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if so, then the answer is because we need to split it up because different parts of the db are under different licenses, and we also split it up so that people can pick which bits to import (hardly anyone needs the edit history, for example)

so it would still involve a variety of files

and also we've just always done it that way, so switching would require extra work from our already stretched devs to fix something that isn't broken for us :)

the dumps are actually just tab-separated files that you could use with "copy" if you wanted. before luks wrote mbslave I once imported the db by running CreateTables.sql and just using "copy" to import each table from the file, because I didn't have enough free space to do it with the official import script

heh

pffft

Now that's annoying :p

Man, this Ki/oon debate makes me think that we really really need label artwork. :-D

feel free to implement it :P

:-p

hawke1: how would that make a difference in the Ki/oon edit? You mean, determining whether "Ki/oon" is text vs an imprint?

(on that particular release, I mean)

CallerNo6: In that we could have a set of images associated with the label and compare them with the release's artwork

what's there to debate about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ki/oon_Music?

Nyanko-sensei, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/25581297

So the "Ki/oon" logo vs. "Ki/oon Records" logo vs. "Ki/oon Records [a division of?] Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc."

oh

Nyanko-sensei: here's no consensus on what a "label" is. (unfortunately, a debate probably won't help)

why am I not surprised that yindesu is involved ^^; and the only no vote on it

irc groupthink?

one good cop fighting a corrupt system?

I should be so happy my artists are so indie no one cares about imprints on their CDs

it says Ki/oon Records on the obi

Yep.

and the ID is KSC2272

more like KSC2 272 <-- which suggest Ki/oon as the right one

no matter how Dolce Vita is printed on CD

Nyanko-sensei: fwiw a lot of sub-labels seem to use their parent's catnos

Nyanko-sensei: So the question is: Is that just a variant of the imprint "Ki/oon"? Or is it a different label?

reosarevok: I would assume that's because the release is still "in the catalog of" the parent label.

That would usually be what I look at. Does the cat# suggest whose catalog the release is from.

might be a sub-label for just that artist

I note that it's not a sony cat no though

I always assumed the label is the catalog number

also, pls don't revert this: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/RFC-re...

I'm thinking about putting out an RFC proposing the AR "is an imprint of" along with an "imprint" label type. -- does that make sense, or bad idea?

Dunno, labels are hard :p

Nyanko-sensei: that one was a dumb joke

Nyanko-sensei: it's probably not obvious unless you know Jesus2xxx, but that proposal was a joke.

(the "RFC"

)

oh ^^;

the thing is, most CD+DVD releases have 2 catalog numbers associated to them

some compilations have a catalog number for each CD

so yeah, removing multiple labels will mess those up

I think imprints as separate from record labels would be a good idea

Anybody else? :-)

also make them have images attached to them, so people who add them would know the right imprint

hawke_: I have no idea. I'd rather not make the system yet more complex than it is

if that becomes a thing, I can safely add catalog numbers to labels without getting the imprint police on my tail

Nyanko-sensei: well, having images attached is beyond what can be done with an AR...but yeah that would be nice.

reosarevok: I'm hoping it will help make it clearer than the present "labels are all imprints mostly, except that sometimes they're also the company that owns them...kinda...or something."

hawke_: that might work for major stuff, but what about small indie labels?

You suddenly get a needless dupe?

a lot of big labels changed owners and imprints over years. and a lot of artists were printing their own fictional logos while having the record label imprint on it as well

it gets confusing really fast

reosarevok: Dunno. Maybe we can somehow get it to be used only when necessary, i.e. when the imprint changes hands?

I agree. Confusing, fast. Life used to seem to simple.

what image type do I use for the vinyl itself?

I think it's a picture of the vinyl inside a clear screen cover

but I'm not sure

http://www.discogs.com/release/157609 if you're curious

can we get 3 votes on this? https://musicbrainz.org/edit/25574962

aha, the answer is medium

didn't see that in the list at first

omg. I'll look like an idol maniac if someone will browse a certain idol group's edits...

oh, we have a "character" type for artists now

awesome

and thanks for generating a giant "edits to your subscriptions" email for me, nikki :P

Nyanko-sensei: considering your username, I Think that's the least of your worries

also /obvs

haha

flamingspinach: does that mean I can set 'reputable' on deadmau5? :trollface:

VxJasonxV: I think 夏目友人帳 fans and idol maniacs don't have a lot of overlap

I have no idea what that text is

natsume yuuzintyou

I have no idea who that is

which I assume Nyanko-sensei's username is a reference to

I have no idea what you're talking about

I loved Harvest Moon

that cat is my favorite character

holy hell I want to watch this series

you know, I love anime a lot

and I never watch it

it's really good

I blame the lack of a circle and the fact that I rarely watch TV for myself

the series

I watch it on my iPad before sleep/in the morning

I can't consume media when going to sleep or waking up

because in either case, I will fall asleep

sleeeep apnea is a biiiiiiiitch!

oh. I can't go to sleep without noise

hurr, can't find one EAN

I watched the first season

@find Louis Armstrong 1930-31

wat

why when I find a booklet and a joshinweb page with the names my eyes get sparkling and I start adding all the relationships to the release? and when I'm done it's past midnight already ;___;

time is unfair :<

:)

it's this sleep stuff that's annoying. If we didn't need that,w e could add relationships all night.

j-pop albums are evil. they credit everyone who worked on the song

as opposed to indie metal bands where they rarely credit individual members: arranged and composed by the whole band, because :effort: to credit separate members on each song