have to click WATCH each time afterxards you create your ticket ?
      • 2013-02-01 03201, 2013

      • nikki
        you should get emails for things you reported
      • 2013-02-01 03207, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ah,; great
      • 2013-02-01 03216, 2013

      • jesus2099
        :)
      • 2013-02-01 03217, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ouf
      • 2013-02-01 03234, 2013

      • nikki
        there doesn't seem to be a way to add voters to the list of people who are sent emails, it's just the reporter, the assignee and all watchers
      • 2013-02-01 03201, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ok nikki, I just needed to know how it worked, thanks for this :)
      • 2013-02-01 03217, 2013

      • jesus2099
        btw the WATCH button on own ticket shouldn’t be there, then
      • 2013-02-01 03231, 2013

      • jesus2099
        just like the VOTE button is disabled
      • 2013-02-01 03202, 2013

      • jesus2099
        Voting: You cannot vote or change your vote on resolved issues. BUT Watching: You are not watching this issue. Watch it to be notified of changes
      • 2013-02-01 03209, 2013

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      • 2013-02-01 03224, 2013

      • nikki
        that's different. the configuration stuff is configurable, so it's possible to have emails sent to watchers which aren't sent to the reporter (why? who knows)
      • 2013-02-01 03208, 2013

      • jesus2099
        so the WATCH button and explanation on own tickets’s sidebar is not consistent with our configuration, it’s LYING. :)
      • 2013-02-01 03210, 2013

      • nikki
        but since we have reporter and watchers for all notifications, you *can* if you want, but you don't need to
      • 2013-02-01 03245, 2013

      • jesus2099
        it says « [I] won’t be notified » ☜ LIE LIE LIE
      • 2013-02-01 03252, 2013

      • Freso
        jesus2099 | Freso: how do you watch your own for instacne ?
      • 2013-02-01 03259, 2013

      • nikki
        it's entirely possible it's been altered in a newer version of jira. it's not like we're using a recent version :P
      • 2013-02-01 03205, 2013

      • Freso
        I follow yjr musicbrainz-bugs mailing list.
      • 2013-02-01 03207, 2013

      • Freso
        *the
      • 2013-02-01 03238, 2013

      • jesus2099
        another mailing list again ? /(°o° )/
      • 2013-02-01 03246, 2013

      • Freso
        It's an old mailing list.
      • 2013-02-01 03257, 2013

      • Freso
        (As can be seen by it being -bugs and not, say, -tickets.)
      • 2013-02-01 03217, 2013

      • Freso
        I wouldn't be surprised if there's an RSS feed as well.
      • 2013-02-01 03219, 2013

      • jesus2099
        nikki does so too, and she’s indexing it all so she can find any ticket in less than seconds
      • 2013-02-01 03240, 2013

      • nikki
        jira has rss, yes. ian uses it
      • 2013-02-01 03245, 2013

      • Freso
      • 2013-02-01 03204, 2013

      • jesus2099
        Freso: I’m ok just following my voted, commented and reported ones, but I understand I have to click another button for that
      • 2013-02-01 03208, 2013

      • jesus2099
        strange tghat this RSS feed’s titles look like <a href='http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/secure/V… updated the Description of <a href="http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/S… (Add "sub-" attribute to Publisher relationship type)
      • 2013-02-01 03210, 2013

      • jesus2099
        html code
      • 2013-02-01 03215, 2013

      • nikki
      • 2013-02-01 03248, 2013

      • jesus2099
        You also index other’s jira ! wow :)
      • 2013-02-01 03253, 2013

      • nikki
        no, google does
      • 2013-02-01 03207, 2013

      • nikki
        I was googling to see if it's fixed in a newer version
      • 2013-02-01 03209, 2013

      • nikki
        but apparently not.
      • 2013-02-01 03208, 2013

      • jesus2099
        the RSS looks awful in Opera RSS reader because of the html code in the title (text) field
      • 2013-02-01 03201, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but just ignore that ↗
      • 2013-02-01 03217, 2013

      • jesus2099
        I wouldn’t want to read all the updates anyway
      • 2013-02-01 03246, 2013

      • jesus2099
        there’s a patate12 guy who is making 5 updates for a short sentence, it would be terrible to read
      • 2013-02-01 03258, 2013

      • Freso
        It is terrible to read.
      • 2013-02-01 03203, 2013

      • nikki
        indeed.
      • 2013-02-01 03210, 2013

      • jesus2099
        as I said
      • 2013-02-01 03214, 2013

      • Freso
        Sometimes I consider just filtering everything from that guy out.
      • 2013-02-01 03218, 2013

      • jesus2099
        what a jerk
      • 2013-02-01 03224, 2013

      • Freso
        Indeed.
      • 2013-02-01 03237, 2013

      • jesus2099
        what a stupid name too !
      • 2013-02-01 03239, 2013

      • jesus2099
        Freso nikki : hey but YOU chose to subscribe to everything !
      • 2013-02-01 03241, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ;p
      • 2013-02-01 03211, 2013

      • nikki
        you do know there's a preview function, right?
      • 2013-02-01 03238, 2013

      • jesus2099
        I was purposely avoiding it because if I did PREVIEW then SUBMIT I would loose my text.
      • 2013-02-01 03251, 2013

      • nikki
        you can click the preview button again to get the text field back...
      • 2013-02-01 03205, 2013

      • jesus2099
        But it seems fixed now but as I’m not sure it will work each time I have to PREVIEW then reclick PREVIW to quit preview mode before submit and it’s long so I don’t do it
      • 2013-02-01 03220, 2013

      • jesus2099
        because I’m sure that what I write is PURE GEM
      • 2013-02-01 03227, 2013

      • nikki
        but opening the edit page and resubmitting is of course so quick
      • 2013-02-01 03242, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but then I read it later and see it’s PURE CRAP and I have to fix once or twice
      • 2013-02-01 03210, 2013

      • Freso
        or thrice...
      • 2013-02-01 03214, 2013

      • jesus2099
        anyway I know I can’t write something correct from the first time, it’s like this
      • 2013-02-01 03220, 2013

      • jesus2099
        it’s me
      • 2013-02-01 03223, 2013

      • Freso
        or a million bloody times... -.-
      • 2013-02-01 03235, 2013

      • nikki
        if you know that, why do you post it immediately?
      • 2013-02-01 03220, 2013

      • jesus2099
        because it has to be posted for me to see what needs to be corrected
      • 2013-02-01 03256, 2013

      • jesus2099
        hey I’m sure you’re over exagerating my corrections… I’m sure nowadays it’s quite few
      • 2013-02-01 03223, 2013

      • jesus2099
        :) … lunch time btw ☜ very important
      • 2013-02-01 03254, 2013

      • jesus2099
        bye bye see soon
      • 2013-02-01 03212, 2013

      • nikki shrugs
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      • Freso
        It least we don't get notifications for all the corrections to mailing list posts...
      • 2013-02-01 03251, 2013

      • nikki
        I just think I'm probably not the only person who just skips over all the emails when people make a bunch of edits, meaning the entire comment doesn't even get read
      • 2013-02-01 03204, 2013

      • Freso
        (Which is bogus to begin with, but eh.)
      • 2013-02-01 03204, 2013

      • nikki
        which defeats the point of commenting
      • 2013-02-01 03235, 2013

      • Freso
        nikki: I usually read the first one, but I can't be bothered to figure out corrections in the comment.
      • 2013-02-01 03204, 2013

      • nikki
        I don't even bother with the first, since it's changed somehow since :P
      • 2013-02-01 03206, 2013

      • Freso
        It should use a better diff'ing algorithm (or y'know, just actually use one) to make it possible to see *what* was changed.
      • 2013-02-01 03211, 2013

      • nikki
        yeah!
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      • derr84
        should sort names for aliases be Latin only?
      • 2013-02-01 03238, 2013

      • reosarevok
        No! :)
      • 2013-02-01 03203, 2013

      • reosarevok
        nikki, send the RFV :p
      • 2013-02-01 03210, 2013

      • nikki
        oops
      • 2013-02-01 03233, 2013

      • nikki is not used to having open proposals :P
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      • reosarevok
        derr84: just use the sortname for the appropriate locale (I'm assuming Russian? :) )