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      • kuno
        jesus2099: I think it is silly for jasrac to assign three seperate work codes for this, but it seems useful for MB to have entities which map directly to those jasrac works.
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      • CatQuest
        warp why do you turn from kuno to warp and from warp to kuno so much now?
      • 2013-09-16 25915, 2013

      • jesus2099
        kuno: it’s easier for them to directly know who to send money to when one of the tunes is performed —  not completely silly.
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      • jesus2099
        well…
      • 2013-09-16 25923, 2013

      • kuno
        CatQuest: I'm at work. people at work know me as kuno. work has an irc channel on freenode.
      • 2013-09-16 25929, 2013

      • CatQuest
        huh
      • 2013-09-16 25930, 2013

      • CatQuest
        ok
      • 2013-09-16 25932, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ah !
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      • CatQuest
        you were wondering this too?
      • 2013-09-16 25949, 2013

      • CatQuest
        thank you reo :)
      • 2013-09-16 25918, 2013

      • jesus2099
        i was wondering too :)
      • 2013-09-16 25910, 2013

      • jesus2099
        kuno: or else we let only one work with 3 compo credits and we stick the three JASRAC work codes on it… it’s better ? like CyberSkull wanted
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      • CatQuest
        kepstin-work: this is one of my scans http://ia601900.us.archive.org/31/items/mbid-e740… I don't know if it lives up to high expectations :s
      • 2013-09-16 25911, 2013

      • kuno
        jesus2099: I think it is useful to have seperate works in MB if there are seperate works in JASRAC.
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      • CatQuest
        WHAT in the ACTUAL fuck
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      • jesus2099
        kuno: that’s what i thought
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      • CatQuest
        i had 7 gigs open just 10 minutes ago and now I have like 300 mg and "YOU STARTAP DISK IS ALMOST FUL D:"
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      • CatQuest
        FUCK YOU CHROME
      • 2013-09-16 25946, 2013

      • CatQuest
        i exit chrome and loo and behold, I have suddenly 6 gigs again
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      • CatQuest
        what in the actual fuck is this
      • 2013-09-16 25933, 2013

      • CatQuest
        now I have 10 gigs
      • 2013-09-16 25948, 2013

      • CatQuest
        so chrome takes 10 gigs of space on the swapfile
      • 2013-09-16 25950, 2013

      • CatQuest
        seriously
      • 2013-09-16 25953, 2013

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      • CatQuest
        that shit is not cool
      • 2013-09-16 25917, 2013

      • CatQuest
        but since I don't what the fuck know is the olny broser that works at all
      • 2013-09-16 25928, 2013

      • CatQuest
        what am i uspposed to do then??
      • 2013-09-16 25937, 2013

      • CatQuest
        i mean WTF kinda browser do YOU youse???
      • 2013-09-16 25944, 2013

      • CatQuest
        use*
      • 2013-09-16 25923, 2013

      • CatQuest
        what am i supposed to actually DO?
      • 2013-09-16 25957, 2013

      • CatQuest
        jesus. 13 gigs bakc now
      • 2013-09-16 25916, 2013

      • jesus2099
        what ?
      • 2013-09-16 25919, 2013

      • CatQuest is almost crying ffs
      • 2013-09-16 25922, 2013

      • CatQuest
        chrome
      • 2013-09-16 25931, 2013

      • CatQuest
        why does opera have to suck on mac!
      • 2013-09-16 25936, 2013

      • jesus2099
        you have a 10 giga swap file ?
      • 2013-09-16 25938, 2013

      • CatQuest
        I want opera back T_T
      • 2013-09-16 25948, 2013

      • CatQuest
        jesus2099: it has to be. because its chrome
      • 2013-09-16 25900, 2013

      • CatQuest
        whenever i close chrome i get althis space back
      • 2013-09-16 25909, 2013

      • jesus2099
        in windows you can limit the swap file, i limit to 0 giga i guess
      • 2013-09-16 25915, 2013

      • CatQuest
        lol
      • 2013-09-16 25918, 2013

      • jesus2099
        my ram is enough 3 giga
      • 2013-09-16 25941, 2013

      • jesus2099
        actually 4 but windows xp can’t see more than 3
      • 2013-09-16 25946, 2013

      • jesus2099
        hah
      • 2013-09-16 25912, 2013

      • jesus2099
        maybe you can limit the size, CatQuest
      • 2013-09-16 25923, 2013

      • jesus2099
        maybe chrome takes everything possible
      • 2013-09-16 25929, 2013

      • jesus2099
        even if no use
      • 2013-09-16 25939, 2013

      • CatQuest
        I have no idea how to do that
      • 2013-09-16 25941, 2013

      • CatQuest
        but
      • 2013-09-16 25947, 2013

      • CatQuest
        maybe I should try firefox
      • 2013-09-16 25959, 2013

      • CatQuest
        firefox users: how is firefox today
      • 2013-09-16 25901, 2013

      • CatQuest
        ?
      • 2013-09-16 25916, 2013

      • kuno
        CatQuest: I use both firefox and chrome without trouble.
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      • jesus2099
        but opera is better
      • 2013-09-16 25935, 2013

      • jesus2099
         ;)
      • 2013-09-16 25954, 2013

      • CatQuest
        of course it is, but opera 12 on mac is unfinished and broken
      • 2013-09-16 25957, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but no more i have to stick with opera 12.16 because aftewards they still call it opera but it has almost ZERO opera features
      • 2013-09-16 25907, 2013

      • CatQuest
        indeed
      • 2013-09-16 25913, 2013

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      • CatQuest
        kuno: magical, what do you do
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      • CatQuest
        how do you stop it from hogging resorouces
      • 2013-09-16 25949, 2013

      • jesus2099
        kuno: maybe i should send you the links of the associated edits…
      • 2013-09-16 25947, 2013

      • CatQuest
        anyway I have to battle a small storm to go t oschool
      • 2013-09-16 25949, 2013

      • CatQuest
        see you alter
      • 2013-09-16 25952, 2013

      • CatQuest
        later
      • 2013-09-16 25920, 2013

      • jesus2099
        se you later !
      • 2013-09-16 25929, 2013

      • CatQuest
        fuck i cant put alter to later in symbol and text substitution because alter is a word
      • 2013-09-16 25930, 2013

      • CatQuest
        fuck
      • 2013-09-16 25946, 2013

      • CatQuest
        jesus2099: \o_
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      • jesus2099
        (^o^)/
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: Chrome *is* a terrible resource-hogger, doubt there's a way to avoid that
      • 2013-09-16 25937, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I just close it every once in a while to free memory (thankfully you can set it to remember open tabs)
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      • reosarevok
        Speaking of which, seems like it's needing that again :)
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      • kuno
        jesus2099: yes, I'm not going to find them myself :)
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      • jesus2099
        kuno: do you have the POWER VOTE ?
      • 2013-09-16 25922, 2013

      • jesus2099
        batch mass vote ?
      • 2013-09-16 25938, 2013

      • kuno
        nothing beyond the default
      • 2013-09-16 25957, 2013

      • nikki
        auto-editors all get batch voting stuff
      • 2013-09-16 25948, 2013

      • reosarevok
        504 :(
      • 2013-09-16 25937, 2013

      • Jozo
        My daily edit rate drops dramatically 'cos 504 :/
      • 2013-09-16 25946, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ok :)
      • 2013-09-16 25958, 2013

      • jesus2099
        oh sbongtrager told me it was less good than POWER VOTE  ;p
      • 2013-09-16 25934, 2013

      • jesus2099
        automod’s always overwrites your previous votes (in power vote you shift+click to overwrite, safer)  ;)
      • 2013-09-16 25902, 2013

      • jesus2099
        kuno: i’m still making the search url…
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      • jesus2099
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      • jesus2099
        kuno there is another edits that add Chrono Trigger DS edition works to this OST cluster… i felt they shouldn’t be there and voted no atm…
      • 2013-09-16 25904, 2013

      • jesus2099
        what do you think ?
      • 2013-09-16 25941, 2013

      • kuno
        what is different about the DS soundtrack that they need to be seperate works?
      • 2013-09-16 25905, 2013

      • jesus2099
        maybe with my new sub-clusters we can call them ORIGINAL works by MITSUDA, ORIGINAL works by UEMATSU and ORIGINAL works by MATSUEDA and then create that new new DS EDITION works… or somehting if we let it all under the same cluster as it’s still the "same" game
      • 2013-09-16 25917, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ds edition adds some new tunes apparently
      • 2013-09-16 25924, 2013

      • jesus2099
        new composer
      • 2013-09-16 25934, 2013

      • jesus2099
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      • kuno
        so I guess we need a new work for the DS soundtrack, which then consists of all the existing works + the works for new tunes?
      • 2013-09-16 25959, 2013

      • jesus2099
        ah yes maybe, good idea
      • 2013-09-16 25909, 2013

      • jesus2099
        it’s true we can have 2 parents
      • 2013-09-16 25912, 2013

      • kuno
        do you know if the DS soundtrack has any seperate entries in JASRAC?
      • 2013-09-16 25924, 2013

      • jesus2099
        but this make it quite tricky, here it’s ok i think but imagine if the DS edition had removed some works… it would be more difficult to cope with…
      • 2013-09-16 25910, 2013

      • kuno
        well, right now we have for the original: Chrono Trigger Soundtrack -> sub clusters per composer -> works per track
      • 2013-09-16 25934, 2013

      • kuno
        for the DS soundtrack you can definitely re-use the "works per track" even if some of them were removed.
      • 2013-09-16 25946, 2013

      • jesus2099
        i didn’t find those works in JASRAC
      • 2013-09-16 25920, 2013

      • kuno
        the sub clusers aren't useful unless they have identifiers (e.g. in JASRAC)
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      • jesus2099
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      • jesus2099
        i go to lunch, see you later  :)
      • 2013-09-16 25912, 2013

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      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: Server Update 2013-09-16 <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2013/09/16/server-update-2013-09-16/>
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      • reosarevok
        "Don’t check any artist credits by default when editing artist names"
      • 2013-09-16 25945, 2013

      • reosarevok
        YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
      • 2013-09-16 25950, 2013

      • reosarevok
        \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
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      • nikki promptly reopens one of the tickets
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      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-09-16 25905, 2013

      • culinko
        nikki: since MBS-6700 has been fixed, you can view the duplicate relationsip now. and it looks weird. 2 different rels in http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/086a66e0-224… but dupe rel in http://musicbrainz.org/artist/1e187495-32e2-46d7-…
      • 2013-09-16 25913, 2013

      • culinko
        seems like "artists and repertoire" = "support"
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      • CatQuest wonders what ticket nikki reopened
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      • CatQuest
        seems it will rain in berlin..
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      • noobie
        lol CatQuest, welcome to berlin :D
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      • yindesu
        need help countering a destructive no vote :( http://musicbrainz.org/edit/23703627
      • 2013-09-16 25908, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Hmm, seems borderline to me. Isn’t every track on an album typically available for purchase separately? (e.g. Amazon, iTunes both let you buy most tracks separately from the album) Does that qualify as a digital single? Or is this more of a release than that?
      • 2013-09-16 25955, 2013

      • yindesu
        no
      • 2013-09-16 25916, 2013

      • yindesu
        Show me examples where "every track on an album" is typically available for purchase *before the album is released*?
      • 2013-09-16 25935, 2013

      • hawke_1
        …OK, then why is it being added as a release?
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      • yindesu
        it's a digital single
      • 2013-09-16 25949, 2013

      • yindesu
        the album hasn't been released yet
      • 2013-09-16 25917, 2013

      • yindesu
        for what it's worth, the album art is also not the album art of the not-yet-released album.
      • 2013-09-16 25933, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Sounds good to me, then.
      • 2013-09-16 25935, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Voted yes.
      • 2013-09-16 25919, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        I don't even understand what qbly is saying. A pre-single, a single advertising an upcoming album is standard practice.
      • 2013-09-16 25948, 2013

      • yindesu
        it's probably because Japan is not used to digital singles.
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      • hawke_1
        I think he’s saying “they’re just selling a track off the album in advance” which is potentially reasonable
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, the linked URL is fairly clear in showing it is a digital single though :)
      • 2013-09-16 25918, 2013

      • CallerNo6
        But more and more, digital "releases" are coming out in stages.
      • 2013-09-16 25919, 2013

      • reosarevok
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      • hawke_1
        The different cover art seals the deal for me.
      • 2013-09-16 25932, 2013

      • reosarevok
        If http://recochoku.jp/album/30286441/ was called LEVEL3 and had only one track, I could see it as "album page with a preview track" in some way, but it's not, it seems a clear single to me :)
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      • yindesu
        I do wish there was a way to "hide" digital singles from the Singles release groups.
      • 2013-09-16 25902, 2013

      • yindesu
        most artists' official discographies don't include them.
      • 2013-09-16 25918, 2013

      • yindesu
        (speaking about Japan, where CD singles are the only thing that matter.)
      • 2013-09-16 25925, 2013

      • hawke_1
        reosarevok: I wouldn’t think that — compare to how amazon has separate pages for each track vs. the album.