#musicbrainz

Am I the only user that doesn't want to use any type of keyring/wallet/whatever?

I use ssh keys, but only where I have means to change the key if I lose it somehow

broken link on "link to.. ASIN"

when you click "more documentation"

already fixed in beta

man the big edit numbers

must be in ARs and stuff

hm?

I add so many releases and am not even to 3k

oh, you mean having a large number of edits

yeah

and yes

I mean, I'm a DBA, I understand that there are many more relationships between things than things.

but it's still sad :/

adding a release is a lot of work for relatively few edits, adding the same conductor and orchestra to every track of a classical release is a whole bunch of edits in a minute

(well, "lot of work" depends of course, with a decent importer you can fill out a lot of stuff, but it still can't match the numbers you get from adding relationships)

if we had something like http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-1412 it'd probably help, since then we could just count groups

(not that having nicer stats is a particularly good reason to implement that XD)

Got an album here that has 2 bonus tracks that are only on the CD if you bought it from Target. Should I label the tracks with (Target Exclusive)? Is there a common style guide for that?

xandora: that's what I;d do

erm, actually, a new release

with a disambig comment

is it will be a different tracklist and disc id

Yea, I created a new release, added the extra tracks and added the disambig.

woo :)

What's the best way to automatically update my musicbrainz-server files (not database, I have slave.sh running hourly) from git?

I assume I should just make a cronjob to do a 'git pull' but I want to make sure I won't break anything

Is there a way to preview what your edits would look like before you commit them?

other than in the release editor, no

So for things like release group merges, you just have to either know how it's going to turn out or find out after it happens?

yes :(

…exciting!

for merging we really need something which gives us more control over what happens, but there's also a zillion other things we need >_<

https://musicbrainz.org/edit/24482859 - made this edit earlier, just trying to see how it was going to turn out.

you should get a release group with both releases in it credited to the artist with "as" lowercased (since it prefers the data on the target release group)

Ahh, I didn't even see the 'As' or 'as'. No wonder they didn't end up in the same group. DERP.

they'll only end up in the same group if you actually tell it to use the same group

Yea, I was wondering why it didn't tell me there was a duplicate release. Should've noticed something was up.

What's the best way to automatically update my musicbrainz-server files (not database, I have slave.sh running hourly) from git? I assume I should just make a cronjob to do a 'git pull' but I want to make sure I won't break anything.

anything persistent won't change until you restart

making it automatically update is likely to break something at some point

what are you trying to achieve by updating the code automatically anyway?

nikki - like what?

perl deps change and need reinstallation, the server needs restarting, dbdefs needs manual updating...

catalyst wil be fine, it's persistent. jsut restart at the end.

it always restarts when the files change for me, so I imagine the setup other people are using will do the same

(since I didn't go out of my way to make it do that)

oh, plackup -r

yeah

that's not really a production switch

well, if you're autoupdating, it's obviously not a production setup ;)

good call :)

hey y'all. i

err

i'm fishing for votes for this simple country change: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/24474484 :)

CatCat: thanks!

bricas, what's the change, Cambodia to Canada?

us canadians are always annoyed that just typing 'ca' doesn't select canada - but we've learned to live with it :)

is that because mbz isn't using the ISO codes?

we do have the iso codes

nikki: ready for another round of cities?

I'm kinda busy, but sure, you can give us the links :P

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q911875 ; https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q845015 ; https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q743535

thanks and obviously no rush on those, but the guidelines now say to bug a AreaEditor :-)

they do?

meh, all three are the same problem

most of the ones I have left are all probably the same problem

how many do you have left?

30-40

ah

daveh: yea. I noticed the original edit put it in wrong, so i wanted to correct it.

i promised reo no more than 3 at ones

*once

hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bhKEcFv0s 

What's the best way to update my musicbrainz-server files (not database, I have slave.sh on cron) from GitHub? Do I just make a cron to run 'git pull'?

you should have been here earlier today :)

Draven__: #musicbrainz-devel

Draven__: the best way is to follow the blog, read the release notes for each new version, then manually check out the appropriate tag and follow any required upgrade instructions :)

Might be a better place

I was. Got d/c'd.

Ok, I guess no need :)

Alright. I do follow the blog, was hoping somebody knew an automated way. No problems. Thank you.

http://pastebin.com/AHNmaNJP - What release countries we should use? (WordWide or should we list all countries?)

Heh

Technically, all countries. Although that looks terrible, so dunno. I'd just put one and say "fuck it" but if you feel like adding all of them that should be fine too I guess?

I usually use just one or two... but many other uses 'WorldWide'

if a live version of a track is listed under a different name because it has a different arrangement, the recording is still just a "live" version of the work?

jesus2099: mb. inline stuff seems to have stopped working for me on beta

do people maintain amazon artist central links?

what's amazon artist central?

artist-maintained collection

some people enter them, although not many. "maintain" would imply we actually check they haven't stopped working, which we generally don't

link checking is good hygeine :)

speaking of which, there's probably another mountain of wikipedia pages for me to remove by now

a link checker is 10 lines of perl

add a "broken" column to the table

and bob's your unclue

we'll look forward to your patch then

heh, wish it was that easy