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      • Jozo
        (we read. But you can say more clearly that we are read-only mode; I like see it same as beta thing on beta)
      • 2013-05-15 13519, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Hämeenlinna, FI
      • 2013-05-15 13523, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Or something like that
      • 2013-05-15 13557, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I'm not sure if ianmcorvidae has any plans about that
      • 2013-05-15 13522, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        it should happen at some point, yes, I haven't quite decided how it should be done
      • 2013-05-15 13542, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Behind the scenes or for display?
      • 2013-05-15 13551, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I'd expect an index of some kind
      • 2013-05-15 13553, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Yep. There is somewhat to do... (And now Sibelius is born in Hämeenlinna; I just changed "Hämeenlinna, Finland" back to "Hämeenlinna)
      • 2013-05-15 13527, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Or a view? area_country?
      • 2013-05-15 13546, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        for display
      • 2013-05-15 13551, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        it varies what people want to see
      • 2013-05-15 13558, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2013-05-15 13501, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        in the US people would probably want to see states, for example, but probably not in other places
      • 2013-05-15 13506, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I'd just expect Place, Country
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-15 13515, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        possibly canada as well
      • 2013-05-15 13515, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, we can start with place, country :p
      • 2013-05-15 13527, 2013

      • reosarevok
        And then add states for those weirdos :P
      • 2013-05-15 13541, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Honestly subdivision might be useful anyway
      • 2013-05-15 13552, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (there are several places of the same name in different subdivisions too!)
      • 2013-05-15 13557, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: it’s now as SERVER MAINTENANCE, do you know around how much time it will be like this ?
      • 2013-05-15 13500, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But less obvious to display
      • 2013-05-15 13503, 2013

      • nikki
        until it's done
      • 2013-05-15 13504, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: until it's done
      • 2013-05-15 13506, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-15 13506, 2013

      • nikki
        haha
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • jesus2099
        haha
      • 2013-05-15 13516, 2013

      • jesus2099
        arouind one day, one hour, one minute ?
      • 2013-05-15 13521, 2013

      • nikki
        not one minute
      • 2013-05-15 13524, 2013

      • jesus2099
        is it just a reboot?
      • 2013-05-15 13525, 2013

      • nikki
        hopefully not one day
      • 2013-05-15 13530, 2013

      • reosarevok
        hopefully at most one hour
      • 2013-05-15 13533, 2013

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      • 2013-05-15 13539, 2013

      • jesus2099
        crap, I was fixing a userjs…
      • 2013-05-15 13544, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If all goes well, should be less than that
      • 2013-05-15 13552, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But we have a history of not all going well
      • 2013-05-15 13502, 2013

      • jesus2099 cross fingers, upload my fix and i’ll see later if it works…
      • 2013-05-15 13530, 2013

      • jesus2099
        oh there’s test.mb !
      • 2013-05-15 13535, 2013

      • Jozo
      • 2013-05-15 13547, 2013

      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: yep, that's up
      • 2013-05-15 13551, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (and running the new code, too)
      • 2013-05-15 13555, 2013

      • jesus2099
        TEST.MB WORKS !!!!!!!!!!!!
      • 2013-05-15 13522, 2013

      • jesus2099
        (slow but still)
      • 2013-05-15 13546, 2013

      • jesus2099
        awesome… it works
      • 2013-05-15 13549, 2013

      • jesus2099
        uppload
      • 2013-05-15 13556, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        but anyway, need to reintegrate my stuff for finding a given area's country (dunno how complex the query can be for a view) at the very least
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: "anthem of" and "anthem" should be swapped (i think)
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-05-15 13515, 2013

      • reosarevok
        nikki ^
      • 2013-05-15 13520, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        it's entirely possible I put that in the upgrade script wrong
      • 2013-05-15 13525, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        someone can fix it once the site's back up
      • 2013-05-15 13528, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • 2013-05-15 13544, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I think I also put in really shitty descriptions :P
      • 2013-05-15 13558, 2013

      • reosarevok
        So, like the rest :p
      • 2013-05-15 13504, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        but hey, there's a reason I'm not a relationship editor I guess :P
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • jesus2099
        countries have become invisible in http://test.musicbrainz.org/search?query=onmyoza&…
      • 2013-05-15 13510, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        I mean, I think they might be 'description'
      • 2013-05-15 13518, 2013

      • reosarevok
        oh
      • 2013-05-15 13521, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Ok, that's a bit worse :p
      • 2013-05-15 13553, 2013

      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: that's because of the search server not being updated enough I think
      • 2013-05-15 13557, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (it works for direct search)
      • 2013-05-15 13503, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ok cool
      • 2013-05-15 13505, 2013

      • Jozo
        (I'm never liked jira's one way relations.... "this bug is related to")
      • 2013-05-15 13521, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If it still happens on the live server, we'll fix it :)
      • 2013-05-15 13545, 2013

      • jesus2099
        i thought we could have several countries for one artist now but not yet?
      • 2013-05-15 13555, 2013

      • jesus2099
        in test
      • 2013-05-15 13512, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        this adds begin/end areas, and it's something that can now be used in rels
      • 2013-05-15 13513, 2013

      • jesus2099
        there is country of birth and death but still one country box only for the artist country
      • 2013-05-15 13517, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        but nothing beyond that
      • 2013-05-15 13527, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ah ok
      • 2013-05-15 13537, 2013

      • jesus2099
        i thought there was a ticket included in this batch for that too
      • 2013-05-15 13509, 2013

      • reosarevok
        There was and it got taken off I think
      • 2013-05-15 13523, 2013

      • reosarevok
        It will probably just be done with relationships in some way or another
      • 2013-05-15 13536, 2013

      • jesus2099
        what kind of AR, a new one?
      • 2013-05-15 13502, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • 2013-05-15 13509, 2013

      • reosarevok
        What kind exactly is hard to define
      • 2013-05-15 13513, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Which is why we don't have it yet
      • 2013-05-15 13527, 2013

      • reosarevok
        We couldn't find any decent wording or anything
      • 2013-05-15 13535, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Guess we should see if style can!
      • 2013-05-15 13552, 2013

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      • 2013-05-15 13539, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Does Places need another schema change?
      • 2013-05-15 13553, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: yeah, that's why I said October
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: (I can't read:/)
      • 2013-05-15 13516, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I mean
      • 2013-05-15 13519, 2013

      • reosarevok
        It's a GSoC
      • 2013-05-15 13528, 2013

      • reosarevok
        So it should be finished more or less in time for October anyway
      • 2013-05-15 13534, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But it has to wait for it :)
      • 2013-05-15 13520, 2013

      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: Schema change release, 2013-05-15 <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=1913>
      • 2013-05-15 13525, 2013

      • Jozo
        (nyyh, It's something I waited for; I do not really care where Sibelius was born)
      • 2013-05-15 13554, 2013

      • hawke_1
        *sigh* Is it bad when I think “While I’m waiting for Musicbrainz to be down, I’ll just edit some stuff on musi…damnit!
      • 2013-05-15 13507, 2013

      • reosarevok
        hahahaha
      • 2013-05-15 13515, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        haha
      • 2013-05-15 13506, 2013

      • Jozo
        "Free Text Relationship Attribute Credits" - I like that.... (I still have none releases in hand)
      • 2013-05-15 13514, 2013

      • Jozo
        "Dynamic Work Attributes" - What this means?
      • 2013-05-15 13523, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Nothing yet
      • 2013-05-15 13530, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (for now we have the SQL only)
      • 2013-05-15 13544, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But it will allow stuff like having a specific machine-readable field for opus numbers
      • 2013-05-15 13555, 2013

      • reosarevok
        More stuff too, I guess, but that's the first use I have for it
      • 2013-05-15 13503, 2013

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      • 2013-05-15 13516, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        reosarevok: we can finally have a JASRAC work id number field :)
      • 2013-05-15 13522, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ooooh, that too, yes
      • 2013-05-15 13532, 2013

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      • 2013-05-15 13534, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, we can once somebody actually gives it an UI
      • 2013-05-15 13534, 2013

      • Jozo
        oh, good
      • 2013-05-15 13546, 2013

      • SultS
        are areas pretty much only countries right now?
      • 2013-05-15 13552, 2013

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      • 2013-05-15 13559, 2013

      • reosarevok
        SultS: until we import more stuff, yes
      • 2013-05-15 13507, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        yeah, the initial areas list is just an import of countries.
      • 2013-05-15 13507, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Subdivisions are likely to be in later today or tomorrow
      • 2013-05-15 13507, 2013

      • Jozo
        (and If I've added some info to wiki, I can use "Free Text Relationship Attribute Credits" now)
      • 2013-05-15 13510, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Cities, unsure yet
      • 2013-05-15 13523, 2013

      • nikki
        cities come after subdivisions, of course :P
      • 2013-05-15 13510, 2013

      • SultS
        ok… I tried some searching, didn’t work very well :P
      • 2013-05-15 13532, 2013

      • reosarevok
        what you mean it didn't?
      • 2013-05-15 13540, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Bug, or just were searching for cities? :)
      • 2013-05-15 13557, 2013

      • SultS
        well, cities don’t work… and only direct search works
      • 2013-05-15 13508, 2013

      • nikki
        cities aren't there yet :P
      • 2013-05-15 13509, 2013

      • reosarevok
        yeah, known and known
      • 2013-05-15 13519, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I think it should be redirecting to direct automatically though?
      • 2013-05-15 13529, 2013

      • SultS
        didn’t for me
      • 2013-05-15 13537, 2013

      • jesus2099
        :C I just fixed a userjs
      • 2013-05-15 13538, 2013

      • Lotheric
        What are the subdivisions ? states, provinces, oblasts ?
      • 2013-05-15 13540, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae, wasn't that added in the end?
      • 2013-05-15 13545, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Lotheric: all that
      • 2013-05-15 13547, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but a new regression breaks it right away ! :D
      • 2013-05-15 13549, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        no, that wasn't done
      • 2013-05-15 13549, 2013

      • Lotheric
        cool
      • 2013-05-15 13540, 2013

      • Jozo
        502
      • 2013-05-15 13514, 2013

      • jesus2099
        WTF +++ in devel channel (._.?)
      • 2013-05-15 13502, 2013

      • Jozo
        jesus2099: Someone don't like (bot) saying (it will flood about n+1 lines)
      • 2013-05-15 13542, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ianmcorvidae: I can not reply to you in devel so : no it’s not displaying correct AC now, strange that there is a regression in the exact WS I was working with ! so hopefully I saved previous state XML ! :)
      • 2013-05-15 13555, 2013

      • jesus2099
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-6292 is rewrote I try to being understood better now
      • 2013-05-15 13556, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, I commented on the ticket, figured out what you were saying
      • 2013-05-15 13516, 2013

      • jesus2099
        oh yes, great ! :)
      • 2013-05-15 13531, 2013

      • Lotheric
      • 2013-05-15 13535, 2013

      • jesus2099
        there has not been any WS ticket in this release, it’s strange…
      • 2013-05-15 13554, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        Lotheric: it's broken and will need fixing
      • 2013-05-15 13510, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: I fixed some data what you said (I didn't include source my edits) http://musicbrainz.org/artist/1b7f1eb8-bb4d-49c5-…
      • 2013-05-15 13515, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        Lotheric: but I was working on the schema change, so :)
      • 2013-05-15 13533, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: thanks :)
      • 2013-05-15 13531, 2013

      • SultS
        soo… what happens now when I merge 2 releases with different release country and date?
      • 2013-05-15 13517, 2013

      • SultS
        do I get 2 release events?
      • 2013-05-15 13527, 2013

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      • 2013-05-15 13533, 2013

      • nikki
        yes
      • 2013-05-15 13537, 2013

      • nikki
        (well, you should)
      • 2013-05-15 13546, 2013

      • kepstin-work
        who knows, that might not work yet :)
      • 2013-05-15 13505, 2013

      • SultS
        I am merging one right now, lets test it :)
      • 2013-05-15 13524, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        jesus2099: looks like it works fine on the direct lookup: https://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/recording/f5d8b632-1…
      • 2013-05-15 13545, 2013

      • reosarevok
        So it's a SEARCH bug?
      • 2013-05-15 13552, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, seems like