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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        I like it when the label page looks pretty and has all matching catnumbers. but I want a release to have the label that's exactly as printed on the release (with the caveheat that it's consistent over the release, if there is blup1234 on the bck and BLUP 1234 on the spine...)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hawke: I've... never seen that in japan. I suppose in theory there might be a reprint that had to have the graphics redone, maybe...
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      • kepstin-laptop
        or a misprint, those have got to happen now and then
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      • hawke
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: indeed.
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      • hawke
        “I like it when the label page looks pretty and has all matching catnumbers.” — this.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        but if a release is re-released, it gets a new catalogue number so it can have sales data tracked separately by the RIAJ.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        is see that very often that it says BLUP 1234 one on place and blup1234 other place. I also see hat most ebsites have a standardization they use and pick the catnumbers. and the website or example a label might do something with catalogue numbers too. like suddenly it's BL 1234 instead. and the online sight "blup records" might actually write out BL-1234
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      • hawke
        ZaphodBeeblebrox: that’s dependent on the label though, is it not?
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      • hawke
        er…
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      • hawke
        @ kepstin-laptop rather
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hawke: well, i'm talking only about labels that are associated with the RIAJ
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      • kepstin-laptop
        you obviously won't ever see a re-release on a different media format use the same catalogue number, since the media format is part of the catalogue number.
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        yea, but why? and not "because japanese and two parts of the code" I'm sure most labels have an internal standardization thingy liek that
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        Sublime frequencies for example
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      • ZaphodBeeblebrox
        tak "cd" to the end of their releases cd and "lp" on the vinyl releses
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      • kepstin-laptop
        sure, there are other labels out there that do that, and others that don't.
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      • hawke
        So anyway…if it’s almost entirely a cosmetic thing — why do we need to standardize?
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      • blup
        what
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      • blup
        that was weird
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      • hawke
        for the pretty catalog listings?
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      • blup
        ever since nexgentel did "maintenance" on the line, my connection has been screwy
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      • blup
        sorry i missed some of the conversation
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      • hawke
        blup: not much.
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      • hawke squints at http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release-group/e8ab318f-28c9-334a-b27a-2e58584b665b
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      • hawke
        Their source (http://www.pirouzu.net/discography/1991.html ) clearly does state “PCDA-001880”
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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        it's likely a typo
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      • HibiscusKazeneko
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      • hawke
        yeah, agreed.
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      • hawke
        The catalog listings will never be pretty anyway when they’re sorted by date and include pseudo-releases :-/
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      • kepstin-laptop
        right now you have to heuristically guess based on formatting, release dates, and label.
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      • hawke
        kepstin-laptop: isn’t release location = JP enough?
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      • hawke
        well, and date > 1989
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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        1989-6-30, you mean
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      • hawke
        yes.
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      • hawke
        approximately anyway
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      • HibiscusKazeneko knows of a host of early 1989 releases that follow old label formats
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      • hawke
        Pony Canyon was 1989-9-xx
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      • hawke
        (there are 1 or 2 releases after their first RIAJ-compliant release which are not RIAJ-compliant)
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      • hawke
        Hmm, I bet http://beta.musicbrainz.org/label/25ca0a54-17d0-4… would be better as a series, now that we have them…
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      • hawke
        Hrm…but release group, or release?
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      • hawke
        On the one hand, it seems to be specific to the Pony Canyon releases…which would suggest release
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      • hawke
        …but on the other hand there are also some pseudo-releases which presumably also count.
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      • hawke
        And it looks like http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release-group/61fb70a… should be split up into 3 or more release groups.
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