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      • hawke_1
        Well, or at least of questionable descent (the release in question is not very clear on what exactly it is, but it’s from a movie)

        • 2013-04-01 09135, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Game rips I consider official anyway, so…

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      • hawke_1
        (well, most of the time)

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      • nikki
        that doesn't make sense to me

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      • MissDee
        is there a way to say a track is "in homage to"?

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      • MissDee
        I can;t see anything in the work or recording relationships

        • 2013-04-01 09103, 2013

      • nikki
        no

        • 2013-04-01 09113, 2013

      • MissDee
        ok, any known lans to or shall I add a feature request?

        • 2013-04-01 09116, 2013

      • MissDee
        +p

        • 2013-04-01 09142, 2013

      • nikki
        if you want a new relationship, you would need to follow https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposals

        • 2013-04-01 09159, 2013

      • nikki
        and I'm not aware of anyone planning to request it

        • 2013-04-01 09146, 2013

      • MissDee waits for the wiki

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      • MissDee
        or just my browser, one of them...

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      • Freso
        MissDee: You could also note it in the Recording's annotation.

        • 2013-04-01 09139, 2013

      • MissDee
        Freso: that's another option, but I was hoping for something more structured

        • 2013-04-01 09146, 2013

      • MissDee
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-203

        • 2013-04-01 09103, 2013

      • MissDee
        style email incoming

        • 2013-04-01 09108, 2013

      • Freso
        MissDee: Sure. But it might still be useful to record it somehow (e.g. in annotations) so it doesn't get lost if you for some reason lose connection before the RFC passes - or if the RFC ends up getting rejected.

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      • MissDee
        noted

        • 2013-04-01 09114, 2013

      • MissDee
        can I send the RFC email immediately after subscribing or will it be moderated?

        • 2013-04-01 09137, 2013

      • reosarevok
        AFAIK should be fine

        • 2013-04-01 09114, 2013

      • MissDee
        sent

        • 2013-04-01 09120, 2013

      • MissDee
        550 Non-member posting rejected

        • 2013-04-01 09156, 2013

      • nikki
        if you subscribed to the list, I don't see why it wouldn't work o_O

        • 2013-04-01 09113, 2013

      • VxJasonxV
        did you send from the same address you subscribed?

        • 2013-04-01 09126, 2013

      • MissDee
        of course :)

        • 2013-04-01 09140, 2013

      • VxJasonxV
        just wanted to make sure. I screw that up more than I care to admit.

        • 2013-04-01 09130, 2013

      • hawke_1
        I got that when I accidentally tried to post via nabble…

        • 2013-04-01 09139, 2013

      • MissDee
        I haven;t had my mailman confirm yet

        • 2013-04-01 09104, 2013

      • nikki
        ah. maybe that's why

        • 2013-04-01 09132, 2013

      • MissDee
        on a completely unralted note, are the picard update blog entries tagged in such a way as to get a list of just those entries?

        • 2013-04-01 09150, 2013

      • MissDee
        I would like to add a direct link to http://www.update-scout.com/softwareInfo.html?Sof…

        • 2013-04-01 09102, 2013

      • nikki
        http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?cat=9 should work

        • 2013-04-01 09148, 2013

      • MissDee
        oh yeah, I see the link now

        • 2013-04-01 09151, 2013

      • MissDee
        <-- blind

        • 2013-04-01 09152, 2013

      • MissDee
        :p

        • 2013-04-01 09154, 2013

      • MissDee
        thanks

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      • reosarevok
        MissDee: you should make a wiki page for the relationship

        • 2013-04-01 09143, 2013

      • reosarevok
        For example at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:MissDee/Dedicati… maybe?

        • 2013-04-01 09139, 2013

      • reosarevok
        You can base it on an existing relationship, for example http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Composer_Relationship…

        • 2013-04-01 09147, 2013

      • MissDee
        ah, ok, I wasn't sure if it was significant enought to require a dedicated page

        • 2013-04-01 09156, 2013

      • nikki
        all relationship types have their own page :)

        • 2013-04-01 09127, 2013

      • MissDee
        ohhh

        • 2013-04-01 09138, 2013

      • MissDee
        new cover art downloader bug I think

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      • MissDee
        folder.jpg.jpg

        • 2013-04-01 09111, 2013

      • MissDee
        I'll just confirm it does the same on another album

        • 2013-04-01 09128, 2013

      • MissDee
        well, i would if explorer hadn't died a slow and painful death

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      • hawke_1
        Are you telling it to 'use the following file name for images': folder.jpg?

        • 2013-04-01 09120, 2013

      • hawke_1
        because you shouldn’t include the extension there.

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      • MissDee
        the previosu plugin required it

        • 2013-04-01 09127, 2013

      • MissDee
        and also allows me to use .jpeg (if I was so inclined)

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      • MissDee
        that's the only reason it was set to folder.jpg

        • 2013-04-01 09105, 2013

      • hawke_1
        With Picard 1.2, no plugin is required.

        • 2013-04-01 09142, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Not so much a bug, as a change of behavior between plugin and implementation in picard proper

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      • MissDee
        yes

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      • nikki wonders why so many people keep trying to add cd stubs without entering the tracklist

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      • nikki
        MissDee: btw, would you use the relationship you proposed for people who would otherwise not be in the database?

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      • MissDee
        it's possible...

        • 2013-04-01 09104, 2013

      • MissDee
        I hasn;t thought of that

        • 2013-04-01 09118, 2013

      • nikki
        the only two I can think of are people not in the db :/

        • 2013-04-01 09147, 2013

      • MissDee
        I'd kinda' assumed that they'd be added (just like people involved int he production/recording)

        • 2013-04-01 09122, 2013

      • MissDee
        This album lists heywood banks (who is in the db) and tom lehrer who I assume is :)

        • 2013-04-01 09108, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I can think of plenty of "dedicated to" for works

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      • hawke_1
        MissDee: would it be exclusively work-artist? or would it be releasegroup-artist as well?

        • 2013-04-01 09117, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Pretty much none for recordings though

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      • Freso
        I think I've encounted cover recordings "dedicated to" someone.

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      • Freso
        Where the Work obviously wouldn't be related to the someone, but the Recording would.

        • 2013-04-01 09148, 2013

      • Freso
        kloeri: Onsdag næste uge? :p

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      • nikki
        hawke: we already have a tribute relationship on release groups

        • 2013-04-01 09105, 2013

      • nikki
        perhaps we should just extend that one

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      • Freso
        Sounds reasonable.

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      • Freso
        That one's pretty young too, isn't it?

        • 2013-04-01 09136, 2013

      • nikki
        no

        • 2013-04-01 09102, 2013

      • hawke_1
        It feels a little different to me though

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      • hawke_1
        i.e. 'tribute to' seems to be mostly tribute band stuff, a way to say 'contains a bunch of covers of'

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      • MissDee
        I origianlly thought works onlym but Freso's point makes sense

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      • MissDee
        I see it as mainly "this songs is dedicated to XYZ"

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      • MissDee
        but can also imagine someone doing a special version and dedicate that or somehting

        • 2013-04-01 09159, 2013

      • hawke_1
        http://jmrproductions.com/the-tribute-album-dedic… ?

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      • hawke_1
        That one seems an album dedicated to someone, while not fitting the definition at http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Tribute_Relationship_T…

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      • hawke_1
        which seems to pretty much say they should be covers of songs by the target artist

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      • hawke_1
        or maybe I’m reading too much into “normally”

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      • nikki
        normally doesn't mean always :P

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      • hawke_1
        I know.

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      • hawke_1
        also note that each song appears to be dedicated to a different person than the release dedication…and some to things that we probably couldn’t even use, like “To U.S. Soldiers”

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      • hawke_1
        I can only imagine that the album in question is unspeakably awful

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      • nikki
        haha

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      • MissDee
        lol

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      • hawke_1
        Hmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedicated_to_the_One… ? :-D

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      • MissDee
        is it normal for the wiki to present an HTTP auth fail page?

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      • MissDee
        from http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Speci…

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      • MissDee
        <center><h1>401 Authorization Required</h1></center>

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      • MissDee
        <hr><center>nginx/1.1.19</center>

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      • MissDee
        and If I;d read the realm properly...

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      • MissDee
        anti spam measure?

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      • nikki
        yes

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      • nikki
        it keeps the spam out. it keeps everyone else out too :/

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      • nikki
        we tried captchas but it was totally useless, even recaptcha couldn't stop spam

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      • MissDee
        I think it was more of an unexpected response to a login

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      • MissDee
        I;ve seen that with mine

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      • MissDee
        is it centralised login with the main MB user system?

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      • intgr
        Is it just me or is MB.org painfully slow for anyone else too?

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      • nikki
        MissDee: nope :( right now we still have separate accounts for everything

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      • MissDee
        ok

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      • MissDee
        intgr: wiki is slow for me atm

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      • intgr
        Could be a network issue, seeing 6.7% packet drops. http://codepad.org/To02PlZq

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      • intgr
        Internet Health Report shows some loss between Cogent/Level3 http://www.internetpulse.net/Main.aspx?Metric=PL

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      • intgr
        If a release has many English tracks and a few romanized Japanese, should I use English language or Multiple?

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      • Freso
        How few?

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      • intgr
        4 out of 30 are clearly Japanese, some are in the gray area. http://fruitbatfactory.com/humantanks/music.html

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      • VxJasonxV
        English

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      • VxJasonxV
        Majority rules

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      • VxJasonxV
        if it were closer to half/split I'd say multiple

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      • VxJasonxV
        multiple is usually only 3+ languages though

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      • intgr
        Ah ok

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      • lidel
        In case anyone uses gentoo, I made an ebuild https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463982

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      • lidel
        :-)

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      • derwin
        want to make an updated ebuild of beets for gentoo? :)

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      • lidel
        derwin, sadly I just run out of my spare time ;-(

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      • lidel
        derwin, on the other hand I ended checking beets :-P and it seems that 1.0.0 is already in Gentoo's portage – is there any other 1.x.x release?

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      • derwin
        I guess it's in beta, 1.1

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      • lidel
        I imagined something like beets few years back, its so cool that somebody created such tool :-) I'll put it in my todo-list, but hopefully somebody else will do ebuild before I'll find a moment to familiarize myself with it ;P

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      • hawke_1
        Anybody feel like working out composers on http://musicbrainz.org/release/d941ac60-525f-4c5f… ? I added the works, just not composers.

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      • hawke_1
        Actually never mind, I got it.

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      • Freso
        VxJasonxV: I have added far more 2 language [mult.] releases than >2 languages ones.

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      • Freso
        Anyway.

        • 2013-04-01 09106, 2013

      • Freso
        nn.

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      • derwin
        lidel cool : #beets is active in case you have any questions etc :)