this is a possibility, however current state of database doesn't seem very up to date...
2013-07-22 20322, 2013
Fluke
at least for "forreign" releases...
2013-07-22 20324, 2013
kepstin-work
Fluke: then add it to the database! :)
2013-07-22 20307, 2013
Fluke
I am slowly filling it, but to add each release would be a nightmare :)
2013-07-22 20334, 2013
kepstin-work
hmm, depends on your interpretation I suppose.
2013-07-22 20346, 2013
Fluke
well I usually add first release (vinyl) plus most widely used CD release...
2013-07-22 20328, 2013
Fluke
however the things I'm entering can easily have 7 releases... :)
2013-07-22 20331, 2013
kepstin-work just adds the exact release that he has in most cases.
2013-07-22 20354, 2013
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2013-07-22 20322, 2013
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2013-07-22 20331, 2013
hawke_1
Adding earliest release is nice just to get the $originaldate
2013-07-22 20314, 2013
Fluke
yes, that's why I'm doing it :)
2013-07-22 20324, 2013
xteejx
Oh how I wish for a working earliest recording (not release) :(
2013-07-22 20359, 2013
kepstin-work
xteejx: I guess we need recording groups for that :)
2013-07-22 20306, 2013
xteejx
Hmm
2013-07-22 20316, 2013
kepstin-work
(although you might be able to figure it out from work links)
2013-07-22 20335, 2013
xteejx
tbh I'm surprised I'm the only one using MB for this purpose. Actually thought someone would've coded something up by now to search thru the recordings
2013-07-22 20300, 2013
kepstin-work
the issue is that we're missing a lot of the info required to implement that right now
2013-07-22 20319, 2013
kepstin-work
we have a lot of duplicate recordings, a lot of recordings linked to no works, etc.
You can search there…and create new if it doesn’t exist yet.
2013-07-22 20320, 2013
xteejx
So no need to mess about merging then?
2013-07-22 20325, 2013
hawke_1
Right.
2013-07-22 20342, 2013
xteejx
Why didn't you tell me about this before? ;) hehe
2013-07-22 20352, 2013
hawke_1
IMO the relationship editor is too hidden.
2013-07-22 20305, 2013
xteejx
It is I agree with you
2013-07-22 20313, 2013
hawke_1
Originally it was another tab up with the 'edit' tab, but when it went to beta they moved it for some reason
2013-07-22 20327, 2013
xteejx
Too visible? ha
2013-07-22 20313, 2013
hawke_1
Dunno
2013-07-22 20321, 2013
hawke_1
bitmap might know, he wrote the thing. ;-)
2013-07-22 20352, 2013
xteejx
So, question...
2013-07-22 20309, 2013
bitmap
not really any reason except the sidebar is where all the other edit links were :)
2013-07-22 20341, 2013
hawke_1
bitmap: except for 'edit [release]'
2013-07-22 20352, 2013
xteejx
Does this make things more visible as far as linked things are (does that make sense?), and will it be parseable by Picard in that it can use Advanced Relationships to find originaldate ?
2013-07-22 20342, 2013
hawke_1
Not sure about the first part, but the second: no, Picard cannot use this info for original date.
2013-07-22 20355, 2013
hawke_1
It does make it more visible in that you can have information about composer/lyricist
2013-07-22 20305, 2013
hawke_1
and gives a central point for all recordings of that song.
2013-07-22 20318, 2013
xteejx
That doesn't give me what I need :(
2013-07-22 20323, 2013
hawke_1
and also lets it show up on the related artists’ works page.
2013-07-22 20336, 2013
xteejx
ah
2013-07-22 20349, 2013
hawke_1
Yeah, there is no way to get what you need (and we all would like) …at least not yet.
2013-07-22 20329, 2013
xteejx
I was beginning to think I was the only one asking for some obscure combination of datasets I'll be honest :p
2013-07-22 20307, 2013
hawke_1
Until recently, that information would have just been inaccurate anyway, so there wasn’t any real reason to do it
2013-07-22 20310, 2013
xteejx
the Jaikoz tagger seems to do some of this searching backwards in time though for that recording...?
2013-07-22 20319, 2013
hawke_1
(because recordings used to be something like 'masters')
2013-07-22 20326, 2013
hawke_1
Maybe, dunno about jaikoz
2013-07-22 20342, 2013
xteejx
shame I can't pinch that search functionality from it ;)
2013-07-22 20316, 2013
xteejx Kate Middleton has just had the baby FYI anyone that's interested
2013-07-22 20331, 2013
reosarevok
Who?
2013-07-22 20346, 2013
xteejx
The boy will be the future King
2013-07-22 20309, 2013
reosarevok
Oh, some weird Brit thing :p
2013-07-22 20311, 2013
xteejx
Kate Middleton, wife of HRH William of Wales
2013-07-22 20316, 2013
xteejx
reosarevok, yeah lol
2013-07-22 20329, 2013
ianmcorvidae doesn't get all excited about other rich kids destined to become prolific public speakers, not likely to do so about this one :P
2013-07-22 20358, 2013
reosarevok
ianmcorvidae, you socialist!!!
2013-07-22 20359, 2013
reosarevok
:p
2013-07-22 20312, 2013
ianmcorvidae
something like that
2013-07-22 20321, 2013
xteejx
oh don't worry I'm the same, don't give a crap to be perfectly honest, just saw it on bbc news :p
2013-07-22 20320, 2013
xteejx
Would it be naughty of me to merge a recording with the original recording? Not going to start doing it without an OK from you guys
2013-07-22 20327, 2013
hawke_1
Depends on what the basis is for merge.
2013-07-22 20338, 2013
hawke_1
If it’s a remix, then yes it would be naughty. :-)
2013-07-22 20349, 2013
xteejx
Ah no even I'm not that stupid ;)
2013-07-22 20300, 2013
hawke_1
Otherwise there’s a lot more leeway.
2013-07-22 20331, 2013
xteejx
Ok, when I find an example, can I throw it your way?
I wonder if advertising through the station to get free CDs that people are just going to throw away. After they've been checked/entered into MB I can give them to a local charity shop
2013-07-22 20317, 2013
hawke_1
Not a bad idea.
2013-07-22 20354, 2013
xteejx
Think of the info ;)
2013-07-22 20317, 2013
xteejx
DiscIDs, track names, all the little bits from the liner notes :D
