... in actual use, I've switched to using 128kbit/s opus for music on the go :)
2014-08-05 21723, 2014
Lotheric
keep your lossless for archiving and encode to either mp3/ogg/m4a for your portable devices
2014-08-05 21729, 2014
kepstin-laptop
exactly
2014-08-05 21745, 2014
andymax
Yes
2014-08-05 21707, 2014
andymax
...but for lossless ...WAV?
2014-08-05 21722, 2014
derwin
if you want to waste a ton of diskspace and not be able to tag it, sure, WAV
2014-08-05 21730, 2014
derwin
if you want to waste a ton of diskspace and be able to tag it, AIFF
2014-08-05 21740, 2014
kepstin-laptop
well, if you're just archiving your lossless stuff, use whatever you like, tak, ape, flac, alac, ...
2014-08-05 21742, 2014
derwin
if you want to waste less disk space and use it in iTunes/iDevices, ALAC
2014-08-05 21759, 2014
derwin
if you want to use a format that anyone actually uses to share music, FLAC
2014-08-05 21748, 2014
chungy
You can get a plugin to play FLAC directly in iTunes, it just won't help for Apple's iDevices :P
2014-08-05 21752, 2014
derwin
the above does not really seem a complex matrix, but it for sure doesn't point to WAV
2014-08-05 21755, 2014
reosarevok
Good thing about them being lossless, if you change your mind you only lose the time to reconvert them
2014-08-05 21704, 2014
kepstin-laptop
as long as you have audio in a lossless codec that ffmpeg can decode, you never need to worry about losing it :)
2014-08-05 21713, 2014
andymax
the matrix says lo-fi mp3
2014-08-05 21742, 2014
reosarevok
mp3 v0 for portable devices, flac for storage seems perfectly workable
2014-08-05 21702, 2014
reosarevok
(less than v0 would probably do, for the standard portable earbuds, but :) )
2014-08-05 21706, 2014
andymax
it's for download
2014-08-05 21708, 2014
kepstin-laptop
only reason to use mp3 nowadays is that you have really old player devices that don't do aac or vorbis, or you don't have a good aac encoder.
2014-08-05 21725, 2014
chungy
there was a brief time I experimented with using WavPack's lossy+correction format (lossless with both files), that stopped when my iPod 4g died (Which had Rockbox on it)
2014-08-05 21735, 2014
kepstin-laptop
(note that the open-source aac encoders are pretty bad, to the point where using lame is probably a better idea)
2014-08-05 21751, 2014
chungy
There's lots of current Blu-ray players and whatnot that ONLY do MP3 (if you can insert a USB stick or CD-R or similar) :/
2014-08-05 21702, 2014
reosarevok
" as "penises" every time I check FB
2014-08-05 21705, 2014
chungy
kind of annoying, but LAME has decent quality these days so meh
2014-08-05 21714, 2014
kepstin-laptop
reosarevok: ...
2014-08-05 21720, 2014
reosarevok
Kind of a weird effect :p
2014-08-05 21726, 2014
reosarevok is sleepy. Don't ask
2014-08-05 21741, 2014
Lotheric
what? you guys do not uses realaduio ?
2014-08-05 21743, 2014
Lotheric jokes
2014-08-05 21707, 2014
chungy
i'm 12 and what is this
2014-08-05 21709, 2014
chungy ducks
2014-08-05 21712, 2014
Lotheric
lol
2014-08-05 21714, 2014
reosarevok
I keep all my music in convenient youtube stream quality!
2014-08-05 21716, 2014
Lotheric
ancient format
2014-08-05 21725, 2014
chungy
[Buffering ... 60%]
2014-08-05 21730, 2014
reosarevok
(funnily enough, I'm so lazy about even downloading music lately, that's almost true...)
2014-08-05 21717, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I have a group of people I do plug.dj stuff with regularly, and the only way to get audio into there is to use a youtube video or soundcloud stream
2014-08-05 21736, 2014
reosarevok
Heh, I haven't used plug in ages
2014-08-05 21755, 2014
reosarevok
Maybe I should check it out again - is there anything else than Czech/Slovak dnb rooms nowadays?
2014-08-05 21755, 2014
chungy
kepstin-laptop: ouch
2014-08-05 21715, 2014
chungy
what happened to good old shoutcast
2014-08-05 21717, 2014
derwin
what in the world is plug.dj?
2014-08-05 21725, 2014
kepstin-laptop
it saves them from having to handle the music rights/royalties issues themselves
2014-08-05 21726, 2014
reosarevok
turntable.fm for non-US people
2014-08-05 21737, 2014
robmorrissey joined the channel
2014-08-05 21750, 2014
kepstin-laptop
turntable.fm allows you to upload tracks directly to them, but that means they are dealing with the riaa directly
2014-08-05 21719, 2014
derwin
turntable.fm went under
2014-08-05 21726, 2014
kepstin-laptop wouldn't know :)
2014-08-05 21726, 2014
misterswag joined the channel
2014-08-05 21758, 2014
reosarevok
Yeah, they closed us non-US people ages ago
2014-08-05 21706, 2014
Nyanko-sensei joined the channel
2014-08-05 21706, 2014
reosarevok
Which might be related to the whole going-under thing
2014-08-05 21719, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I've used turntable once a couple years back when I was visiting the states.
2014-08-05 21728, 2014
Freso
kepstin-laptop: A few years ago, the Danish royalty organisation ("KODA"), starting charging Danish music bloggers for their usage of YouTube, SoundCloud, etc. embedding in the blogs.
2014-08-05 21732, 2014
Lotheric still can't use spotify in Canada
2014-08-05 21736, 2014
Lotheric
>.<
2014-08-05 21752, 2014
kepstin-laptop
heh. I signed up on thespotify waiting list
2014-08-05 21754, 2014
reosarevok
You're not missing that much, and I say it as a subscriber :p
2014-08-05 21700, 2014
kepstin-laptop
but I probably won't use it anyways
2014-08-05 21731, 2014
reosarevok
Feeling slightly better by giving the artist 0.00000001€ or something instead of 0 by streaming it somewhere else
