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      • hawke_
        CallerNo6: Here I am. :-)
      • 2013-04-05 09552, 2013

      • hawke_
        CallerNo6: If they are 'track artists' as opposed to essentially ARs, I would certainly be OK with it.
      • 2013-04-05 09540, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        I don't know. There are editors who put a lot of weight into the "columnar tracklist" format. I don't.
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      • CallerNo6
        That is, how do you tell when an artist in the tracklist is a "track artist"?
      • 2013-04-05 09529, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        sigh. I wish somebody could have told me that someday I'd need to scan my digipaks. I'd have taken better care of them.
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      • CallerNo6 headbangs to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OyP2fQRSzI
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      • CatCat listens to
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      • CatCat
        Lager baluba til: Oingo Boingo ~ Capitalism (3:40) (fra Only a Lad) (1981)
      • 2013-04-05 09553, 2013

      • CatCat
        hmm
      • 2013-04-05 09555, 2013

      • CatCat
        Oingo Boingo ~ Capitalism (3:40) (from Only a Lad) (1981)
      • 2013-04-05 09524, 2013

      • CatCat
        but alos
      • 2013-04-05 09526, 2013

      • CatCat
        Oingo Boingo ~ You Really Got Me (4:37) (from Only a Lad) (1981)
      • 2013-04-05 09533, 2013

      • CatCat
        (yes it is a cover9
      • 2013-04-05 09535, 2013

      • CatCat
        lmao
      • 2013-04-05 09505, 2013

      • CatCat
        CallerNo6: album of metal covers of film music?
      • 2013-04-05 09507, 2013

      • CatCat
        album of metal covers of film music?!!!!!
      • 2013-04-05 09509, 2013

      • CatCat
        :O
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        Kronos Quartet playing Hendrix pls to link this awesomeness?!
      • 2013-04-05 09536, 2013

      • CatCat
        re jimmi hendrix and CSG classical covers contemporary
      • 2013-04-05 09543, 2013

      • CatCat
        that is indeed a thing we need to fix
      • 2013-04-05 09514, 2013

      • CatCat
        i wouldefinitly agree that it needs to be credited to hendrix then. but i would also thin automatically "it was perfromed by him"
      • 2013-04-05 09519, 2013

      • CatCat
        the problem is that we didn't have recordings from the times of beetoven, as he too of course performed all his own things.. weonly have his "covers" i nthe future you will get more and more like hendrix, eg even "classical" contemporary. see john williams where peopel covering his works
      • 2013-04-05 09548, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        indeed. hey
      • 2013-04-05 09541, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        "Digged the ultra psychedelic guitar sound, then realized it's a violin and digged even more."
      • 2013-04-05 09546, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        :D
      • 2013-04-05 09502, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        its sorta reminds me of.. danny elf man a little
      • 2013-04-05 09515, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        that link ofcallersix
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      • CallerNo6
        the back cover doesn't treat Hendrix any differently. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kronos-Quartet/dp/B000005…
      • 2013-04-05 09502, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        yea, so my in stink i to treat hi exactly as the others
      • 2013-04-05 09504, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        i nthe future
      • 2013-04-05 09509, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        imagine 300 years fro mnow
      • 2013-04-05 09511, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        but I can see the problem if you come across the track outside the context of the release.
      • 2013-04-05 09519, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        indeed
      • 2013-04-05 09524, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        i think there is the problem
      • 2013-04-05 09546, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        red dwarf -> why are you liatnientg to this, why not something classical, like betthoven, mozart. or motörhead!
      • 2013-04-05 09551, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        :D
      • 2013-04-05 09555, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        nice
      • 2013-04-05 09525, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        it's played for kicks but it does create the thing
      • 2013-04-05 09538, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        i nthe future you know, hats "contemporary" is going to be "classical"
      • 2013-04-05 09553, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        whats contemporary now*
      • 2013-04-05 09532, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        yea definitely the cover shows it like the others. and listening to this it's really a "classical" piece not "cover as arranged by orchestra
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      • CallerNo6
        eek. I feel sorry for the future. They'll have to sort through a lot of classical crap.
      • 2013-04-05 09541, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        jimi should be in the tracksuit lie kthe others
      • 2013-04-05 09546, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        lmao
      • 2013-04-05 09518, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        they will be using the already established classical standards, as designed any the founding fathers of metaata foundry
      • 2013-04-05 09520, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        e.g. us
      • 2013-04-05 09529, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        :)
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      • CallerNo6
        um. no pressure or anything.
      • 2013-04-05 09543, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        no i mean
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        what we're doing today
      • 2013-04-05 09552, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        we just need to get it perfect. for the future.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        they will use it and build on it
      • 2013-04-05 09519, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        what we're doing is important stuff, our hard work will be appreciated and utilised
      • 2013-04-05 09529, 2013

      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        I'm sure of it
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Diablo Swing Orchestra ~ Balrog Boogie (3:53) (from The Butcher's Ballroom) (2006)
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      • CatCat
        grooving is appropriate in this case
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      • CatCat
        also i typed it right. i was so happy, then pressd "enter" and the word was deleted, and so i had to retype it ---__-***
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        but now i must leave us, because i am school
      • 2013-04-05 09500, 2013

      • CatCat
        yeas not using drugs or anything today, me
      • 2013-04-05 09538, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        wow. I like it.
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      • derwin
        is there any list of all registered bots at this time?
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      • nikki
        all the accounts set to bot are listed on https://musicbrainz.org/privileged
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      • nikki
        (which is in the about menu at the top)
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      • saxicek
        hi
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      • saxicek
        I have issue with replication. :-(
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      • saxicek
        musicbrainz [at musicbrainzvm]:~/musicbrainz-server$ grep REPLICATION lib/DBDefs.pm # How to connect for read-only access. See "REPLICATION_TYPE" (below) sub REPLICATION_TYPE { RT_SLAVE }
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      • saxicek
        (so it is SLAVE)
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      • saxicek
        I ran carton exec ./admin/InitDb.pl -- --createdb --import /volume1/dumps/mbdump*.tar.bz2 --echo --tmp-dir=/volume1/dumps/tmp
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      • saxicek
        but when trying to run ./run_replication.sh it fails with relation "dbmirror_pending" does not exist
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      • saxicek
        I am running it on the latest VM with the default configuration
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      • saxicek
        any idea what can be wrong? thanks
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      • saxicek
        hm, digging deeper into sources and it seems that the missing replication schema is caused by "Failed to import dataset."
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      • saxicek
        editor 688128 99% 102248Error loading /volume1/dumps/tmp/MBImport-Im2xy313/mbdump/editor_sanitised: DBD::Pg::db pg_putcopyend failed: ERROR: date/time field value out of range: "0"
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      • saxicek
        HINT: Perhaps you need a different "datestyle" setting.
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      • saxicek
        CONTEXT: COPY editor, line 1, column last_login_date: "0" at /home/musicbrainz/musicbrainz-server/admin/MBImport.pl line 296, <LOAD> line 688441.
      • 2013-04-05 09519, 2013

      • saxicek
        but I don't really know what to do with that :-(
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      • nikki
        oh, someone else had problems importing the editor table the other day...
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      • nikki
        ianmcorvidae: still around? do you remember what the fix was?
      • 2013-04-05 09539, 2013

      • saxicek
        will try to import again with --ignore-errors, maybe that will help
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      • saxicek
        is the table editor_satitised somehow important?
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      • nikki
        I'm not sure :/ if you're importing as slave, I think you might be able to get away with not including it, since it doesn't add foreign keys
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      • saxicek
        nikki: ok, thanks
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      • ianmcorvidae
        editor_sanitised is our sanitized version of the editor table, of course :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I'm not sure -- this may be a new bug, since the previous one was with a broken dump and the code has changed
      • 2013-04-05 09517, 2013

      • nikki
        ah :/
      • 2013-04-05 09545, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        apparently it's just one date or something, but
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      • ianmcorvidae
        perhaps the version of postgres is relevant? saxicek, what's your postgres version?
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      • ianmcorvidae is grabbing an editor dump, but
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      • ianmcorvidae
        also, we apparently haven't been updating that column since NGS :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (the max one, on the live DB, is 2011-05-16 11:35:30.11759+00
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      • ianmcorvidae
        )
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      • saxicek
        9.1
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      • saxicek
        ianmcorvidae: but I did update the posgresql package using apt-get
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm
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      • ianmcorvidae
        shouldn't be a problem, then
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      • ianmcorvidae
        which data dump?
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      • saxicek
        20130330-003306, now downloading the latest and will try it
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      • ianmcorvidae
        okay
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I suspect there is unlikely to be a difference
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      • ianmcorvidae
        but it's worth a shot
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      • saxicek thinks the same
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      • saxicek
        but as the original issue is with missing replication scheme, it seem that when I first create schema using "carton exec ./admin/InitDb.pl -- --createdb --clean" and then try to import "carton exec ./admin/InitDb.pl -- --import /tmp/dumps/mbdump*.tar.bz2 --echo" should help
      • 2013-04-05 09530, 2013

      • saxicek
        because then the import should not stop the rest of the schema init
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      • ianmcorvidae
        unclear, I'm not sure you can create a clean and then import on top of it
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      • saxicek
        hm :-(
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm
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      • saxicek
        because the replication init is after the import so when import fails, I cannot run replication (well it makes sense, but..)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it seems that for some reason it's only dumping member_since, and is missing email_confirm_date?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hah
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      • ianmcorvidae sees the problem
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      • ianmcorvidae
        missing comma >_<
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      • saxicek doesn't understand but hopes it is on a good way
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      • ianmcorvidae
        well, it means I can ensure the next dump isn't broken anyway :)
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      • saxicek
        ok :-) so which is last one non-broken? can it be downloaded?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        if you look at https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/… notice there's no comma on line 567, that's the error
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I'm not currently aware of a non-broken one that's available for download
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I can briefly see if I can find one for you though
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      • saxicek
        seems it may be broken since 2013-03-29
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yes
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      • ianmcorvidae
        you'll need one before 20130323
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      • ianmcorvidae
        if you can find one somewhere :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I seem to have a 20130306 sitting on my desktop; copying it anywhere to download is likely to be a pain though
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      • ianmcorvidae
        the most recent I can find that's already on a server where I won't have to copy over the internet is 20130126 :/
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      • saxicek
        ok, no problem, can wait for the next one
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I *think* that's actually tonight
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      • ianmcorvidae
        i.e. in about 18 hours
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      • Freso
        Next one what? Weekly dump?
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      • Freso
        Or twi-weekly dump.