It’s not that it’s particularly difficult though (though tracking down AcoustIDs/cover art/performers is sometimes rough) — it’s that it’s very hard to actually see what the result of your work is going to look like.
2014-06-12 16359, 2014
hawke
e.g. if I wanted to try to normalize all the Kochel abbreviations on recordings to 'K.' instead of 'KV' — they just show up orange, I can’t really be sure if I’ve gotten them all.
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hawke
(Aside from there being 42000 recordings making that a big project)
2014-06-12 16332, 2014
CallerNo6
Even for that, it would help to write out a best-practice workflow for all those steps.
2014-06-12 16354, 2014
CallerNo6
How do I compare fingerprints? Once I do, how close is close enough?
2014-06-12 16356, 2014
CallerNo6
etc
2014-06-12 16331, 2014
hawke
Heh.
2014-06-12 16355, 2014
hawke
I’m not quite sure what such a thing would look like.
2014-06-12 16304, 2014
CallerNo6
e.g. I've spend probably two man-days trying to come up with a workable cover art work flow and failed. I have kepstin's system bookmarked somewhere, I think.
2014-06-12 16333, 2014
CallerNo6
person-days
2014-06-12 16343, 2014
hawke
mouse-days?
2014-06-12 16354, 2014
hawke
Anyway, I feel like there are too many different approaches to have any kind of single document.
2014-06-12 16329, 2014
CallerNo6
That's exactly what discourages people like me from editing in the first place.
2014-06-12 16335, 2014
hawke
like, IIRC a fair amount of our documentation takes the approach of adding a new release for a pop artist.
2014-06-12 16341, 2014
hawke
(or for a classical artist, even)
2014-06-12 16351, 2014
hawke
but that doesn't really help with cleanup.
2014-06-12 16358, 2014
CallerNo6
no, agreed
2014-06-12 16326, 2014
hawke
And once you're thinking towards cleanup: you could approach from 'find a release and add all the relevant information'
2014-06-12 16336, 2014
hawke
or 'go through the recordings and make sure they're right'
2014-06-12 16345, 2014
hawke
or 'go through the works and make sure they're right'
2014-06-12 16350, 2014
hawke
and probably some others.
2014-06-12 16346, 2014
CallerNo6
too overwhelming (for me)
2014-06-12 16310, 2014
kepstin-laptop should maybe write up his cover art stuff as a blog post or something.
2014-06-12 16328, 2014
CallerNo6 thought about emailing the IA and asking if they have suggestions. specifically, for doing vinyl covers.
2014-06-12 16300, 2014
CallerNo6
(other than "buy a bigger scanner, loser")
2014-06-12 16342, 2014
kepstin-laptop
yeah, there's two ways to go about that, you can either scan it piecewise and recombine, or carefully set up lighting and take a photo.
2014-06-12 16305, 2014
kepstin-laptop doesn't have any vinyl, but he's done a lot of recombining of stuff for digipaks
2014-06-12 16317, 2014
kepstin-laptop
those generally have seams or bends where you can hide the artifacts, though.
2014-06-12 16337, 2014
CallerNo6
helpful
2014-06-12 16339, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I have a small pile of cds beside my scanner now, been putting them off :/
2014-06-12 16346, 2014
kepstin-laptop
should just document them when I do them.
2014-06-12 16317, 2014
CallerNo6
meticulous photoshop/gimp work is great, but too much work for the casual contributor I'd think
2014-06-12 16307, 2014
hawke
You don’t actually need to set up the lighting that carefully.
2014-06-12 16339, 2014
hawke
I did some adequate vinyl covers…just photograph, correct for the lens, and scale appropriately.
2014-06-12 16312, 2014
kepstin-laptop
it's mostly just a matter of avoiding glare and having a neutral-color thing in the photo to correct white-balance.
2014-06-12 16320, 2014
hawke
nod.
2014-06-12 16345, 2014
hawke
CallerNo6: doesn’t require much gimp/photoshop unless you’re scanning.
2014-06-12 16357, 2014
hawke
Interestingly: a friend of mine is getting me a large-format scanner.
“Using "major" or "minor" is the preferred style for generic Works titles in English” — does that mean that we *should* add major/minor to works titles, but not track titles (“Do not add "major" or "minor" if these words are omitted in the source”)?
2014-06-12 16331, 2014
hawke
Or does that just mean not to use the 'C' for major and 'c' for minor method?
2014-06-12 16317, 2014
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CallerNo6
That predates the key attribute of course
2014-06-12 16341, 2014
hawke
It does, but it’s still relevant
2014-06-12 16359, 2014
hawke
I think there’s some consensus that we can’t simply omit the key from the title
2014-06-12 16306, 2014
hawke
Otherwise half the works would just be called 'Sonata'