#musicbrainz

lol

maybe i should switch ot a text only broser

the shit it would go fast as hell

:D

CatCat: deactivating images in a graphical browser would also help (together with deactivating javascript and Flash)

needless to say: you can't actually use many pages then ;-)

reosarevok: how do i merge?

ackthet: press "Merge release" on the sidebar of all the releases you want to merge

oh... ok

lol

haha this is a masive pain :D

oh lame it requires peer review

It does

But we can look at it and vote

is it bad practise to come here and beg for votes? :P

In general, it's probably best only to ask for votes if you need them to continue editing.

can i merge a 3rd CD while waiting for the 2nd CD to merge?

next time i'll do it the other way around <_<

You can merge multiple releases at one time. I think it will fail if you try two separate merges, though.

ok

so i cant add the 3rd one till it goes though

do most things get reviewed? or if its something obscure will it take forever

you can cancel your merge

add all discs

and then merge all of them in one edit

yeah

Yeah, that's generally the easiest way

(merging all CDs in one go)

Some edits never get reviewed (and end up passing after the 7 days pending time)

Merges I try to check

btw there is just a tiny difference in the release/RG title (e/i), not sure if that's intentional

Anyway, for cases where it's needed for tagging, just asking for the votes here can make sense

Just not for every edit :)

wouldn't it be easier to hack picard to grab open edits and apply them locally?

flamingspinach: no, especially since ackthet said they prefer beets :p

haha

but for picard users

surely that should be possible, no?

But anyway, I'm unconvinced by a "use open edits" feature. I'm still worried it will lead to people making changes that go against the guidelines because they want to use them for tagging, and letting them for people to downvote

Maybe I'm just paranoid :)

hmm, that might happen

mb itself doesn't even know what the final outcome will look like, so I can't see how picard would :P

(that's why edits sit around open until they fail when modbot tries to apply them)

i don't miss it because i usually edit stuff that i don't have in collection just because i see a tiny mistake. hello VA releases :/

nikki: picard could give a best-effort approximation

in most cases that would work fine

also since it's doing everything locally it can actually try to apply the edits and figure out what's going on

and I don't think there's any way we'll ever do anything like that with the current edit system. we have enough queries that time out without adding a load more

i wish i could give the add new disc a discID

unlike the server where doing that on the whole db every time someone made a single edit would be impossible

nikki does that mean I should disable my userscripts which fetch the number of open edits on every entity page on mbz :P

the webservice is responsible for the vast vast majority of hits we get, and if people can get that information, they're going to request it for everything by default

ackthet: yeah, being able to add a disc with a discID to an existing release is something we really should allow

I'm unsure why it hasn't been worked on

Or maybe it has and it proved to be quite hard? I don't know

nikki, do you know?

because it involves the release editor

heh, well, yeah, but we have made much more pointless changes to the RE recently

*cough* trackids *cough*

hah, the all mighty release editor without bugs

Yet we can't add the one thing that actually is useful for everyone :/

yeah and look at how much broke in the process

Yeah, I know :p

I'm just sad that if we were to implement one thing, it was that and not this

Well, hopefully bitmap's work will make it a bit simpler

ahhh the things i do instead of working on actual research

mb is like a black hole

it will suck you in :P

i must have propert tags!

i really hope http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5130 will be worked on at some point in the future. because of the checkbox "copy all changes", many potentially wrong edits are being entered very often.

I really hope if it's changed, there's a second option for the current behaviour

i was thinking about the possibilities

Because more often than not it's what I want when I enter such an edit, even if I changed nothing more than one letter

the best option i found was to display like 10 checkmarks :P

(stuff like some editor fixing a tracklist but forgetting / not knowing how to do the recordings)

yeah, i do that too

but i also see people changing multiple recording names/artists/durations just because they changed 1 typo

i was thinking about checkmarks: all track info->recordings, track titles->recordings, track artists->recordings, track durations->recordings, my tracklist changes-> recordings, my track title changes->recordings, my track artist changes->recordings, my track duration changes->recordings

but that's too many:P

has there ever been talk of a musicbrainz for movies?

moviebrainz

yes

But we have few resources as is

:(

So, the only clear way I can see us doing it is either someone coming and saying "I'll pay for the development" or someone coming and saying "I want to do this for free, it sounds fun"

(and the only one I can see getting finished is the former)

reosarevok: so im on the discid tab... how do i add?

There was a plan to do a bookbrainz, but it stalled because we just didn't have the time

mmm that would also be nice

Oh, heh. There should be a link there to a page that explains how to add them, but with Picard

I have no idea if beets has an option for it...

i have the discid

i cant just add it? :(

What do you mean you have it? :)

like, when i got to rip a CD in prints hte discID out

Oh

So

You use the URL it gives

:)

oo

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Without mm. I guess

duh

(I didn't know we had mm. - what is that anyway? :/ ianmcorvidae?)

it's just an alias for the main site

oh

ok

as ruaok put it when someone else was asking about it the other day

it was old-style future-proofing

as I put it, that the future ended up making obsolete :)

the notion was it should be possible to put that stuff on a different server if that ended up useful

but then things like nginx came along that make that easy to do anyway, so :P

I guess we can't remove it though, given how that program at least uses it

Well, whatever

yeah, but it doesn't really matter

it's a line in a DNS config somewhere and that's basically it :P

Anyway, I'm off to play some Crusader Kings and sleep, but I'm sure other people here can help further if needed :)

i think that url is generated by the linux library

Night! :)

later reo

reosarevok: thanks for the help!

aww damn

what program uses the submission_url in a non-transparent way?

JonnyJD_: are you asking what that program was?

its morituri (a high security CD ripper)

ackthet: looks like morituri is what you used

yeah

hm, okay. submission_url is used transparently

I was thinking about skipping the whole redirection and return the real/current URL with libdiscid, but I am not sure if anything depends on this url having a certain form