16:40 PM
jesus2099
ah ok I wait 1 minute and then ok
16:41 PM
kepstin-work
how are you posting to the list? it might just be a restriction on that interface.
16:42 PM
jesus2099
16:42 PM
ok done, i have to wait 1 or 2 minute between each post or something like that
16:43 PM
kepstin-work
ah, yeah, that restriction is just on nabble because they don't want people to use nabble for spam
16:43 PM
if you sent emails directly, you wouldn't have that problem.
16:44 PM
jesus2099
sending e-mails ? oww, come on… ;)
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
or through gmane
16:44 PM
gmane is superior to mail-archive and nabble
16:44 PM
hawke_1
email is hard, let’s go shopping? :-)
16:44 PM
jesus2099
gmane is quite strange stuff i don’t understand it :)
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
if you use emacs, you can connect to it from the gnus newsreader
16:44 PM
kepstin-work
well, all nabble does is take the stuff you type in, convert it to an email from a fake address, then send it to the list.
16:44 PM
jesus2099
uh oh
16:44 PM
flamingspinach
or you can use the web interface
16:45 PM
(well, or any other news reader program :P)
16:45 PM
hawke_1
Thunderbird! :-D
16:45 PM
jesus2099
kepstin-work: not a fake adress it’s only me setting a fake adress, otherwise you’re supposed to post with your true validated adress
16:45 PM
but that’s not jesus2099 friendly
16:46 PM
kepstin-work
jesus2099: we don't allow secondary release types to be used only for one primary type.
16:46 PM
just fyi :)
16:46 PM
kepstin-work would add "mini-album" either as a new primary type or an alternative name to EP
16:47 PM
jesus2099
and when the same artist has both mini album and EP ? (like Galneryus)
16:47 PM
IIRC
16:47 PM
ah then would add "mini-album" is ok
16:47 PM
kepstin-work
and maxi-single is... tricky. it's more of a media description (12cm vs 8cm or 12" vs 7")
16:47 PM
jesus2099
indeed
16:48 PM
not only
16:48 PM
kepstin-work
and we already record the media size :)
16:48 PM
jesus2099
in fr when we had singles. they were all on 12cm but we had singles (A or A+B) and maxi sinfgles (more than A+B)
16:48 PM
kepstin-work
I would support adding "Mini-Album" as a new primary type, but not as a secondary type.
16:49 PM
jesus2099
imo mini albums should be displayed in line with albums, not appart, this is why i prefer sub-type
16:49 PM
Lotheric
I would argue that a mini-album is a short album therefore an album
16:49 PM
kepstin-work
well, subtypes can be used with any primary type.
16:49 PM
jesus2099
(thinking of onmyo-za)
16:49 PM
maybe subtypes can be used with any primary type is a limitation that must be got rid of ?
16:49 PM
kepstin-work
Lotheric: it really is a separate type of release, imo; particularly in japanese usage.
16:49 PM
jesus2099: no, that's the reason for secondary types
16:49 PM
they aren't subtypes
16:50 PM
jesus2099
ah
16:50 PM
hawke_1
New image uploader is awesome, btw.
16:50 PM
kepstin-work
primary types are for things that are exclusive - something can't be an album and single at the same time
16:50 PM
jesus2099
but mini albums i know in jpn are not to be extracted out of the album timeline
16:50 PM
kepstin-work
secondary types can be combined with other things.
16:50 PM
jesus2099
like Lotheric they are just smaller albums
16:50 PM
says
16:50 PM
so not different from album, just smallers
16:51 PM
Lotheric
but then we have EP that are shorter LP
16:51 PM
hehe
16:51 PM
jesus2099
but EP are apart from albums
16:51 PM
mini albums shouldn’t
16:51 PM
EP are like "side projects"
16:51 PM
Lotheric
not always
16:51 PM
jesus2099
like hors-série (don’t know how to say)
16:52 PM
flamingspinach: what is mail-archive ?
16:52 PM
kepstin-work
16:52 PM
jesus2099
any of opera users here have migrated to the new chromium opera yet ?
16:53 PM
kepstin-work
16:53 PM
jesus2099
to be honset when i end up on such pages in web searches i usually fear away ;)
16:54 PM
but thanks ) :
16:54 PM
snartal
ok, my 413 Request Entity Too Large... seems come from to be trying to add a jpg, however it is under the 10mb limit
16:54 PM
jesus2099
no chromium opera migrated peoeplK ?
16:54 PM
Lotheric has Opera but rarely use it
16:55 PM
snartal: 10mb is huge for a bug screenshot
16:55 PM
Lotheric
I just updated it
16:55 PM
jesus2099
you should be more around 100k something
16:55 PM
Lotheric: the superior to v12 ?
16:55 PM
v13 or something ?
16:55 PM
opera:about
16:56 PM
Lotheric
v12.16 it says it's the latest
16:56 PM
snartal
My screenshot is 1.25mb.... I was referring to where it says maximum file upload size is 10.00mb
16:56 PM
Lotheric
updated from within the program
16:56 PM
jesus2099
ah ok so you’re still in "normal" opera, like me… the nexrt one is so different they don’t force it with the inline updater
16:57 PM
it’s like you loose every thing… IRC, e-mail, shortcuts, hacking, feeds, etc.
16:57 PM
Lotheric
I just use it when I have a problem with a specific site to compare (or I try with Firefox wihch I have as well)
16:57 PM
ouch that's a radical change
16:57 PM
jesus2099
because it seems they have dropped everything and they took chromium with an opera logo :/
16:57 PM
adding just mouse gestures (from the huge opera feature list) back in
16:58 PM
snartal
ok, I zipped it and it worked.... dunno what is up with that.
16:58 PM
jesus2099
zipping a jpeg ?
16:58 PM
sounds wrong
16:58 PM
snartal
Dunno what to tell ya, it worked.
16:59 PM
jesus2099
well, ya know…
16:59 PM
MBS-6666 !!!!!!!!!!!
16:59 PM
HOLY BEAST
17:00 PM
flamingspinach
聖獣
17:00 PM
jesus2099
ww
17:00 PM
↑how31337
17:01 PM
flamingspinach: do you have a screen that wide ?
17:01 PM
omgbbq
17:01 PM
flamingspinach
how wide?
17:01 PM
jesus2099
like your picture
17:01 PM
flamingspinach
what picture
17:02 PM
jesus2099
sorry it’s snartal
17:02 PM
why do i keep thinking of you all the time, flamingspinach
17:02 PM
flamingspinach
it must be love
17:02 PM
jesus2099
?
17:02 PM
something like that, maybe
17:05 PM
flamingspinach
snartal: you're aware that the artist credit renaming happens in a different numbered edit, right?
17:05 PM
kepstin-work
ok, then modbot should be adding a comment linking to those other edits :)
17:05 PM
jesus2099
it’s a regression
17:06 PM
there’s a ticket
17:06 PM
flamingspinach
ah, a regression in the modbot
17:06 PM
snartal
flamingspinach: I don't see another edit under my open edits
17:06 PM
jesus2099
there was a modbot text to link batch edits
17:07 PM
kepstin-work
flamingspinach: in the edit in question, there were no additional artist credit renaming edits generated.
17:07 PM
jesus2099
17:07 PM
kepstin-work
flamingspinach: even though the user interface made it appear that the artist credits would be changed.
17:07 PM
flamingspinach
kepstin-work: oh
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17:07 PM
well, I'm glad that it's not the opposite problem :)
17:08 PM
if I unchecked those boxes and it still edited the artist credits that would suck
17:08 PM
snartal
So, if I do a rename artist credits... is there going to be additional modbot edits I will not see under my open edits?
17:09 PM
jesus2099
they have changed to be your own edits now
17:09 PM
recently
17:09 PM
kepstin-work
snartal: all edits generated by you doing things on the website should appear under your account now :)
17:10 PM
snartal
ok, because I did a merge artist... all I get is a line which says "Rename Artist Credits Yes"
17:12 PM
flamingspinach
17:34 PM
bricas
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17:54 PM
snartal
Opinions Please: VIAF "Purpose" (listed as a group, with what is on the artist cover as an alternate) ... or Artist Cover "Bam Crawford's Purpose" .. or ... AllMusic/Discogs "Bam Crawford"?
17:58 PM
hawke_1
most common as on cover
17:58 PM
If they’re always “Bam Crawford’s Purpose” use that
17:59 PM
if they’re usually “Purpose” but have a few releases as “Bam Crawford’s Purpose” then artist name “Purpose” with appropriate Artist Credits on the relevant release.
17:59 PM
“Bam Crawford” seems wrong if he’s an actual person
18:00 PM
(Presumably Bam Crawford would be a member of Bam Crawford’s Purpose though)
18:05 PM
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18:08 PM
*she. ;-)
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18:23 PM
CallerNo6
one of the things I've had knocking around in the back of my mind is a person/eponymous-band relationship.
18:26 PM
snartal
Seems its already there.
18:26 PM
CallerNo6
is it?
18:27 PM
snartal
Snartal's Really Cool Band is a group, of which Snartal, the artist is a member of.
18:28 PM
ianmcorvidae
that doesn't specify that it's an eponymous band specifically
18:28 PM
CallerNo6
ah, but this is more than member. it's more like, "any discography of [person] should include the discography of [eponymous band]". Like with e.g. Miles Davis
18:29 PM
ianmcorvidae
though it is a reasonable point that 'eponymous' could work as an attribute of member-of
18:29 PM
kepstin-work
CallerNo6: wanting a group's releases to show up on an artists page is not the same thing as a group having the name of the artist :)
18:29 PM
CallerNo6
agreed, I can't think of why an attribute wouldn't work
18:29 PM
kepstin-work
don't confuse the two :)
18:30 PM
if we have an attribute indicating that a group takes its name from an artist, that would be separate from the relationship or attribute that indicates that the group's releases should be shown on the artist page.
18:30 PM
ianmcorvidae
one thing that would help here is having a real Person (as reosarevok is fond of asking for) rather than conflating artist and person
18:31 PM
CallerNo6
kepstin-work: understood. ianmcorvidae: agreed
18:31 PM
ianmcorvidae
(as in, there's the person itself and there's the person's role as a solo artist, and those are different things XD)
18:31 PM
not that I'm volunteering to implement any of this crap, of course, but :P
18:32 PM
kepstin-work
man, we should just start a world-wide service that assigns every single person a uuid and stores all of their personal information.
18:32 PM
ianmcorvidae
:P
18:32 PM
CallerNo6
totally. because names are just search hints.
18:32 PM
snartal
Yep, scan and chip them at birth!
18:32 PM
CallerNo6
:s/names are/language is
18:33 PM
kepstin-work
yeah, then you can just use the rfid reader in your phone to find out who you're talking to :)