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could anyone give me a hint on how to remove the itunes relationship on http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/e850a340-5c... ?

ah, via the release editor, not the "edit relationships" link

Does anyone remember what the correct term for this type of case is?

I'm trying to submit a web release version of Black Sun Empire's Cruel and Unusual via Picard but it's very very different from any existing releases. What should I do?

You might need to ask in #musicbrainz-devel

this isn't a devel question though.

What is a "web release" then?

I thought you were trying to build something

Do you mean a digital download

?

a version of the album released only on the Internet as MP3/FLAC

yes sorry.

OK

Add it in the same release group as "Digital Media"

Add the release here

Use Digital Media as the medium format

Picard is splitting the release into ~5 different releases, some of which say different artists

Are there featured artists?

Collaborations / remixes

If they're just remixes, add the remix information in the track title and add the remixer as an AR (keeping the artist the same as the release artist)

For featured artists, refer to https://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Titles/F...

musicbrainz treats featured artists the same as collaborations?

Somewhat. What phrase is used to separate the artists?

&

OK, that's just a collaboration

Use the artist credit system to add the collaborating artist to the track

hm, the original data is pretty bad too... https://web.archive.org/web/20130105054140/http...

That's an easy fix

I can't get picard to behave and I don't want to manually type 25 tricky tracks.

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You don't have to

Picard will behave once you have the appropriate release

(in the database)

it's in a cluster in picard, how do I create a release?

You have to go onto the site and add it ot the database

to*

Do you not have an account?

yep

You do or don't?

bah, official site says released 2005, this version was released 2012

(my wording may have been bad)

I have an account

Good

sorry, missed the not there :)

Go to https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release-group/d830...

and add the release

this is a tricky one

How so?

if you look in archive.org, the release changed from 2010 to 2012

from 12 to 25 tracks

Two different releases

The Bandcamp page you linked to gives 12-12-2005 as the release date

HibiscusKazeneko: Bandcamp dates are sometimes set by bands as original dates, because reasons - I don't think Bandcamp even existed back then :)

I can't verify these releases as the artist deleted it :)

Deleted?

it's gone from the current bandcamp page

Ah

Was it ever made available elsewhere?

not to my knowledge

Doesn't look like it here either

I wonder what happened :(

It does look like all versions were released around the same time

I suspect they removed the release due to a licensing issue

Or it was a promotional gimmick

aha, the web release merged two discs

Right

I thought it looked identical to the CD in our database

fff. tracks reordered

voltagex: It looks like Black Sun Empire's entire Bandcamp page has been pulled down, not just that one release

should I even add it in that case?

Sure

Is there an updated version of the user script to remove ratings ? Mine doesn't work anymore

Lotheric-Work: I have no idea

I am resorting these tracks -_-

one day I will find an artist who respects metadata

Respects?

well they've randomised the tracks on this one, used the 2005 ISRC and made a new release

Ah

Can somebody explain me what’s with the mismatch of track lenghts of http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/60a13ddd-9e... and DiscID attached to it?

DiscID being correct and track lengts in release – not.

Oh, I found set track durations button…

there is already an edit which should solve that http://beta.musicbrainz.org/edit/28113562

or is that your edit

although you should make sure that your release really is the same (cat#, barcode)

JonnyJD_: That DiscID is not mine, but the track lengths are wrong by a big margin.

I just went to edit them when I saw I couldn’t because DiscID was already added (and, oh, with correct lengths!)

simukis_: yes, that is why I said you should check if that is your release (with same Disc ID) or if the original pre-Disc ID release is a different edition or similar

when cat# and barcode etc. match, then just set times from TOC (as you have done in the edit)