#musicbrainz

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      • CatQuest
        hey people who are good at extracting images from youtube. can has this image? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJy-i-64s1A
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      • reosarevok
        Why not just take some other of the ones in https://www.google.ee/search?q=Fresh+Blueberry+Pa… ?
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      • CatQuest
        well obviously that's what iwanted but in eeded somewhere to get the initial "google image search" seed from :P
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      • CatQuest
        sometimes you get other results than just searchign name and artist
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      • CatQuest
        godi hate that thing with the topmost right corner that stuff gets expanded fullscreen
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      • CatQuest
        stupid apple
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      • CatQuest
        especially since chrome sometimes showes tabs all that far if you have enough tabs open
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      • CatQuest
        oh dear
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      • CatQuest
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      • JonnyJD
        CatQuest: about the angry inch thing. I have seen advertisements for that on the streets and also thought it was an artist name.
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      • CatQuest
        it's like spinal tab etc
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      • CatQuest
        don't we have fixed that in MusicBrainz with the Ar tothe right composers?
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      • CatQuest
        no we haven't
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      • CatQuest
        hmmmmmmm
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      • CatQuest
        that really should be fixed. can we talk about it here and get a consencus
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      • CatQuest
        I really think this should follow the rightthing
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      • CatQuest
        i mean for classical we even now follow the cover who is credited
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      • JonnyJD
        Well, if there is an artist touring with that name. It is a valid artist name. I am not completely sure though if I remember the advertisement correctly. Possibly this really wasn't advertised as the name of an artist.
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      • CatQuest
        and the argument (or so it went) was that soundtracks were "pseudo-classical-style" so it went to composer (initially it was composer-lyrecists comboes so initially hair was under 3 guys) but it should be moved (with AR's and artist credits where appropriate) to credited right
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      • CatQuest
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      • JonnyJD
        ARs should go to the right composer, either way.
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      • CatQuest
        indeed
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      • CatQuest
        i see this no different than spinal tap or Dethklok
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      • CatQuest
        gorlliaz ffs
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      • CatQuest
        cast should (ugh?) be under the linked thing. this is why moulin rouge is under performers not the composers or Baz luhrman (arranger)
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      • CatQuest
        thing like "angry inch" could possibly be under traks still if it has his name on it but I don't know this
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      • CatQuest
        I want to make these edits ages ago bt i didn't because hornest nests
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      • CatQuest
        I really thought this had been fixed
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      • CatQuest
        i won't make nay edits before a consensus is made
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      • CallerNo6 is looking through the chatlogs, but doesn't understand (yet) the angry inch question
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      • CatQuest
        move them to the thing they're actually credited as (Hedwig and the Angry Inch) "fictional" in-universe artist
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      • CallerNo6
        ah, got it
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      • CallerNo6
        but spinal tap isn't fictional! i saw them perform. unless, hmm, was the not a musical performance? maybe it was a theater performance that had a fictional band in it. damn. maybe i was part of a fictional audience.
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      • CatQuest
        loi
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      • CatQuest
        anyway you agree then?
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      • CatQuest
        :P
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      • CallerNo6
        I'll have to get back to you on that.
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      • CatQuest
        hmmmm
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      • CallerNo6 looks for covers showing how the releases are actually credited
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      • CallerNo6
        I mean, spinal tap releases are credited as if the band exists. Doesn't that make a difference? I wouldn't expect to see tracks on http://musicbrainz.org/release/4e6da9ac-325a-36f6… credited to the in-film fictional composers unless the release is actually presented that way. (in this case, it's hard to tell)
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      • CallerNo6
        I'm sure this has been argued and re-argued many times. I was probably asleep that day.
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      • CatQuest
        it hasn't really een argued about for atleast since before NGS
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      • CatQuest
        here's the "stage" adaption cd cover http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/28225153/Hedw…
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      • CatQuest
        here is the movie adaption cd cover http://theinterrobang.com/wp-content/uploads/2013…
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      • CatQuest
        that one is a bit more dubtious
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      • CallerNo6
        Maybe spinal tap is a real band with fictional members? More like GWAR than like e.g. Future Villain Band (Aerosmith in http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/6766c82a-c03… )?
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      • CatQuest
        I don't care man, dethklok are a cartoon
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      • CallerNo6
        What O
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      • CatQuest
        there is like a korean or something band that's actually made up of bal joint dolls
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      • CatQuest
        blup?
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      • CallerNo6
        oops. What I'm asking is, at what point do we decide to credit (or not credit) fictional artists?
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      • CallerNo6
        Is it based on how the release(s) is/are credited?
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      • CatQuest
        imho if it's a fictional *music* then we credit them, if its just fictional, we do not (example i disagree with crediting muppets, but the actual muppet band and it's members I am fine with)
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      • CatQuest
        it's a distinction that is a pit gradient and maybe arbitrary but we ar *music* brainz
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      • snartal
        Seems its fictional if the real person behind the character is not credited to the releases or tracks.
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      • snartal
        At least that is what I read here... http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Fictitious_Artist
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      • snartal
        Directly credited, I should say
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      • CatQuest
        hmm, but (atleast in the west, and olderwize) it is more common to assign it to the cartoon/thingy whatever that people knew, since "voiceacting" wasn't really a high prestige thing untila few years ago
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      • CatQuest
        where as in the east in asia whole "voiceacting" is a way to fme in its own right
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      • CatQuest
        japanese seiyu's india's singer asha bosle
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      • CatQuest
        etc
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      • CatQuest
        australian cast version cover http://cdn.soundtrack.net/img/album/7827.jpg
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      • CatQuest
        all the different cast ones migt be proper on the composer I don't know
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      • CatQuest
        i feel that not crediting *anything* to HatAI is WRONG
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      • CatQuest
        but I am not sure here either
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        it's simply called "wig"
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      • snartal
        Seems someone put an edit on that one and pulled it.... was that you?
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      • CatQuest
        (aside) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Z6gR_8tuw was fucking a head of his time, i mean ,it sounds like BITUNES heh(/aside)
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      • CatQuest
        eehh
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      • CatQuest
        it'd be easier if you say the editor name? :P
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      • CatQuest
        I am CatCat
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      • CatQuest
        what edit is it?
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      • snartal
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      • CatQuest
        that's weird I was looking at the edithistory but found not this edit
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      • CatQuest
        huh now i do
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      • CatQuest
        weird :P
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      • CatQuest
        but yes the CPT cast should be artist imho
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      • CatQuest
        if classical now follow this so should soundtracks
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      • CatQuest
        credited t oStephen trask/CPT cast as "wig"
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      • CatQuest
        imho
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      • CatQuest
        what say reosarevok ?
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      • CatQuest
        (yes I am being eeevi land dragging you into this)
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      • CatQuest
        s/eeevi/eeevil
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      • reosarevok
        Are you asking me about soundtracks? All I know about soundtracks is I want to run away from them :p
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      • CatQuest
        that's how most people find classical
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      • CatQuest
        me i seem them as similarly guidelined
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      • CatQuest
        they are composed/writtne by some guy and then several others takes turns and performes their versions of thme
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      • CatQuest
        this is especially true for the teathre versions
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      • Mineo doesn't have the impression that soundtracks are anywhere as hard to enter as some classical releases
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      • snartal
        Curious, what did Stephen trask have to do with it
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      • CatQuest
        LOL
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      • CatQuest
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      • CatQuest
        oh oolld drama
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      • CallerNo6
        snartal, he's the songwriter
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      • CallerNo6
        (so if you follow soundtrack style, he's the release artist)
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      • CatQuest
        which is all sorts of wrong in many cases imho
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      • CallerNo6
        (or so the argument goes)
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      • CatQuest
        silly argument
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      • CatQuest
        this just feels wrong too http://musicbrainz.org/release/ac535f7f-cf70-4bd5… it's not a soundtrack but an (ep?) of remixes of the one song
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      • CatQuest
        maxi-single
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      • CatQuest
        alsos wut, "progressive house"?
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      • CatQuest
        oh ye what that's the re-misx
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      • CallerNo6
        CatQuest: about the 2005 edit you linked to above, too funny: "once Advanced Relationships comes along this whole mess will be much easier to take care of"
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      • CatQuest
        haaha
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      • CatQuest
        oh god
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      • CatQuest
        yea noone wanted to deal with it the
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      • CatQuest
        ni don't think it's been touched since
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      • CallerNo6
        we always think it's going to get easier.
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      • CallerNo6 prefers to think about how cool it'll be when we come up with new edge-cases, and things become more difficult.
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      • CatQuest
        pft
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
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      • ianmcorvidae
        things occasionally get easier, but it's with things like the relationship editor or the cover art uploader, not style :P
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      • CatQuest
        :D yea
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      • ehrgeiz
        anyone can give me a hint how to extract images like on amazon zoom pages? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00AED4KD…
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      • ehrgeiz
        nothing google brought up seems to work for me
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      • SultS
        is the high resolution image actually only 1 image? firefox gives me 4 corners of that higher resolution image, like http://z2-ec2.images-amazon.com/R/1/a=B00AED4KD6+…
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      • SultS
        ehrgeiz ↑
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      • SultS
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      • ehrgeiz
        thx @SultS
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      • SultS
        I’m not certain it’s the largest version they have though
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      • SultS
        but using +d=_SCR(0,0,0)_ as part of the link gives the full image of something
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      • CatQuest
        oh yea I've had issues like that too
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      • CatQuest
        I don't know how to fix :(
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      • CatQuest
        if you find I'd sure like to know
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      • SultS
        heureka!
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      • SultS
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      • SultS
        enjoy :)
      • 2013-08-11 22358, 2013

      • SultS
        I cracked the code with some help :P
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      • SultS
        it should work with any amazon image
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      • SultS
        ._SX_SCRMZZZZZZZ_ is the important part
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      • SultS
        _SX is for the dimension
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      • SultS
        _SX400 would return 420x420px image
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      • SultS
        not sure what SCRMZZZZZZZ exactly does, but it should mean max resolution (source?) image
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      • reosarevok
        it screams zzzzzzzzzzzz (guess it's sleepy)