#musicbrainz

nikki: did you know i had a BOT!!! yay come on, the future is mine!

java isn't the same as javascript by the way

i really must try to understand how to erase my e-mail address thanks to Freso two links he gave me for mb's guthub....

nikki: of course i know enough to know this haha:)

just checking :P

héhé

if there wasin't this problem of logging in with Opéra i would make my bot in plain javascript

do we have stats on social link ARs?

what sort of stats?

anyway, yes, we have stats on https://beta.musicbrainz.org/statistics/relatio...

if that's not good enough, you need to be more specific :P

hmm, interesting that "online streaming video" is the most popular url relation for a recording

that's not specifically video

s/video//

so it can be audio too, the bits in {} are attributes

ahh

I guess I'm not too surprised, most of the download relationships are on releases

even then, it's only 7% of release URLs

ahh, amazon isn;t included in that

there are lots more things we can link to releases :)

yeah

is there an actual affiliate syetem with amazon?

we add our affiliate tag to the urls, so we get a bit of money when people buy things

ahh, ok, I;d not noticed that before

:)

we've had two cheques from amazon.de, so it seems to be working XD

two cheques = nikki used amazon.de two times?:P

no

they send them once you've got more than so much in affiliate money

ah

so two cheques = nikki spent far too much on amazon.de

:)

well, part of it is from me ;-)

and partly from simon too XD

but still, tooo much from e

me, even

no wonder CAA is down, fire at the IA building...

yes, exactly :(

oh yikes

holy christ

hopefully not bad???

citation?

:(

in the scanning building

but jesus

that's not where most of the data is, phew.

seems the people and data are fine, yes.

http://umibox.kazlauskas.me/share/Screenshot%20... wat?

what are you trying to link it to?

heh, cropping the relevant bits out of the screenshot :/

simukis_: that is restricted by entity

Hmm

simukis_: it's restricted to .net :D

Please add a ticket if .com is also valid

ah, presumably we should rewrite one to the other then.

Probably

That might be a better ticket :p

yeah

when did mb migrate to trac?

We used trac before jira

You want tickets. not bugs.

yeah.

(if you want to know still, I sadly don't know the answer)

at the end of 2005

and we first started migrating to jira at the end of 2009

nikki, MB historian.

You should put that on your card.

jesus2099: Any chance of a fix for mb. INLINE STUFF on beta?

Tykling: Most censurfridns traffic goes to your ns1, right? I'm adding your DNS to my pDNSd conf, and I'm considering flipping them around. Not that it would likely matter much, but...

Tykling: Wait, how do I verify that I'm using your DNS servers? :p

...

Okay, I got through the DNS block to Grooveshark... to find that Grooveshark has themselves blocked access from Denmark. :(

not just .dk presumably

oh it does work here.

luks: What’s up with this acoustid? https://acoustid.org/track/53c86800-587b-4ee2-a... — no fingerprints at all?

Freso: tunnel through a dutch IP! :)

warp: You have one I can use? :p

only my home connection.

(which would be a bit slow)

My connection is pretty bad to begin with. Tunnelling it through a(nother) slow connection would likely not be a boon for the network throughput. :p

Anyone want to talk about what a "cover" recording is?

No.

jesus2099 believes that the composer of a pop song for a different singer can't "cover" that other singer's song

even if the record label says it's a cover

on a different note, what do I need to do to get marketshare-important URLs auto-recognized?

it's been a long time since I filed tickets and I've seen a lot of later URLs go through but not any of mine

yindesu: Ticket?

both are more important than iTunes in Japan

Right. It just needs someone to write the code. There's no whitelist for "purchase for download" URLs.

The reason "other db" URLs usually get acted on pretty fast, is that they need code to actually be usable on the site.

(Ie., they need to be whitelisted in the JavaScript, or they will get rejected when someone tries to add such an URL.)

I see

If you're not up for messing with the JavaScript, I can probably do it after Friday.

(E.g., this weekend or next week - before next code freeze, so it should get into the server release in two weeks time.)

If so, just assign me to the ticket.

And ping me about it on Saturday.

nikki: I only add download links to digital media releases, basically.

yindesu: I don't think you'll ever get agreement on what a "cover" is.

And so you should. :p

CallerNo6: What if the record label says it's a cover?

the artist of the "cover" differs from the artist of the origianl

(there are only 26 for recochoku and 37 for mora)

shouldn't that be enough?

nikki: I assume all of them were added by me?

I don't have any way to check that

most of our Japanese editors aren't from Japan so there's probably a good reason people don't bother with Mora or Recochoku

(other than opening the edit history for each one one by one that is)

yindesu, I don't think you'll find "cover" used consistently in the real world either :-)

iTunes is fairly easy to create accounts for (try to download a free app)

if it's not enough for the artist to be different, and not enough that the record label says it's a cover...

..then what is a Cover recording?

"we don't know" is the simplest answer

how many answers do you want?

And given those 2 conditions, is that really grounds for voting down edits?

yindesu: Most "(hard)core" MusicBrainz editors are not really fond of the "cover" attribute, since it's so hard (ie., pretty much impossible, as far as we know) to define when something is and isn't a cover.

yindesu: Hence why my answer to your question about whether we wanted to talk about what a "cover" recording is, was "no".

I'm trying to get an understanding of how the attribute should be used

perhaps I should more explicitly ask, why would you vote down an edit to add a Cover attribute?