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      • Freso
        Someone's credited with "K2000 Sounddesign"... do I attribute them with programming?
      • 2013-09-27 27016, 2013

      • Freso
        *credit
      • 2013-09-27 27032, 2013

      • Mineo
        kloeri: check that you really started picard and not locutus :)
      • 2013-09-27 27031, 2013

      • drsaunde
        well the K2000 is a synthesizer
      • 2013-09-27 27047, 2013

      • murk_ joined the channel
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      • Freso
        drsaunde: Aha. Thanks. :)
      • 2013-09-27 27057, 2013

      • Freso
        That was a hairy one, but I think it's about done now: https://musicbrainz.org/release/4f3cbf1f-2987-43c…
      • 2013-09-27 27052, 2013

      • kloeri
        Freso: when I wrote that it was using 12GB RAM and quickly climbing.. a minute later I killed it used 15GB RAM (and then I killed it)
      • 2013-09-27 27052, 2013

      • Mineo
        how many files did you throw at it?
      • 2013-09-27 27047, 2013

      • kloeri
        way too many clearly :)
      • 2013-09-27 27030, 2013

      • kloeri
        I think that directory was almost 800GB but it didn't behave much better with 8GB
      • 2013-09-27 27016, 2013

      • Jozo joined the channel
      • 2013-09-27 27018, 2013

      • Jozo
        pöö
      • 2013-09-27 27003, 2013

      • Jozo
        Label guestion (labels is my this week learning subject).... What is correct label or labels for release: http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/b35ce95d-6d65…
      • 2013-09-27 27015, 2013

      • fractalizator
        Freso: could you please fix caps in https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release-group/e3beff… ?
      • 2013-09-27 27055, 2013

      • fractalizator
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      • Lotheric
        jozo: it's HMC
      • 2013-09-27 27053, 2013

      • Lotheric
        imho
      • 2013-09-27 27024, 2013

      • Lotheric
        HMC is a division of Warner Music Finland (which must act as the distributor in this case (guess)
      • 2013-09-27 27027, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: Only HMC and not also WEA?
      • 2013-09-27 27035, 2013

      • Lotheric
        WEA is a company
      • 2013-09-27 27026, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: WEA is also label/imprint as far I know. (most Finnish pop music releases has only WEA logo)
      • 2013-09-27 27035, 2013

      • Lotheric
        like many, since we can put multiple labels now. I don't see the point of putting only the imprint anymore
      • 2013-09-27 27022, 2013

      • Lotheric
        so putting warner music finland wouldn't be terribly wrong
      • 2013-09-27 27002, 2013

      • Jozo
        That example release is only release where I have seen Warner Music Finland logo however
      • 2013-09-27 27015, 2013

      • Freso
        fractalizator: What's the name of track 4 of "Jesus & Josefine"?
      • 2013-09-27 27008, 2013

      • Lotheric
        Jozo: when in doubts, put both
      • 2013-09-27 27006, 2013

      • Freso
        fractalizator: Done.
      • 2013-09-27 27037, 2013

      • Jozo
        http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/02a5cbc2-cf7f… This release has Warner Music Finland logo on back and media has WEA
      • 2013-09-27 27009, 2013

      • Jozo
      • 2013-09-27 27024, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: Putting both is what I would do, but someone may complain...
      • 2013-09-27 27057, 2013

      • Lotheric
        Jozo: it's easier to fix if both are there later on
      • 2013-09-27 27005, 2013

      • Lotheric
        and there's a voting process
      • 2013-09-27 27045, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: (adding release label (and removing it) is autoedits
      • 2013-09-27 27014, 2013

      • Lotheric
        right... nevermind that then :)
      • 2013-09-27 27021, 2013

      • nikki
        don't submit them as auto-edits then
      • 2013-09-27 27012, 2013

      • Jozo
        nikki: I just want found right way to do thing and then I can continue make edits as autoedits.
      • 2013-09-27 27030, 2013

      • nikki
        you say that like there's a "right way"
      • 2013-09-27 27041, 2013

      • nikki
        also, oops
      • 2013-09-27 27051, 2013

      • nikki has left the channel
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      • Lotheric
        if it were me, your first example, I'd use Warner Music finland + Warner Music Live
      • 2013-09-27 27017, 2013

      • Lotheric
        and HMC + Warner Music Finland for the second example
      • 2013-09-27 27027, 2013

      • Jozo
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      • Lotheric
      • 2013-09-27 27041, 2013

      • Lotheric
        there's your issue
      • 2013-09-27 27051, 2013

      • Jozo
        http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2680998 one example (finnish pop/rock) when there is only WEA logo
      • 2013-09-27 27006, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: I know Warner Music Finland and HMC relation, but I do not really know where WEA is in hierarchy.
      • 2013-09-27 27021, 2013

      • Lotheric
        WEA is up top
      • 2013-09-27 27016, 2013

      • Lotheric
        By late 1972, US anti-trust laws had changed and the company was renamed WEA Corp. (from the first letter of each of the three main record companies; Warner Bros, Elektra, and Atlantic).
      • 2013-09-27 27025, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: You refer WEA International Inc. (which is umbrella of all Warner Music Group things outside of US... And just copyright holder and distributor)
      • 2013-09-27 27033, 2013

      • Lotheric
        Still is for Warner, Elektra Atlantic
      • 2013-09-27 27050, 2013

      • Lotheric
        it must be above just wrner wouldn't it ?
      • 2013-09-27 27012, 2013

      • Jozo
        That about Warner... next Universal
      • 2013-09-27 27043, 2013

      • warp
        reosarevok: finally fixed that metalicos thing.
      • 2013-09-27 27056, 2013

      • Jozo
        Universal (DO NOT USE) comments please ... http://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/23854487
      • 2013-09-27 27025, 2013

      • Jozo
        And what nikki recommend, do not make edits as auto-edits... But that is not solve anything. As far I can know every Finnish editor has about same know-how about labels as I have (so very poor)...
      • 2013-09-27 27028, 2013

      • reosarevok
        warp: Thanks!
      • 2013-09-27 27025, 2013

      • Jozo
        WEA has 2 subscibers (now 3)...
      • 2013-09-27 27005, 2013

      • Jozo
        and I'm pretty sure that Ataki is only editor who reviews about all my edits
      • 2013-09-27 27018, 2013

      • Jozo
        (non autoedits)
      • 2013-09-27 27056, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Are the forums broken?
      • 2013-09-27 27010, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: I've read that thread about three times. (and now it has some edits that I've commented)
      • 2013-09-27 27011, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Ah, not completely
      • 2013-09-27 27014, 2013

      • hawke_1
        just doesn’t like my post.
      • 2013-09-27 27024, 2013

      • hawke_1
        “Database reported: ERROR: value too long for type character varying(20) .Failed query: INSERT INTO search_words (word) VALUES('release→track→track')The error occurred on line 151 in /home/forums/htdocs/include/search_idx.php”
      • 2013-09-27 27025, 2013

      • hawke_1
        1. why would it have a problem inserting a 19-character string into a 20-character field…
      • 2013-09-27 27001, 2013

      • Leftmost
        UTF-8.
      • 2013-09-27 27013, 2013

      • hawke_1
        2. why is it even trying to insert what may be a longer string due to UTF-8 into a 20-character field?
      • 2013-09-27 27022, 2013

      • hawke_1
        Does that mean you can’t use any word longer than 20 characters?
      • 2013-09-27 27025, 2013

      • hawke_1
        if so, that’s retarded.
      • 2013-09-27 27044, 2013

      • warp
        stuff written in PHP generally is.
      • 2013-09-27 27003, 2013

      • hawke_1
        heh
      • 2013-09-27 27028, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: I'm happy stay editing Finnish only things, but I know that I do something wrong.. :)
      • 2013-09-27 27028, 2013

      • hawke_1 inserts some spaces
      • 2013-09-27 27037, 2013

      • Lotheric doesn't have all the answers
      • 2013-09-27 27004, 2013

      • Lotheric
        I wish it would be easier but major labels are a pain. I usually edit indie stuff so I rarely have to deal with those :/
      • 2013-09-27 27020, 2013

      • Lotheric
        I guess the style list could come up with some updated guideline for this
      • 2013-09-27 27033, 2013

      • Freso
        ...
      • 2013-09-27 27033, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: Icona Pop releases is may test case how well I can handle Digital Releases and WorldWide... not so well ... http://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/c5f259d0-abd8-…
      • 2013-09-27 27058, 2013

      • Jozo
        s/may/my/
      • 2013-09-27 27009, 2013

      • Freso
        "Universal Music Group" says "file no releases here; please use the correct imprint/sub-label" - but the imprint *is* "Universal Music Group"...
      • 2013-09-27 27031, 2013

      • Jozo
      • 2013-09-27 27041, 2013

      • Freso
        Jozo? That's "Universal" - the imprint says "Universal Music Group".
      • 2013-09-27 27015, 2013

      • Jozo
      • 2013-09-27 27023, 2013

      • Jozo
        Freso: Discogs uses "Universal Music Group" when there is that logo, and "Universal" when there is that logo...
      • 2013-09-27 27010, 2013

      • Jozo
        Freso: I just want know what is our way to do things...
      • 2013-09-27 27012, 2013

      • Jozo
        I do not know anything about Universal's labels neither it's corporate hierarcies.
      • 2013-09-27 27059, 2013

      • Jozo
        I just can say that about all releases on Universal Music Finland is wrong place.. (most of them should co to polydor or some other... but I do not know what do all digital releases what I've added)
      • 2013-09-27 27027, 2013

      • fractalizator
        Freso: thanks!
      • 2013-09-27 27036, 2013

      • Jozo
        Lotheric: And if I add about 100 digital releases on some day... It would be desirable that I select correct label at least of half :)
      • 2013-09-27 27001, 2013

      • Jozo
        And what I have learned correct label is not said anywhere on stores... (excluding meteli.net, which is good for finnish release labels)
      • 2013-09-27 27048, 2013

      • Jozo
        itunes, amazon, (7digital has some correct labels), download.mtv3.fi (local Finnish store) has only copyright info and sometimes distributor
      • 2013-09-27 27017, 2013

      • Jozo
        so you have make decicion when copyright holder is actual label or is some of distributor acting as label role.... (best solution would be just leave label blank.... but I do not want to)
      • 2013-09-27 27028, 2013

      • Jozo
        Either I add lot of releases with labels sometimes wrong or I do not add any Digital releases at all...
      • 2013-09-27 27055, 2013

      • Jozo
        Say me which one you want :)
      • 2013-09-27 27037, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I do the first one... if there's no decent way of knowing the label, there isn't
      • 2013-09-27 27053, 2013

      • Jozo
        I have been lazy on this week. Only 91 release add event after 2013-09-20
      • 2013-09-27 27043, 2013

      • Jozo
        on this month 1,297
      • 2013-09-27 27023, 2013

      • Jozo
      • 2013-09-27 27043, 2013

      • Jozo
        so go and verify, most of them are Digital Releases. :)
      • 2013-09-27 27037, 2013

      • Jozo
        over 48 releases per day... (huh)
      • 2013-09-27 27001, 2013

      • Freso
        Woohoo! Updated Twitter description for the first time in years! Go me!
      • 2013-09-27 27003, 2013

      • Freso
        :p
      • 2013-09-27 27019, 2013

      • Lotheric
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      • Lotheric
        #goodforyou!
      • 2013-09-27 27037, 2013

      • Lotheric
        ;)
      • 2013-09-27 27038, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Is that upcoming video-thing also do some promotioning to standalone video records linked to youtube? (Or is it some next thing?)
      • 2013-09-27 27018, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Hmm? It will mark videos as videos. That's about it. Some will be standalone, some will also be on a release
      • 2013-09-27 27023, 2013

      • Freso
        Lotheric: Aw. I didn't even add in any hashtags. I knew I forgot something. :(
      • 2013-09-27 27029, 2013

      • reosarevok
        There's an option to see videos only on the recordings tab, too
      • 2013-09-27 27043, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Nothing specifically about youtube/streaming at the moment though
      • 2013-09-27 27049, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: That option sounds good start :)
      • 2013-09-27 27043, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Next thing would be promote new "Video" tab and show videos linked to youtube (or some other source)
      • 2013-09-27 27002, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: I thought about that, yes. Unsure if everyone's OK with it, but I would like it
      • 2013-09-27 27017, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: http://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/23898447 I felt somewhat guilty when voting no...
      • 2013-09-27 27010, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: But thanks that Video thing :)
      • 2013-09-27 27018, 2013

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2013-09-27 27037, 2013

      • Lotheric can't wait to see the MusicBrainz mp3 player ;)
      • 2013-09-27 27046, 2013

      • reosarevok
        What you mean mp3!
      • 2013-09-27 27048, 2013

      • reosarevok
        FLAC player!
      • 2013-09-27 27050, 2013

      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2013-09-27 27006, 2013

      • Lotheric
        but my collection is mp3 :P hopefully it'll be able to stream local files :)
      • 2013-09-27 27015, 2013

      • Freso
        Lotheric: Convert them to FLAC files.
      • 2013-09-27 27020, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Ugh :p
      • 2013-09-27 27023, 2013

      • hawke_1
        *facepalm
      • 2013-09-27 27033, 2013

      • Lotheric
        you just didn't say that
      • 2013-09-27 27035, 2013

      • Lotheric
        :)
      • 2013-09-27 27039, 2013

      • Freso
        ;)
      • 2013-09-27 27040, 2013

      • Leftmost
        Reacquire them in FLAC!
      • 2013-09-27 27052, 2013

      • Lotheric
        I don't see the point
      • 2013-09-27 27059, 2013

      • Freso
        Lotheric: #ISureDid
      • 2013-09-27 27000, 2013

      • Lotheric
        LAME mp3 V0 is transparent to my ears
      • 2013-09-27 27004, 2013

      • Lotheric
        takes less space
      • 2013-09-27 27006, 2013

      • Leftmost
        To use them with the MusicBrainz FLAC player, of course.
      • 2013-09-27 27047, 2013

      • simukis_
        The player should ship with flac headphones too!
      • 2013-09-27 27049, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: Is there some convertion thing for video recordings?
      • 2013-09-27 27012, 2013

      • reosarevok
        simukis_: don't say the word headphones D:
      • 2013-09-27 27019, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: I have added about 100 standalone recordings with youtube video relation...
      • 2013-09-27 27046, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: I just wonder do I have do something to them... (Or make bot to do someting)
      • 2013-09-27 27053, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: unsure yet. We probably should auto-convert standalone recordings linked to youtube, especially if the disambiguation says video
      • 2013-09-27 27056, 2013

      • simukis_
        reosarevok: unlike you I can't afford to listen to music on my 5.1 on the midnight at 100% volume.
      • 2013-09-27 27003, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Possibly a bot?
      • 2013-09-27 27022, 2013

      • reosarevok
        simukis_: oh, nothing against the *thing*
      • 2013-09-27 27024, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Just the word
      • 2013-09-27 27028, 2013

      • reosarevok
      • 2013-09-27 27039, 2013

      • simukis_
        hmm… http://thesaurus.com/browse/headphones being useless 😞
      • 2013-09-27 27040, 2013

      • Jozo
        reosarevok: My bot is 0% written.. So :/
      • 2013-09-27 27041, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Ideally, the IA would have some kind of service like "upload your FLACs and we'll archive them and give you access to them later" that lets you keep access to FLAC while storing V0...
      • 2013-09-27 27028, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Jozo: yeah, it would need to be newly written. We'll see
      • 2013-09-27 27055, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I mean, I'm willing to edit my own adds by hand (since most are live anyway and I'll need to add recording locations to them :) )