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      • culinko
        reosarevok: not sure what the contents of this table means http://andrzejbuda.blog.onet.pl/2011/11/23/lista-… , you can search for the release name there :P
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      • reosarevok
        lidel, I summon you!
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      • lidel
        \o/
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      • culinko
        reosarevok: you're a good summoner :D
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      • lidel
        (quick, I am about to go to bed ;D)
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      • reosarevok
        culinko, I'll leave you with our local Pole
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      • culinko
        :D
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      • reosarevok keeps fighting operetta
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      • culinko
        basically, we are trying to figure out if the release is one release or two
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      • culinko
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      • lidel
        culinko, this table contains top selling albums for october 2011
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      • culinko
        yeah, but we tried to figure out what does there mean the two labels
      • 2013-07-07 18850, 2013

      • culinko
        there is no legend to the table:)
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      • lidel
        ah, i'll check
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      • lidel
        okay, so as you suspected, Magic Records is a sub-company of Universal Music Polska
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      • lidel
        it is explicitly stated at http://www.universalmusic.pl/ofirmie
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      • lidel
        “W skład polskiego oddziału Universalu wchodzą trzy spółki: Universal Music Polska Sp. z o. o., Magic Records Sp. z o. o. oraz Universal Music Publishing Sp. z o. o.”
      • 2013-07-07 18853, 2013

      • lidel
        so.. Magic Records is a sub-division of Universal Polska, which is a sub-division of Universal Records :-))
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      • culinko
        yeah, but why is there a different cat no:)
      • 2013-07-07 18851, 2013

      • culinko
        that's the only mystery to me
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      • lidel
        one is a part of another, I guess its an internal convention of universal polska
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      • culinko
        so, safe to merge?
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      • lidel
        in my opinion, yes
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      • lidel
        but i am just a kitty that is going to bed, bye! ;-)
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      • culinko
        bye and thanks;)
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      • culinko
        gonna go too, wish it wasn't so hot in here :/ thanks all involved, gn
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      • CallerNo6
        youtube blurbs are the best. "This and "King of the Dead" are masterpieces. This may be the most underrated West Coast metal band of the early 80's. It's aged far better than Metallica's catalogue, that's for sure."
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        is logging
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      • verne.freenode.net
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      • SultS
        reosarevok: would it be easy to make it so that junodownload links get extra cleanup, when they are added to a release (as opposed to a recording)?
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      • SultS
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      • reosarevok
        I don't think we really have a way to specify that right now
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      • reosarevok
        On the other hand, it should be possible to block adding junodownload pages that contain "trackid" to a release
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      • reosarevok
        But it would only say "this is not an allowed URL" which might prove confusing
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      • SultS
        actually, I’m not sure that keeping trackid on any junodownload link is nessesary at all
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      • SultS
        http://musicbrainz.org/url/4a564082-5d09-4cca-a1a… would still be correct without it, IMO
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      • SultS
        or I’ll just fix the 2 incorrect URLs and be done with it
      • 2013-07-07 18854, 2013

      • SultS
        oh, this could still possibly cleaned up: http://musicbrainz.org/url/949b3d11-dc69-4ec5-82f… ?
      • 2013-07-07 18858, 2013

      • SultS
        automatically
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      • reosarevok
        I'd be more tempted to say they don't have recording pages and should be adding to releases only
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      • reosarevok shrugs
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      • reosarevok
        How should that one be cleaned up?
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      • SultS
        not sure if that previous link ever worked, but right now it timeouts
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      • SultS
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      • reosarevok
        It was added in 2010 - maybe back then it was how it worked
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      • SultS
        hmm… that doesn’t load either for me
      • 2013-07-07 18837, 2013

      • SultS
        so maybe
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      • reosarevok
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      • SultS
        actually, that might be the https part that times out
      • 2013-07-07 18845, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
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      • reosarevok
        yeah, was going to say that
      • 2013-07-07 18858, 2013

      • reosarevok
        The page 404s anyway though
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      • reosarevok
        Seems to be http://www.junodownload.com/products/shifting-gea… now? But that was added in 2011
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      • SultS
        perhaps the date is from the time they made the change, not sure
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      • SultS
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      • reosarevok
        :(
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      • SultS
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      • SultS
        if it works with one, it works with another
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      • SultS
        and I’ve seen more ending with /
      • 2013-07-07 18832, 2013

      • SultS
        (that’s how junodownload links internally
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      • SultS
        )
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      • reosarevok
        Is such a link public nowadays?
      • 2013-07-07 18822, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Because cleanup in code won't change old links
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      • reosarevok
        So if new links aren't getting added like that, it'd be pointless
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      • reosarevok
        (asking because I'm not seeing them on the site)
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      • SultS
        what do you mean by public?
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      • reosarevok
        If there's any place they could be copying such a link from
      • 2013-07-07 18815, 2013

      • reosarevok
        On the site itself, nowadays
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      • SultS
        oh
      • 2013-07-07 18836, 2013

      • SultS
        perhaps not…
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      • reosarevok
        If not, we should just run a bot over the old links and that's it
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      • SultS
        not sure either way
      • 2013-07-07 18852, 2013

      • SultS
        yeah, true
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      • SultS
        probably that is enough
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      • reosarevok
        heh, there aren't that many
      • 2013-07-07 18847, 2013

      • reosarevok
        No need for a bot, I'll change them by hand
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      • SultS
        some of them are 404 though :)
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      • reosarevok
        Should I just remove those?
      • 2013-07-07 18834, 2013

      • SultS
        I would
      • 2013-07-07 18814, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • SultS
        I’ve seen identical releases on junodownload existing simultaneously before, just with one having different date
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      • SultS
        so maybe that’s how it was with the other release
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      • reosarevok
        Meh :)
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      • reosarevok
        They should put us in charge of digital distribution of stuff
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      • SultS
        heh http://musicbrainz.org/url/1095c22b-1d5b-4296-947… … not sure everything works better on a recording level :P
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      • SultS
        each recording is linked to like 4 different stores
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      • reosarevok
        I wouldn't be against that if it was to recording pages
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      • reosarevok
        But that's a release page in JD, a release ASIN...
      • 2013-07-07 18803, 2013

      • reosarevok
        An iTunes album :p
      • 2013-07-07 18834, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I mean, I'm happy to put recording URLs on recordings (like bandcamp track URLs)
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      • reosarevok
        But this seems silly :)
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      • SultS
        amazon has track URLs too, but it might be too much of a hassle to fix :P
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I know
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, feel free to change them :p
      • 2013-07-07 18838, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Or remove them
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      • reosarevok
        But please make something with that mess :D
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      • reosarevok is still on the JD .htm
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      • SultS
        yeah, but first I will merge the identical releases that the recordings are on :P
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      • reosarevok shakes his head
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      • SultS
        added by the same user as well ;)
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      • nikki
        I don't really like putting things like amazon's "track" urls on recordings, since they're urls for tracks on specific releases (which even say "from suchandsuch album"), which isn't what our recordings are, so not only is it a lot of extra work, it's not even entirely correct and there's already a release url that would work perfectly well
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm, I guess
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      • nikki
        there are some times when the recording is the closest thing we have that we can link to, of course
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      • nikki
        but in cases where they're providing a perfectly good release url, I prefer only using that
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      • SultS
        I don’t even know if anyone has actually knowingly recording to an amazon track, just that it’s a thing that could be done
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      • nikki
        some people have
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      • SultS
        I didn’t do that though
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      • reosarevok
        Heh
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      • nikki
        if it's possible, someone's done it, basically :P
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      • reosarevok
        Some artists put a purchase link *everywhere* it seems to kinda fit
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      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • nikki
        and everywhere it doesn't kinda fit
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      • reosarevok
        (and in some places where it doesn't)
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      • reosarevok
        heh, yeah
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      • SultS
        :/
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      • nikki
        371 amazon urls on recordings
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      • reosarevok
        I think that should be all of the JD htms
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      • nikki
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      • SultS
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      • nikki
        that release accounts for 72 of them :P
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      • reosarevok
        Should we just block Amazon on recordings? :/
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      • SultS
        that might just be justifiable
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      • nikki