I very much doubt the CDs are exactly the same in DE and US, even if they share a barcode
2013-12-01 33523, 2013
reosarevok
For the digital ones, no idea
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
reosarevok
Multiple release events for a release are supposed to be used if the same thing is released in multiple countries - same physical stuff, same images, same legal text, same all
2013-12-01 33517, 2013
reosarevok
For digital that's of course less straightforward :)
2013-12-01 33541, 2013
bencomp1
reosarevok: thanks, already here :)
2013-12-01 33502, 2013
_flow_
If two releases should be considered different if they have different barcodes and/or cat no. then I wonder why release events let me enter different barcodes/cat. no. per event
You can enter multiple labels for a release, because reasonably often a release is put out by multiple labels collaborating
2013-12-01 33515, 2013
reosarevok
Heh, I bet that's from before we could have multiple date/country pairs
2013-12-01 33525, 2013
reosarevok is still not sure that was a good idea :/
2013-12-01 33518, 2013
reosarevok
Yep, heh
2013-12-01 33551, 2013
bencomp1
perhaps better ask here than on Twitter: can I use a VM (with replication) with Picard for tagging? I tried and was asked for username and password
2013-12-01 33502, 2013
Freso
bencomp1: You can.
2013-12-01 33548, 2013
reosarevok
heh
2013-12-01 33506, 2013
reosarevok wonders if Freso has a solution for the user/pass thing :p
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bencomp1 wonders too
2013-12-01 33532, 2013
bencomp1
Freso: thanks - should I be asked for user and pass?
2013-12-01 33520, 2013
Freso
bencomp1: Just make some in the VM?
2013-12-01 33540, 2013
Freso
I mean, Picard can store the user/pass combo.
2013-12-01 33510, 2013
Freso
The user table doesn't get replicated, does it?
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nikki
no
2013-12-01 33527, 2013
bencomp1
Freso: as a mirror it doesn´t allow to create accounts
2013-12-01 33540, 2013
nikki
you shouldn't even need an account
2013-12-01 33500, 2013
Freso
bencomp1: Wait, yeah, what are you doing that makes it ask for user/pass?
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
bencomp1
nothing special, I think
2013-12-01 33501, 2013
bencomp1
maybe I was being stupid...
2013-12-01 33504, 2013
bencomp1
ok, nevermind :) it was either using the wrong port, or first trying my .org account details (then not getting in, removing them from the popup and clicking ok)
2013-12-01 33516, 2013
reosarevok
:)
2013-12-01 33534, 2013
reosarevok
As long as it works now
2013-12-01 33555, 2013
reosarevok
I mean, I guess all in all it will have some restrictions (you can't acess your own tags only for example) but
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
bencomp1
I thought I´d save some bandwidth by doing local lookups of already tagged files (not sure I did as replication must cost something)
2013-12-01 33550, 2013
bencomp1
but my 1GB VM is much slower than the live server
2013-12-01 33519, 2013
Freso
bencomp1: I wouldn't do it for bandwidth purposes.
2013-12-01 33558, 2013
Freso
However, if you have large amounts of data (ie., a lot of files), it might be faster to do local lookups rather than deal with the 1 second delay imposed on musicbrainz.org requests.
2013-12-01 33523, 2013
Freso
"A lot" of beets/headphones users have a local server running for this purpose.
2013-12-01 33557, 2013
Freso
Of course, if you don't have the juice to run a local mb-server, then it might not be such a good idea anyway. :)
2013-12-01 33503, 2013
bencomp1
ah
2013-12-01 33508, 2013
derwin
bencomp1: are you throttling the lookups to your server?
2013-12-01 33529, 2013
derwin
bencomp1: beets, for example, when used with a VM server, needs to be unthrottled to go faster than the mb.org service
2013-12-01 33529, 2013
bencomp1
I haven´t changed settings in Picard
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
bencomp1
but as it happens, I set the server to localhost:5000, emptied user and pass and guess what...
2013-12-01 33527, 2013
reosarevok
It wants a password again?
2013-12-01 33544, 2013
bencomp1
yup
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
bencomp1
¨the server localhost requires a username and password¨
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
reosarevok
Is MB sluggish as hell for everyone now or is my lappy just complaining?
2013-12-01 33538, 2013
Mineo
it was quite slow for me an hour ago but has since gone back to normal
2013-12-01 33545, 2013
Mineo
except for jira :)
2013-12-01 33537, 2013
Mineo
heh, I never noticed ocremix.org artist pages link to mb
2013-12-01 33507, 2013
reosarevok
ocremix asking us to link back to them is what made me ask for the otherdbs rel, heh
2013-12-01 33513, 2013
reosarevok
(or well, to allow linking back)
2013-12-01 33503, 2013
Mineo guesses that was before his time
2013-12-01 33507, 2013
reosarevok
It was post-NGS
2013-12-01 33514, 2013
reosarevok
So, doubt it
2013-12-01 33539, 2013
reosarevok
Although who knows, I always think you're an autoeditor, maybe I also think you've been around longer than you have :p
2013-12-01 33508, 2013
Mineo
nah, I created my account in 2010, so classic.mb is something I used to use :)
2013-12-01 33546, 2013
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Freso
The best way to upload an .rtf to CAA is convert to PDF and then convert to an image, or is there a better path?
2013-12-01 33551, 2013
reosarevok
print screen :D
2013-12-01 33515, 2013
Freso
Okay.
2013-12-01 33539, 2013
reosarevok
(no, really, I have no idea - I mean, *should* an .rtf be uploaded to CAA at all?)
2013-12-01 33519, 2013
Freso
It's the booklet, so "cover art"
2013-12-01 33545, 2013
Mineo wonders if the cheese macaroni recipe that was part of an album download at bandcamp is considered a booklet as well :P
2013-12-01 33527, 2013
CallerNo6 wonders if it's an original recipe or a cover
2013-12-01 33514, 2013
reosarevok
:D :D :D
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tim_abell
the music brainz website is making me angry. grrrrrrr :-[
2013-12-01 33542, 2013
tim_abell
came here to vent
2013-12-01 33527, 2013
tim_abell
requires information that makes no sense for the compilation I'm adding
2013-12-01 33533, 2013
tim_abell
I just have a frickin track listing
2013-12-01 33546, 2013
tim_abell
yet album artist is required
2013-12-01 33558, 2013
tim_abell
not to mention having to retype everything I just typed into sound juicer
2013-12-01 33519, 2013
tim_abell
grrrr
2013-12-01 33513, 2013
reosarevok
Not our fault soundjuicer doesn't allow to send that info to the release editor (we have that option, they don't use it)
"you may add a new release to MusicBrainz" is what I wanted, but two search boxes made no sense to me
2013-12-01 33524, 2013
reosarevok
Well, the release can be there, just without a discID
2013-12-01 33525, 2013
tim_abell
if you care, which you are entitled not to I'm just venting as I said
2013-12-01 33536, 2013
CallerNo6
tim_abell: release_editor > tracklist > track_parser might save you some typing :-)
2013-12-01 33505, 2013
reosarevok
In which case you don't want to add a new release, just to attach the ID to the existing one
2013-12-01 33506, 2013
tim_abell
I think the problem is "release" is a meaningless term to me, I'm holding a "CD" but I think I understand the term retrospectively
2013-12-01 33535, 2013
tim_abell
I did eventually search for the album title in the "release" box
2013-12-01 33552, 2013
tim_abell
which yielded lots of similarly named ones but not the one I'm holding
2013-12-01 33539, 2013
tim_abell
As I definitely don't own anything by Susan Boyle
2013-12-01 33539, 2013
Freso
tim_abell: There is work going on for a unified search, so people won't have to guess what the different entity types entail.
2013-12-01 33553, 2013
tim_abell
I still didn't really understand why I had to search at all
2013-12-01 33558, 2013
tim_abell
given the text
2013-12-01 33510, 2013
tim_abell
once I'd done a search the add a release button looks more like what I expected
2013-12-01 33545, 2013
tim_abell
but then it expected artist which I couldn't get past as that as I mentioned is nonsensical for a compilation
2013-12-01 33546, 2013
Freso
nikki: Ping?
2013-12-01 33508, 2013
Freso
Is there a ticket for making "Release" in http://is.gd/7jsEz6 say "Release name" or some such?
2013-12-01 33530, 2013
Freso
Or perhaps just add some more text around the two search fields.
2013-12-01 33538, 2013
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reosarevok
tim_abell: most places and players I've seen expect Various Artists as compilation artist (which yeah, it's pretty much a placeholder because the field needs something, just that I think it's a quite established one)
