#musicbrainz

I've never filled in that box

"artist no one has ever heard of"

(joking)

if joe blogs is a mashup artist, and another joe blogs isn't, then you could say "mashup artist"

some editors /only/ add a disambiguation comment if there are two similarly-named entities.

because they can predict

when another one will be added

(hurrrrrr)

which might mean that they are magic!

other editors add comments to anything that seems like it /might/ be mistaken for another entity now or in the future

in any case, think of it as a search hint

(at least, that's how I think of it)

Hmm. I edited Perturbator to note that he started performing as such in 2010. Somehow this became part of it https://musicbrainz.org/edit/28592031

I suppose it's harmless :P

https://musicbrainz.org/edit/28592032 the one I really intended :P

Actually, it's an improvement. Take credit for it :-)

what happens if an edit expires? I'm not going to want to sit and repeat work.

n1md4: most edits pass if they expire without votes

that is, the edit doesn't expire. The voting period expires.

I think things like adding artists and releases are auto-accepted anyway

(might be wrong)

ah

there's a flowchart for the lifecyle of an edit @ http://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Introduction_to...

:{

:) even

can someone pass this edit for me, I made a mistake http://musicbrainz.org/edit/28592091

n1

oops

?

You can cancel your own edits

and redo a correct one

ah, ok

If that's the full band name, I think the sort name would be "Spiller, Daniel & The Broken Record Project"

the best way to deal with recent edits you messed up is almost always to cancel them :)

For compilations do I add that to various artists, and then credit the artists in the track listing?

If it's that kind of compilation, yeah. Featured artists can get listed independently, or if just one track or two has a different credit, you can still attribute the album as a whole to the main artists. It really depends :P

hmm it's an album called chillout groove, with about 12 tracks, but only 3 or 4 different artists.

that's VA

10000%

great :)

bitmap: the ones i used a lot are fast cancel and edit recording comments :) but for that last one i did 2 tweaks that i would have liked to PR you — i lost them but they were simple enough i could redo if you put on github

Votes please: https://musicbrainz.org/artist/fb3cc8f5-734a-48...

Approved.

the very second I was voting yes

Thanks!

Wonder if the editor should have prevented the original edit?

n1md4: A lot of people here love when people add "obscure stuff". The more obscure, the better. :)

Mineo: I looked at the history for Happy Holidays 2013 by Dream Theater, I was somewhat amused to see you did a lot to it after I added it :P

then months later, you added MMMMMM and I did stuff to that :D

well, at least we're even now :)

Freso: I'll do my best.

n1md4: :)

n1md4: Welcome to #mb anyway! :)

Please do stick around and ask whatever pops up.

greate thanks.

Found a same bundle more

small*

:)

I love doing all these edits, spent many an evening on various metadata sites, scanner, editing, searching ... all in the name of getting decent XBMC scraper results ;)

Heh.

I wish XBMC would start storing artists by their MBID instead of by name.

One artist can go by several names, and one name can "belong" to several artists. Not to mention when something is by "Artist A & Artist B" etc.

19:24 < Freso> I wish XBMC would start storing artists by their MBID instead of by name.

+9001, if I had someone to pay to do that change I would

Yeah. That's like my main issue with XBMC at the moment.

yes, there I have a number of issues when scraping, and think an unambigious UID would be perfect! 100% success everytime; providing the metadata exists.

derwin: :)

I started writing an XBMC plugin once to sync up ratings between XBMC and ones MB profile, but I never got very far with it.

Was it warp who's been asking for something like this? I don't know. I still want to do it, but I only rarely find myself in a coding mood anymore.

n1md4: "providing the metadata exists" - yeah, we can't guarantee that every artist will be there (esp. these days will all the self-releases online etc.), so such a system would have to fall back on something else.

But MB does have a pretty good coverage of a large chunk of music, including non-"mainstream" stuff.

There's the universal album / artist scaper that uses MBs API. I'm not 100% sure, it might even support MBID, it's more likely users don't have their collections tagged correctly, and to avoid the "your scraper is crap" sort comments, I guess it uses names too.

(And getting more applications to use it more, would give more incentive to more people to add more data, leading to even better coverage, etc.)

I'll have to check. The dev who wrote that plugin is called Olympia (iirc)

So pleased these are all going in! Didn't like the idea of manually adding them all ... even if I am now, but this feels worthy!

n1md4: Yep. My main issue with that is the apparently most XBMC dev types seem to think that the data (entry) model behind TheTVdb (and thus, TheAudioDB) is state-of-the-art, meaning they'd probably prefer to just switch to TheAudioDB completely if they could.

Which irks me to no end. :p

hah

I'm hybrid

mb seems far more technically correct

tvdb seems to have dictators running it

moviedb seems reasonable

movies are way easier to model than tv shows

Yeah. I like MovieDB. I probably like MovieDB more than TV or AudioDB combined. :p

and yes, you get terrible impression of thetvdb

audiodb uses mb? audiodb being a bit more about the reviews and moods, styles etc ... could be wrong.

But MovieDB also seems like it has a more flexible data structure.

from the way they appear to arrive at broken consensus

You can add a lot of data about movies that you can't about e.g. TV shows on TVdb.

moviedb does tv now too, so there should be a gradual shift

n1md4: Yeah. And AudioDB also does cover art, which is relatively new for MusicBrainz. However, MB currently has more releases with cover art than AudioDB has releases in all.

n1md4: And CritiqueBrainz will be the "review" site pendant for MB.

yeah, does seem like it's duplicating work ...

( http://critiquebrainz.org/ I think?)

And we will *eventually* implement genres at least. :p

I'd have thought MB for music (and basic artwork), fanart for the good stuff - although their strict about what's good ... rightly so, arguably.)

not entirely sure why theaudiodb exists ... something about allmusic shutting the community API access

I'd have thought at that point, jump aboard MB .. but hey, what do I know.

(fanart=fanart.tv)

Re: MB edits. what's the difference between bootleg and promotional?

?

actually, got it

MB accepts bootleg!!! /me tips his hat!