#musicbrainz

Same as the ones for adding composers to works and works to recordings

this one scares me ↗  :)

used it once or twice and i remember closing the tab violently because it gave me impression of launching tons of edits, or something… iirc it was only an impression :D

heh

Well, it can do that, depends on how many things you relate :p

But only does what you ask it to, anyway

it seemed to launch edits as soon as you check some lines, but not sure, don’t remember clearly… i work per release so i haven’t test it many times

i used the other bitmap work userjs instead (the release based one) :)

reosarevok: how do you edit classical then? editing recordings 1 by 1?

Doing it right the first time! :p

Nah, I mean, it's rare that the recordings have the right artists already anyway :p

So I generally fix the stuff while I change recording artists

It's only annoying for multi-composer releases

just add classical releases that are so large nobody checks all of it :D

well that's the thing, i don't want to add anything, was just thinking about i might finally start editing the slovak classical releases (just removing feat. from titles, make sure all relationships are present, but it's impossible to edit recordings separately, because classical has to have different artists for tracks and recordings)

It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's bad

and editing recordings 1 by 1 is not an option

Heh, why not! :p

I mean, I'd do the basic things then

(so, everything except moving performers to recording artist)

btw. there should be composer+all performers on track, but only composer on recording?

just the composer on the tracks

and performers on the recording

without composer?

yeah

But that last bit you can leave because it's annoying :p

You can just leave composers on recordings too

As long as you add the relationships

but if the performers are already on the recording and composer on track, while both have "feat." stuff in title, it's impossible to fix both at the same time, because i can't check "apply track changes on recordings"

damn

... someone fixed the recording artists and not the title?

Ok, that's dumb :p

that was just an example, don't know if something like that is somewhere out there :P

I want to think there's not :p

also, what about RG/release title, composer; performers?

I hope you mean artist :p

(in that case, yes)

oh yeah, artist

I have a technical question. What's a best way to make photo/scan a medium (CD exacly)? Is it safe for a CD to simply scan and is it in a good quality then?

I've scanned CDs with no issues, with good results.

OK then, I'll try it.

Question: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/23457466 .... this to me doesn't look like its gonna change the artist on the track... did I do it wrong?

albino_: yeah, scanning works fine - try to position it on the scanner so that the letters can be read as straight as possible :)

reosarevok, Yeah, right. Thanks for advise.

I wouldn't bother positioning it on the scanner in any particular way; just rotate it in an image editor afterwards ;)

kepstin-laptop: rotating it works if you're going to cut the surrounding white and all that

If not it just looks dumb

I usually end up using a levels tool to get the colours right anyways, so I just push the background to pure white while i'm at it. then filling in the holes after rotation is trivial.

snartal: that's going to change it on the recording only, yes - to change the track you need to edit the release

So, is this a two edit change? or is there an easy one edit way to do it?

http://coverartarchive.org/release/0f4b6901-aeb... is what the medium scans look like on my scanner with the LED lights :/

snartal: it is a two edit change, but you can enter the two edits at the same time by clicking the "also change the recording" checkbox in the Recordings tab

kepstin-laptop: but it looks pretty!

nikki: looks like something you'd like to have around your phone :p

oh yes! :D

hmm. the weather report had a 100% chance of rain for today.

they weren't wrong.

but yes, that scan ^^ was rotated to make it straight :)

ok, why only the title being highlighted, and not the artist... yet I think I got the edit right this time.... http://musicbrainz.org/release/71636e00-e33d-4d...

snartal: the title is because there is a recording edit

The tracklist edit is marked by CD1 being highlighted

Yes, it's confusing

ok... as long as I got the edit right - lol

kepstin-laptop: heh, that's a daring prediction, I'd have gone with 99% and said "hey, it *is* a chance" if it didn't rain :p

I'm gonna have to go back and check my recent stuff to make sure I did those correctly too.

looks fine

(that edit)

Thanks for keeping me in line, reosarevok :)

I put them in some CSS columns for now, but dunno which browsers that will work in.

(that's not the complete list of ARs for that recording yet; it only has vocal and instrumental so far)

having to do this: https://github.com/kepstin/mbjs/blob/master/js/... is kind of annoying :)

(I can't even use the patterns from musicbrainz directly, because I don't know which attributes are vocal types or instruments or whatever...

so I just made a * attribute that gathered up all the things that weren't mentioned anywhere else

... that recording has two ars, "lead vocals" and "lead vocals, background vocals" credited to the same person...

Hi

is there a way to fast-apply edits in a grace period after creating a release?

no

that would be helpful to add relations quickly after entering a release,

well, adding relationships show up immediately anyway

because that is impossible _during_ the creation process

do they? ah, now I see

Yeah

It would be useful anyway to fix errors, but we don't have it :/

Question: Is there an easy way to make a copy of an existing release in MB, to use as a template to add a different version?

More or less

sort of, depending on what you want :P

pffft

you can click "add release" from a release group page and it will fill in the artist and release group

you'll need to fill in the rest of that tab manually

then on the next tab, you can copy an existing release's tracklist

hmmm, no lookup of title like you can with an artist when entering a release?

snartal: on the tracklist tab you can search for any existing disc to add it to the release

ok, finally figured out how to get rid of the credits box

Was hitting the red x to close it

kuno: don't want to add a disc.... was wondering if it searches recordings like it does artists.

snartal: on the recording tab it does

but not for entering track names

(there is no way to fill in track names from recording names)

Wow, I clicked on the recordings tab to look at that, went back to the tracklist.... all my changes are gone

... that shouldn't happen :/

did you go back in the browser or by clicking on the tracklist tab?

I'm pretty sure I clicked the previous button, but not 100%

never click back in the browser in the release editor unless you know what you're doing ;) (it is *sometimes* useful if you get a server error when submitting, but even that's iffy)

Yea, I must of clicked the back button on the browser

you could try going forwards and then clicking on the tracklist tab

if snartal is still here, you can use release cloner from http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/85790

Still here... still working on it.... painfull.... will never do it again.

it will ask if you want the same RG or a new RG with same type… everything will be filled-out (including all mediums and AC etc) you only need to modify what has to be modified

« nikki usually wants the first tab to be filled in » ← it does that too

snartal: it really shouldn't be that hard :/ It's supposed to be easy to just re-use the existing disc and tracklist so that you only need to change whatever's different

Is that not working?

i thought it was not so easy or so complete… i don’t remember exactly why but i had to code that little release copier

Well, done, I think

Hi ! Is it useful to add "remastered" in the disambiguation field for a remeastered release of an album?

here http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/144067fd-d...

Yea, I don't put that in the easy category either.... I know I'm a rookie, so that definately increased the time.

I would say no, but not everyone agrees

jesus2099: well, it's not *complete* in that it doesn't clone all the info

like amazon does http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CARI7U > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000005HCA

But the tracklist itself should be straightforward, all the problems should be on the first tab

Kazaam: yes do it  :)

use ETI style http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ETI

ok thanks

reosarevok: ah i remmeber now why i made the copier… not for the first tab although it’s what it adds most obviously… it’s because it was impossible to search too recent releases or somthing like that… don’t rememebr 100%

jesus2099: huh? ETI style only makes sense if remastered is on the cover prominently, and I'd argue not even then

Oh, that's true :)

Add Disc uses indexed search

Well, when you have to shift all the tracks around.. delete the songs that were removed, add the songs, then check them against the recordings...

Well, yeah, ok, if it's only very loosely based on the other one, then yes :)

snartal: so it’s not that similar  ;)

Kazaam: in any case, you can relate the two releases as "remaster" of each other with a relationship (which makes sense whether we put it in the disambiguation or not)

reosarevok: by ETI i mean that what’s in the comment is between brackets so ETI fits here nicely, doesn’t it ?