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      • flamingspinach
        sure
      • 2013-09-01 24402, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        what do you need this for?
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      • Freso
        Just made a little thing for my group at uni, which happens to be group 1 (of four).
      • 2013-09-01 24456, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        oh
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      • flamingspinach
        did you want a romanization that would sound vaguely accurate if a non-Japanese speaker tried to sound it out based on English pronunciation rules?
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      • Leftmost
        Pfft. Not using Hepburn?
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      • flamingspinach
        hepburn is (nominally) the kind of romanization I just described
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      • flamingspinach
        personally I prefer a romanization scheme that's prioritized towards having a simple mapping between kana and latin digraphs
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      • Leftmost
        Fair enough. I tend to prefer Hepburn, since I'm more interested in something that's readable at a glance. I don't find that Kunrei-shiki or Nihon-shiki are that, for me.
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      • flamingspinach
        well, what do you mean by "readable"
      • 2013-09-01 24438, 2013

      • Leftmost
        I can interpret or pronounce it aloud without converting in my head.
      • 2013-09-01 24448, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        right
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      • flamingspinach
        I think you'll want to eventually get to a point where kana itself is the most readable form of japanese syllables
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      • Leftmost
        Oh, I'm there.
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      • Leftmost
        I took three years of Japanese at university. I just haven't used it in... ten years.
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      • Leftmost
        かながよく読める
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      • flamingspinach
        IMO if you still find hepburn more "readable" than other romanizations, you're thinking about japanese pronunciation in terms of English sounds rather than as points on the 五十音 table
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      • Leftmost
        I'm not sure that's true. I think differently about romanization and kana.
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      • Leftmost
        They're different scripts and use different paths.
      • 2013-09-01 24439, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        fair enough
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      • flamingspinach
        so my primary association with ro-mazi is the fact that I use it to type japanese
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      • flamingspinach
        so maybe it's more closely related to kana in my mind (in that when I type ro-mazi kana appears on my screen)
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      • Leftmost
        Heh, I still use Hepburn, or something close, when typing.
      • 2013-09-01 24440, 2013

      • Leftmost
        こんにちは -> kon'nichiha
      • 2013-09-01 24423, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        part of the reason for that is that it makes for a better rhythm when typing
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      • Leftmost
        Fair enough. I'm certainly not trying to sell you on what I do. :)
      • 2013-09-01 24455, 2013

      • flamingspinach
        aiueo kakikukeko sasisuseso tatituteto naninuneno hahihuheho mamimumemo yayuyo rarirurero wawo n'
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      • flamingspinach
        kyakyukyo syasyusyo tyatyutyo nyanyunyo hyahyuhyo myamyumyo ryaryuryo gyagyugyo zyazyuzyo dyadyudyo byabyubyo pyapyupyo
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      • flamingspinach
        :3
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      • Leftmost
        Kanji are where I really need a new brainsystem.
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      • nikki
        I don't agree that finding hepburn easier to read means you're still thinking about the pronunciation in terms of another language. any romanisation system has to be learnt, no matter how good/bad a fit it is for a particular language, so any you're not familiar with will be harder to read than one you are familiar with.
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      • nikki
        I mean, it's not like english's spelling is particularly well suited to english words, but if you rewrite english to use a more straightforward spelling system, it takes quite a bit of getting used to :P
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      • nikki
        even though you're presumably still thinking of it in terms of english
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      • CallerNo6 stumbled on a band called "ghoti hook"
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      • nikki
        ew
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      • drsaunde
        ocharles: still around?
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      • ocharles
        yea, on it
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      • culinko
        reosarevok: ping
      • 2013-09-01 24421, 2013

      • reosarevok
        culinko, pong
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      • culinko
        i just found a release date for one release you were editing in the past. i don't think the release date was here before, or something like that
      • 2013-09-01 24457, 2013

      • culinko
        there were 2 editions of the release
      • 2013-09-01 24435, 2013

      • culinko
        well
      • 2013-09-01 24455, 2013

      • culinko
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/0a8aa295-13f7-4ca4… is the release, you can see your edit there
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      • culinko
        and there is 6 Feb 1996 from the ASIN
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      • culinko
        so, is it a correct release date?
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      • culinko
        i remember there was some problem between the two releases, but i can't remember what it was
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      • culinko
        so i ran through an irc history and seems like the date wasn't on amazon at the time. is there a way to see changelog for a particular amazon page?
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      • CallerNo6
        culinko, the IA archives amazon pages
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      • CallerNo6
        ... I think
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      • culinko
        well, i tried wayback machine with no luck
      • 2013-09-01 24423, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        No, I was wrong, sorry.
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      • reosarevok
        culinko: I just removed the wrong date, I didn't really try to find the correct one
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      • reosarevok
        So if you have a date that sounds sensible feel free to add it
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      • culinko
        well, there is a date on that ASIN link
      • 2013-09-01 24442, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (sorry, completely forgot about your ping, too sleepy today)
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      • culinko
        do you think there wasn't this date back then
      • 2013-09-01 24458, 2013

      • culinko
        ?
      • 2013-09-01 24407, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I said sounds sensible. Amazon usually has non-sensible dates, so try to confirm elsewhere too :)
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      • reosarevok
        I'm fairly sure whoever added it originally did it wrong and I didn't really check at all for a date
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      • reosarevok
        hawke_: if someone ever invents a time machine in my lifetime, I'm going back and killing Alfred Scholz
      • 2013-09-01 24420, 2013

      • reosarevok is trying to clean up the stuff on the dupe relationships report and I keep seeing horrible things related to that
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      • reosarevok
        5 orchestras on a track!
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      • CallerNo6
        Orchestras 1,2,3,4, and 5 play the works of Manowar?
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      • derwin
        lol
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      • reosarevok is afraid the joke flew over his head
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      • CallerNo6
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      • reosarevok
        lol
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      • reosarevok
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      • culinko
        heh
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      • culinko
        i'm wondering, is it possible to have multiple mb accounts registered on one mail, or is it against the rules?
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      • reosarevok
        Certainly possible
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      • reosarevok
        Dunno if desirable
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      • culinko
        well since you can't add artist subscriptions to folders and set them different options, like not to send it to mail, i was thinking about making another account, subscribing to all slovak artists and using reports with "Show only results that are in my subscribed entities." :P
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      • nikki
        culinko: it's never worked that well for me, since you have to be signed in as one user to load the page but then you'd presumably want to edit using your normal account
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      • nikki
        but yes, you can do that if you want :P
      • 2013-09-01 24435, 2013

      • nikki
        some days I get three subscriptions emails :/
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      • culinko
        well i'll use ff and chrome
      • 2013-09-01 24432, 2013

      • nikki
        I used to use one for getting emails about the things I actually cared about, but in the end I gave up, turned off the option to automatically subscribe me to artists I create, unsubscribed from loads of stuff and then never got round to dealing with the other accounts >_<
      • 2013-09-01 24434, 2013

      • culinko
        i was just thinking about subscribing with my main account, but i don't want to get mails everytime somebody merges a classical recording (which happens pretty much every day) :/
      • 2013-09-01 24403, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
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      • culinko
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      • culinko
        too bad i need to subscribe to them 1 by 1:)
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      • nikki
        it should be possible to subscribe to multiple at a time if you generate the urls yourself
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      • reosarevok
        "Open 752"
      • 2013-09-01 24425, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ...
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      • reosarevok
        Why are there so many dupe relationships :(
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      • culinko
        they are waiting for you to increase your edit count
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      • nikki
        he doesn't need help with that
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      • reosarevok
        I really don't :(
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      • ocharles
        reosarevok: literally dupe?
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      • reosarevok
        Old with / without date ones, and then silly things like "chamber orchestra" vs "orchestra", or "solo piano" vs "piano", or "performer" vs "guest performer", or dated May vs dated May 5
      • 2013-09-01 24456, 2013

      • ocharles
        ah
      • 2013-09-01 24424, 2013

      • reosarevok
        So, no, not really a bug
      • 2013-09-01 24426, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Don't worry
      • 2013-09-01 24428, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Just a pain
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