Red Allen [and] The Kentuckians? or Red Allen [and] the Kentuckians?
2013-04-09 09954, 2013
nikki
is "[and]" supposed to be the join phrase?
2013-04-09 09923, 2013
function1
yes
2013-04-09 09900, 2013
nikki
I would do the former, or use "and the" as the join phrase
2013-04-09 09911, 2013
nikki
which doesn't really narrow down the options, but whatever
2013-04-09 09922, 2013
nikki didn't claim to be being helpful, after all :P
2013-04-09 09939, 2013
function1
that was my first guess actually
2013-04-09 09959, 2013
function1
but 'the' didn't sound like a join phrase
2013-04-09 09912, 2013
function1
or like it belonged in a join phrase
2013-04-09 09950, 2013
nikki
my reasoning is that either "the" is part of the artist name and should be capitalised, or isn't actually part of the artist name and should be lowercase and in the join phrase instead
2013-04-09 09953, 2013
function1
makes sense. i must have been overthinking this one
2013-04-09 09959, 2013
warp
nikki: that sounds way too sensible :)
2013-04-09 09914, 2013
kepstin-work
function1: are you sure "Red Allen and the Kentuckians" isn't a group that happens to have the lead singer's name in its name?
2013-04-09 09912, 2013
kepstin-work
i.e. you should only add The Kentuckians as a separate artist if they are a group on their own that happened to at some point in time collaborate with Red Allen as independant artists
2013-04-09 09956, 2013
kepstin-work
if Red Allen was a member of the Kentuckians and they changed their name after he left, then you should have "Red Allen and the Kentuckians" as an artist credit for "The Kentuckians"
2013-04-09 09936, 2013
function1
kepstin-work: it's a little ambiguous
2013-04-09 09903, 2013
function1
Red Allen is definitely a member/founder, there's a discogs artist 'the kentuckians', a separate MB artist 'the kentuckians' (though all the AC's happend to be Red Allen [&] The Kentuckians), also on the release i'm looking at there is an AC for Red Allen, Frank Wakefield, and The Kentuckians
2013-04-09 09955, 2013
function1
i don't think that last AC would be possible without separate artists
2013-04-09 09924, 2013
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kepstin-work
hmm. that last one's a bit weird, because it's basically a feat artist stuck in the middle of the artist name.
2013-04-09 09920, 2013
kepstin-work would *probably* call the group "Red Allen and the Kentuckians", and do something weird for that weird track.
2013-04-09 09930, 2013
function1
wait, here's some additional context from liner notes: "In 1959, Red moved to Washington, D.C., and re-formed the Kentuckians with the important addition of mandolin innovator Frank Wakefield."
2013-04-09 09926, 2013
kepstin-work
ah, so the Frank Wakefield version is just the band renamed themselves when they got a second featured artist
2013-04-09 09953, 2013
function1
seems that way. so two separate artists, with and without Wakefield?
2013-04-09 09947, 2013
kepstin-work
no, a single artist, with aliases that include/exclude Wakefield
2013-04-09 09941, 2013
function1
ok
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Ben\Sput
\o/ irc on android :P
2013-04-09 09926, 2013
kepstin-work
i tried that once, but my android tablet isn't very good :)
2013-04-09 09938, 2013
derwin
I tried that once and realized how much I hit "alt" and "tab" in irc
2013-04-09 09900, 2013
Ben\Sput
Yeah wait till you try using it on a phone
2013-04-09 09922, 2013
kepstin-work
this is a small tablet running android 2.3
2013-04-09 09931, 2013
kepstin-work
it basically acts like a phone
2013-04-09 09946, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox has irc on android. it works fairly well but reconnects often
2013-04-09 09946, 2013
kepstin-work
except with really bad battery life, it's a bunch heavier, and only has wifi
2013-04-09 09952, 2013
Ben\Sput
Although swiping works quite well
2013-04-09 09959, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
bensput what irc client?
2013-04-09 09959, 2013
kepstin-work
yeah, and you lose your connection when it falls asleep :)
2013-04-09 09912, 2013
function1
i have an ssh client on my iphone, connect then screen to irc :)
2013-04-09 09925, 2013
kepstin-work
function1: probably works better :)
2013-04-09 09909, 2013
Ben\Sput
It's called andchat
2013-04-09 09928, 2013
kepstin-work
yeah, that's the one i trued
2013-04-09 09931, 2013
kepstin-work
tried*
2013-04-09 09949, 2013
Ben\Sput
And yeah I just got SSH too :p
2013-04-09 09956, 2013
kepstin-work has swype keyboard on his tablet, which is nice
2013-04-09 09913, 2013
kepstin-work
aside from swype not knowing it's a tablet, so i can't use the split tablet keyboard :/
2013-04-09 09922, 2013
Ben\Sput
Not sure if I can ping people though
2013-04-09 09947, 2013
Ben\Sput
ah well I'll be back on desktop in a bit
2013-04-09 09911, 2013
kepstin-work
wow, this tablet only has 265mb ram
2013-04-09 09927, 2013
kepstin-work
firefox runs ok on it, once it loads :)
2013-04-09 09942, 2013
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hawke_1
265? strange number. ;-)
2013-04-09 09935, 2013
function1
better than 256
2013-04-09 09940, 2013
kepstin-work
heh
2013-04-09 09944, 2013
kepstin-work
you know what I mean :)
2013-04-09 09947, 2013
hawke_1
aye
2013-04-09 09908, 2013
kepstin-work got it for free, but it's still a piece of junk
2013-04-09 09916, 2013
kepstin-work
tis a 'kobo vox'
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
i just signed up to gmail. i am not sirblup at gmail
2013-04-09 09955, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
now not not
2013-04-09 09900, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
SIRBLUP!
2013-04-09 09903, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
hahahahaha
2013-04-09 09959, 2013
kepstin-work
what is that i don't even
2013-04-09 09918, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
:D
2013-04-09 09950, 2013
ZaphodBeeblebrox
UGH how o i make the "profile "cover" thing small again
2013-04-09 09903, 2013
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Jozo
everything seems pretty slow .. and 502, 500
2013-04-09 09947, 2013
abelcheung
Have been experiencing that since Easter, sometimes better, sometimes worse
2013-04-09 09916, 2013
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2013-04-09 09957, 2013
kyomi
Is there a way to implement something that would reject these types of "cover art" since it's not cover art but a picture of the package?
Those annoy me *so* much when I'm looking for cover art...
2013-04-09 09916, 2013
kyomi
Are they too lazy to take the cover art out to scan it?
2013-04-09 09908, 2013
Jozo
kyomi: cover art comes from ASIN. You may want add correct cover art (discogs has some..) and please add catalog number and barcode to that (deluxe) release :)
2013-04-09 09913, 2013
kyomi
I do not have that release
2013-04-09 09926, 2013
kyomi
I was just commenting on how horrible that cover art was :/
2013-04-09 09903, 2013
kyomi
I have another one.. I'm going through my music with mp3 diags to fix bad files and APIC problems :)
2013-04-09 09919, 2013
Jozo
kyomi: You have 16 tracks on your MP3 release? Discogs has only 17 track deluxe editions (so I'm not going to edit this release)
2013-04-09 09913, 2013
kyomi
I don't know how many are on the actual version, I delete the ones I don't like
2013-04-09 09901, 2013
Jozo
:/
2013-04-09 09928, 2013
kyomi
Well, there's no point in wasting space with a song I don't like just to have a "complete" set :P
2013-04-09 09937, 2013
reosarevok
It's a better representation of the release than no cover at all
2013-04-09 09947, 2013
reosarevok
If someone is annoyed, that's why they can upload a better version :)
2013-04-09 09904, 2013
kyomi
I'd rather have no cover at all instead of the picture of the case as cover art :/
2013-04-09 09908, 2013
reosarevok
(no, I don't like it either, and if it was uploaded to the CAA I'd ask them to re-scan without the package if possible)
2013-04-09 09913, 2013
reosarevok
(but it's certainly better)
2013-04-09 09919, 2013
reosarevok
Well, it's more useful in MB proper
2013-04-09 09933, 2013
reosarevok
I'm not too sure about the tagger - a way to say "reject this cover art" might be useful
2013-04-09 09939, 2013
kyomi
To me, that's like saying Lupus is better then the black plague
2013-04-09 09959, 2013
reosarevok
-heh
2013-04-09 09901, 2013
reosarevok
Well
2013-04-09 09906, 2013
kyomi
If what we were talking about before gets implemented, it'll solve that issue :)
2013-04-09 09915, 2013
reosarevok
One of the uses of the cover images is to help people recognise the release
2013-04-09 09925, 2013
reosarevok
and this is good enough for *that*
2013-04-09 09927, 2013
kyomi
About allowing you to select what cover art you want, even if it doesn't match the release you have :)
2013-04-09 09930, 2013
reosarevok
Another is to give pretty images
2013-04-09 09937, 2013
reosarevok
(and for that admittedly it isn't too great)
2013-04-09 09940, 2013
kyomi
I like pretty images :)
2013-04-09 09911, 2013
reosarevok
So do I,I'm just explaining why it is better than nothing from the MB point of view :)
2013-04-09 09914, 2013
kyomi
Mainly why I'm going through my ~100GB music collection and re-tagging and adding cover art :)
2013-04-09 09935, 2013
kyomi
Is it me, or is MB kinda... drunk today?
2013-04-09 09946, 2013
Jozo
(I think that release is bogus anyway... barcode from ASIN find 17 track releases...)
2013-04-09 09947, 2013
reosarevok
I don't know if you're drunk or not :)
2013-04-09 09954, 2013
reosarevok
But MB is having some issues it seems, yes
2013-04-09 09908, 2013
kyomi
Ahh, ok
2013-04-09 09916, 2013
kyomi
Sometimes that happens with Picard
2013-04-09 09940, 2013
kyomi
I'll just close it and re-open it and it's fast again
