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reosarevok: not sure what the contents of this table means http://andrzejbuda.blog.onet.pl/2011/11/23/list... , you can search for the release name there :P

lidel, I summon you!

\o/

reosarevok: you're a good summoner :D

(quick, I am about to go to bed ;D)

culinko, I'll leave you with our local Pole

:D

basically, we are trying to figure out if the release is one release or two

culinko, this table contains top selling albums for october 2011

yeah, but we tried to figure out what does there mean the two labels

there is no legend to the table:)

ah, i'll check

okay, so as you suspected, Magic Records is a sub-company of Universal Music Polska

it is explicitly stated at http://www.universalmusic.pl/ofirmie

“W skład polskiego oddziału Universalu wchodzą trzy spółki: Universal Music Polska Sp. z o. o., Magic Records Sp. z o. o. oraz Universal Music Publishing Sp. z o. o.”

so.. Magic Records is a sub-division of Universal Polska, which is a sub-division of Universal Records :-))

yeah, but why is there a different cat no:)

that's the only mystery to me

one is a part of another, I guess its an internal convention of universal polska

so, safe to merge?

in my opinion, yes

but i am just a kitty that is going to bed, bye! ;-)

bye and thanks;)

gonna go too, wish it wasn't so hot in here :/ thanks all involved, gn

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reosarevok: would it be easy to make it so that junodownload links get extra cleanup, when they are added to a release (as opposed to a recording)?

related to http://musicbrainz.org/url/fc561e41-2f39-4a96-b...

I don't think we really have a way to specify that right now

On the other hand, it should be possible to block adding junodownload pages that contain "trackid" to a release

But it would only say "this is not an allowed URL" which might prove confusing

actually, I’m not sure that keeping trackid on any junodownload link is nessesary at all

http://musicbrainz.org/url/4a564082-5d09-4cca-a... would still be correct without it, IMO

or I’ll just fix the 2 incorrect URLs and be done with it

oh, this could still possibly cleaned up: http://musicbrainz.org/url/949b3d11-dc69-4ec5-8... ?

I'd be more tempted to say they don't have recording pages and should be adding to releases only

How should that one be cleaned up?

not sure if that previous link ever worked, but right now it timeouts

to https://www.junodownload.com/products/1355298-02/ likely

It was added in 2010 - maybe back then it was how it worked

hmm… that doesn’t load either for me

so maybe

https://www.junodownload.com/products/1355298-02/ still times out, yeah

actually, that might be the https part that times out

heh

yeah, was going to say that

The page 404s anyway though

Seems to be http://www.junodownload.com/products/shifting-g... now? But that was added in 2011

perhaps the date is from the time they made the change, not sure

plenty of 404s here: http://notlob.eu/urlsearch/?url=www.junodownloa...

:(

but it does seem it’s fine to autocorrect http://www.junodownload.com/products/2007090-02... to http://www.junodownload.com/products/2007090-02/

if it works with one, it works with another

and I’ve seen more ending with /

(that’s how junodownload links internally

)

Is such a link public nowadays?

Because cleanup in code won't change old links

So if new links aren't getting added like that, it'd be pointless

(asking because I'm not seeing them on the site)

what do you mean by public?

If there's any place they could be copying such a link from

On the site itself, nowadays

oh

perhaps not…

If not, we should just run a bot over the old links and that's it

not sure either way

yeah, true

probably that is enough

heh, there aren't that many

No need for a bot, I'll change them by hand

some of them are 404 though :)

Should I just remove those?

I would

Ok

I’ve seen identical releases on junodownload existing simultaneously before, just with one having different date

so maybe that’s how it was with the other release

Meh :)

They should put us in charge of digital distribution of stuff

heh http://musicbrainz.org/url/1095c22b-1d5b-4296-9... … not sure everything works better on a recording level :P

each recording is linked to like 4 different stores

I wouldn't be against that if it was to recording pages

But that's a release page in JD, a release ASIN...

An iTunes album :p

I mean, I'm happy to put recording URLs on recordings (like bandcamp track URLs)

But this seems silly :)

amazon has track URLs too, but it might be too much of a hassle to fix :P

Yeah, I know

I mean, feel free to change them :p

Or remove them

But please make something with that mess :D

yeah, but first I will merge the identical releases that the recordings are on :P

added by the same user as well ;)

I don't really like putting things like amazon's "track" urls on recordings, since they're urls for tracks on specific releases (which even say "from suchandsuch album"), which isn't what our recordings are, so not only is it a lot of extra work, it's not even entirely correct and there's already a release url that would work perfectly well

Hmm, I guess

there are some times when the recording is the closest thing we have that we can link to, of course

but in cases where they're providing a perfectly good release url, I prefer only using that

I don’t even know if anyone has actually knowingly recording to an amazon track, just that it’s a thing that could be done

some people have

I didn’t do that though

Heh

if it's possible, someone's done it, basically :P

Some artists put a purchase link *everywhere* it seems to kinda fit

:p

and everywhere it doesn't kinda fit

(and in some places where it doesn't)

heh, yeah

:/

371 amazon urls on recordings

I think that should be all of the JD htms

it still looks better than http://musicbrainz.org/release/5e8af826-5cf3-44...

that release accounts for 72 of them :P

Should we just block Amazon on recordings? :/

that might just be justifiable

https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/ea23d1c2-c... 60 more, same editor