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Mineo
ah, via the release editor, not the "edit relationships" link
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HibiscusKazeneko
Does anyone remember what the correct term for this type of case is?
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HibiscusKazeneko
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HibiscusKazeneko
It reminds me of the soft, foamy cases VHS tapes of major movies came in
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voltagex
I'm trying to submit a web release version of Black Sun Empire's Cruel and Unusual via Picard but it's very very different from any existing releases. What should I do?
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12:36 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
You might need to ask in #musicbrainz-devel
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12:37 PM
voltagex
this isn't a devel question though.
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12:37 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
What is a "web release" then?
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12:37 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
I thought you were trying to build something
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12:37 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Do you mean a digital download
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12:37 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
?
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12:37 PM
voltagex
a version of the album released only on the Internet as MP3/FLAC
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12:37 PM
voltagex
yes sorry.
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12:37 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
OK
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12:37 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Add it in the same release group as "Digital Media"
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12:38 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
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12:38 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Add the release here
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12:38 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Use Digital Media as the medium format
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12:40 PM
voltagex
Picard is splitting the release into ~5 different releases, some of which say different artists
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12:40 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Are there featured artists?
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12:40 PM
voltagex
Collaborations / remixes
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12:42 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
If they're just remixes, add the remix information in the track title and add the remixer as an AR (keeping the artist the same as the release artist)
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12:42 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
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12:43 PM
voltagex
musicbrainz treats featured artists the same as collaborations?
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12:45 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Somewhat. What phrase is used to separate the artists?
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12:45 PM
voltagex
&
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12:45 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
OK, that's just a collaboration
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12:45 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Use the artist credit system to add the collaborating artist to the track
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12:48 PM
voltagex
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HibiscusKazeneko
That's an easy fix
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voltagex
I can't get picard to behave and I don't want to manually type 25 tricky tracks.
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12:49 PM
voltagex
>>
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HibiscusKazeneko
You don't have to
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HibiscusKazeneko
Picard will behave once you have the appropriate release
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HibiscusKazeneko
(in the database)
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voltagex
it's in a cluster in picard, how do I create a release?
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HibiscusKazeneko
You have to go onto the site and add it ot the database
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HibiscusKazeneko
to*
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HibiscusKazeneko
Do you not have an account?
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voltagex
yep
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HibiscusKazeneko
You do or don't?
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voltagex
bah, official site says released 2005, this version was released 2012
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HibiscusKazeneko
(my wording may have been bad)
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voltagex
I have an account
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12:52 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Good
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voltagex
sorry, missed the not there :)
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HibiscusKazeneko
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HibiscusKazeneko
and add the release
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voltagex
this is a tricky one
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12:54 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
How so?
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voltagex
if you look in
archive.org , the release changed from 2010 to 2012
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12:55 PM
voltagex
from 12 to 25 tracks
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12:55 PM
reoafk
Two different releases
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12:55 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
The Bandcamp page you linked to gives 12-12-2005 as the release date
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12:55 PM
reoafk hates when digital does that
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12:56 PM
reoafk
HibiscusKazeneko: Bandcamp dates are sometimes set by bands as original dates, because reasons - I don't think Bandcamp even existed back then :)
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voltagex
I can't verify these releases as the artist deleted it :)
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HibiscusKazeneko
Deleted?
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12:57 PM
voltagex
it's gone from the current bandcamp page
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HibiscusKazeneko
Ah
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HibiscusKazeneko
Was it ever made available elsewhere?
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12:59 PM
voltagex
not to my knowledge
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12:59 PM
HibiscusKazeneko just checked their offical webpage
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HibiscusKazeneko
Doesn't look like it here either
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voltagex
I wonder what happened :(
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HibiscusKazeneko
It does look like all versions were released around the same time
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HibiscusKazeneko
I suspect they removed the release due to a licensing issue
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HibiscusKazeneko
Or it was a promotional gimmick
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voltagex
aha, the web release merged two discs
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HibiscusKazeneko
Right
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HibiscusKazeneko
I thought it looked identical to the CD in our database
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voltagex
fff. tracks reordered
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HibiscusKazeneko
voltagex: It looks like Black Sun Empire's entire Bandcamp page has been pulled down, not just that one release
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voltagex
should I even add it in that case?
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HibiscusKazeneko
Sure
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Lotheric-Work
Is there an updated version of the user script to remove ratings ? Mine doesn't work anymore
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13:05 PM
HibiscusKazeneko has added lots of releases which are no longer available
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HibiscusKazeneko
Lotheric-Work: I have no idea
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voltagex
I am resorting these tracks -_-
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voltagex
one day I will find an artist who respects metadata
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13:07 PM
HibiscusKazeneko
Respects?
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13:08 PM
voltagex
well they've randomised the tracks on this one, used the 2005 ISRC and made a new release
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HibiscusKazeneko
Ah
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13:08 PM
HibiscusKazeneko interpreted the word "respects" to mean that they've tried to take down any mention of their works
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HibiscusKazeneko
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HibiscusKazeneko desperately needs a shower
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simukis_
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simukis_
DiscID being correct and track lengts in release – not.
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simukis_
Oh, I found set track durations button…
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13:38 PM
yeeeargh
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13:38 PM
yeeeargh
or is that your edit
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13:38 PM
JonnyJD_ voted yes
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JonnyJD_
although you should make sure that your release really is the same (cat#, barcode)
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13:39 PM
simukis_
JonnyJD_: That DiscID is not mine, but the track lengths are wrong by a big margin.
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simukis_
I just went to edit them when I saw I couldn’t because DiscID was already added (and, oh, with correct lengths!)
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13:41 PM
JonnyJD_
simukis_: yes, that is why I said you should check if that is your release (with same Disc ID) or if the original pre-Disc ID release is a different edition or similar
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13:41 PM
JonnyJD_
when cat# and barcode etc. match, then just set times from TOC (as you have done in the edit)
