I don't know how common it is elsewhere, but in Finland it's also fairly common to "choose" the primary name that is not the first name.
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srotta_
Meaning, the first names usually follow a certain rhythm, and by default you're called by the first name, but may choose to use the middle name as your primary first name.
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reosarevok
srotta_: do you consider it a middle name, or just one of a pair of names?
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srotta_
Well, there's no word for middle name, so that might tell you something 8)
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srotta_
Usually it's referred as "second/third first name". Which makes sense.
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CatQuest
we have the idea of "middle name" here
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CatQuest
but also there is like "linn-Renate"
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CatQuest
my mothers name was "May-Britt"
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CatQuest
but my uncle is Roy Henning
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srotta_
But I guess the concept still stands - a person has a name which is usually only used in official documents. It might derive from family tradition, but that's not necessary, and patronyms are considered oldfashioned.
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CatQuest
and their father was.. iirk "Rolf Henry"
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CatQuest
and you don't use the middlename much
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CatQuest
....
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srotta_
CatQuest: Yes, combining names with a hyphen is also relatively common. It then depends on the person whether the whole combination or a part of it is used.
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CatQuest
yea
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CatQuest
the my mother was the whole name, but the "linn" girl (a girl in my class) used often just linn
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nikki
I think when names are hyphenated in the uk, they're normally seen as a single unit
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CatQuest
if i remember correctly that is. it's almost 25 years now
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CatQuest
nikki: yes, here too
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nikki
so saying only one half would be like only saying half the syllables :P
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reosarevok
I mean, probably related to the fact that "May-Britt" is much shorter and nicer than "linn-Renate" (seriously parents?)
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CatQuest
nikki: exactly
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CatQuest
:D
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CatQuest
I don't remember though.. it might be.. hang on.. I think maybe we *did* call here "linn-renate"
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CatQuest
yea
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nikki
when there's two names not hyphenated, the second one is nearly always an annoying middle name with no use at all
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reosarevok
Here (in Estonia I mean) hyphenated names are reasonably common, but I think it's a bit like in Finland, some use it all, some just a part of it
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CatQuest grumbles at his wall which is now crumbling allready
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CatQuest
I've been working for ayear in there e *shakes fist*
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jesus2099
th1rtyf0ur: yeah it was the case for DVD, France and Japan same region. But I never used bluray yet. Just once I was offered a jamesbond crap bluray with my PSN account I sold it immediately. :)
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th1rtyf0ur
sometimes people go by first+middle, like Billy Bob, or Jean-Luc :D
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jesus2099
I would love to get a concert bluray but not yet..
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th1rtyf0ur actually has a cousin named Jon Luke
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CatQuest
I consider "Jean-Luc" one name, but Billy Bob two different noes
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jesus2099
Correct :)
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jesus2099
For jean-luc at least
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CatQuest
my mother's name was not May but May-Britt
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jesus2099
H cat
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CatQuest
H 2099!
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jesus2099
Hi
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CatQuest
that sounds like an element..
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jesus2099
I'm in Vietnam :)
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CatQuest
woa
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CatQuest
is it neat?
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jesus2099
I'm in family, step-family? As usual, cool (south) :)
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jesus2099
I only have one CD on my wish list this time...
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reosarevok
hahaha, email to info [at musicbrainz]
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reosarevok
"It is nice to know that you are in line of auto security products"
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th1rtyf0ur
lol
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jesus2099
I'm not sure to. Have time discover new stuff by listening in shops this time...
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th1rtyf0ur
reo- i've gotten some bizarrely niche spams... chicken wire, PET bottle manufacturing, etc.
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jesus2099
Chicken wire?
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th1rtyf0ur
guess those are the ones that aren't so obvious they get caught by the filters
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th1rtyf0ur
yeah, i know, right? and always from china
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jesus2099
Where are you living 34?
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th1rtyf0ur
tokyo
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jesus2099
I love all those second hand shops over there
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jesus2099
Games CD,
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jesus2099
Games and CD
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th1rtyf0ur
Book Off :D
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jesus2099
Etc.
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jesus2099
In my town Paris there is one book off, but it's nothing compared to the real stuff
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th1rtyf0ur
haven't seen one in person, but apparently there's some Hard Off stores, too. lol
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jesus2099
But it's cool to have it though I found some cool stuff anyway, but very seldom and always expensive
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th1rtyf0ur
for hardware, apparently
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jesus2099
There are lots of second hand computer shops too indeed.
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jesus2099
But I don't change my computer often... It lasts 10 years or more usually... :)
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th1rtyf0ur
Japantown in San Francisco had a kunikuniya, but it was way overpriced. ￥3000 CDs would be listed at $40, and that was when it was like ￥130=$1
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jesus2099
And where are you from 34?
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th1rtyf0ur
er, kinokuniya
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th1rtyf0ur
US
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jesus2099
A?
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th1rtyf0ur
no, the other US :D
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jesus2099
Ah ok. :)
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jesus2099
I have not been to Japan since 2011.3. When Ly Japanese friends came live my home with their child fro as long as they could...
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jesus2099
My , not LY
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jesus2099
Then they been thrown away by France and they moved from Tokyo to Kyoto.
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th1rtyf0ur
are visas strict in FR?
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jesus2099
Quite, yes.
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jesus2099
Near impossible when you come from poor country like Vietnam, you need a miracle than does happen from time to time. Usually for Japanese it's ok, but it was during our former president Sarkozy era, very closed, probably...
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jesus2099
And not to mention that French authorities say that nuclear is good for health anyway.
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jesus2099
You cannot invoke that threat to your health. ;)
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jesus2099
I franc
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jesus2099
In France
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th1rtyf0ur
ha. in JP it's like "oh, of course no radioactive water is leaking into the ground/ocean". And then it's proven that it is.
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th1rtyf0ur
I assume your friends came to FR after the big earthquake?
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jesus2099
I guess al heavy users of nuke countries say same crap
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jesus2099
Yes
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jesus2099
Young children they were afraid the nuclear leak and the house was starting to crumble down too anyway...
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th1rtyf0ur
so you were here for the quake then?
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CatQuest
youtube is awesome
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CatQuest
sorry i went away a bit the celing is crumbling and my neighbour is compling about food falling down to the balcony he never uses
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CatQuest
oh yea and summer is over :/
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th1rtyf0ur
it is? in what hemisphere?
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reosarevok
Well, the weather is probably shitty in Scandinavia today :p It's still quite OK in here, let's see how long it lasts...
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th1rtyf0ur
we've had a few 35+℃ days here already, but I'm sure there'll be plenty more thru mid-september -_-;
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reosarevok
It was 26 here yesterday and I was boiling
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reosarevok
I didn't move to the cold to be hot!
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th1rtyf0ur
humidity here is horrible in the summer. my friends visiting from singapore, phillipines & thailand all say it's nicer back home
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CatQuest
summer is genrally over end of july/mid august in norway
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CatQuest
there's been some tropical (e.g.: 20 or above at night) nights her ethgouh
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CatQuest
:]
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CatQuest
henusrally
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CatQuest
erh
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CatQuest
genusrally
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CatQuest
an usual species
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jesus2099
Sorry 34 I had been disconnected
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jesus2099
I like hot and humid rather than dry, a lot.
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jesus2099
I've been to humid Singapore Japan Vietnam and to dry morocco, dry and hot is HELLISH LIKE HELL.
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jesus2099
Morocco, spell checker didn't add the caps
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jesus2099
Bye bye cat
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CatQuest
oh?
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ianmcorvidae
hello thomasvs
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ianmcorvidae
er
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ianmcorvidae
dammit tab-complete!
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reosarevok
hahaha
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thomasvs
ianmcorvidae, thanks for fixing me up
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reosarevok
poor ianweller, getting stripped of that he never had!
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ianmcorvidae
why irssi doesn't tab-complete /mode -o to only include people who actually, y'know, have ops, I'm not sure :P
