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      • kepstin
        I'd say "remember when last.fm looked like that", except that it never actually looked like that ;)
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      • kepstin
        For a while, I made a crazy userscript for last.fm that restyled it :)
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      • derwin
        I miss last.fm :/
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      • Yurim
        Hi, did you hear about the discogs issue, where they respond with 404 to the artist URLS stored in MB? E.g. http://www.discogs.com/artist/82730 vs. http://www.discogs.com/artist/82730-Beatles-The Is this a bug or are they shutting us out?
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      • chungy
        Seems that they just changed how their site's code looks up artists, it's probably nothing so conspiracy-filled :P
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      • chirlu`
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      • chungy
        so http://www.discogs.com/artist/82730- works, I guess that's simple enough to fix...
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      • chirlu`
        Yeah, they ignore everything after the -, it’s just for search engine optimization: http://www.discogs.com/artist/82730-discogs-links…
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      • Yurim
        ok, so it's been taken care of. great.
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      • KRSCuan
        Is there still a way to vote down edits before their normal expiry date?
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      • KRSCuan
        Or did MBS-3663 remove that?
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      • KRSCuan
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      • KRSCuan
        But things would get even more messy if I tried to fix the release while those edits are still in queue.
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      • KRSCuan
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/28975656 has 3 unaminous no votes and is still open.
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      • reosarevok
        IIRC they stay open for 24 or 48 h?
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      • reosarevok
        After the first No vote
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      • reosarevok
        So that the editor can react
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      • reosarevok
        But don't remember the details
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      • chirlu`
        From the code, it’s 72 hours after the first No vote.
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      • KRSCuan
        Indeed, that's what I figured from search for edits with many no votes too.
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      • KRSCuan
        Though I could just approve the edits (minus the one above) if we can deal with losing track MBIDs.
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      • chirlu`
        The editor could cancel the edit. They are new, so they may not know about this (and it hasn’t been mentioned yet).
      • 2014-08-23 23528, 2014

      • KRSCuan
        The problematic stuff is turning disc 5 of the box set (only disc entered so far into disc 1), then re-adding disc 5 again.
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      • KRSCuan
        Three edits total.
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      • chirlu`
        Well, the edits are going to fail anyway, so you could just ignore them and do your fixes, I think.
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      • KRSCuan
        I don't like to have the release in an incorrect state with the pending disc, even if it's just for three days instead of seven.
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      • KRSCuan
        So I thought it might have been better to just approve http://musicbrainz.org/edit/28975382.
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      • JESUS2099
        i guess it’s probably know nbut i have many 502 Bad Gateway yesterday and today
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      • KillDaBOB
        yeah. i’m getting a lot of 502s right now
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      • kepstin ponders how to respond to https://twitter.com/hatsunetsumikos/status/503164118283452416
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      • kepstin does so
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      • kepstin
        writing in english that i've double-checked gives reasonably accurate results in google translator :)
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      • kepstin
        "Tim Vegas" is a pseudonym, I'm pretty sure he's not proficient in English; the tweet after that he says "google translate is my friend" or something to that effect :)
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      • reosarevok
        "Format: Other" I assume?
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      • drsaunders
        i saw a commercial for toothbrushes that played music...and wondered if anyone would add to db
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, that one seems to list a 16-track tracklist
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      • reosarevok
        If a toothbrush contained a full album, we probably should add it :p
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      • kepstin
        huh, so that's an mp3 player witha preloaded, unchangable music selection?
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      • kepstin
        how odd.
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      • kepstin
        and yeah, i remember those toothbrush commercials.
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      • kepstin
        I think they used tracks cut down to 90-120 seconds or so, and they acted as a timer to ensure you spent at least that long brushing teeth.
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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        So do I
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      • HibiscusKazeneko
        They had lollipops called "SoundBites" that would play music whenever the candy was in your mouth
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      • CallerNo6 tries to imagine inspiring tooth-brushing music
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      • CallerNo6
        flight of the bumblebee?
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      • entil
        what's the policy with a release like this? http://musicbrainz.org/release/785fd1a7-bd32-4ff7…
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      • entil
        it's got no disc ids, the release (as per cat no) contains another relase
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      • entil
        should the disc id be attached accordingly?
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      • CallerNo6
        entil: I wouldn't. DiscIDs differ between pressings.
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      • entil
        that's strange, because I've found quite a few that match a different release
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      • CallerNo6
        Sure. That /might/ be the case.
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      • CallerNo6
        At the same time, the same exact release may have more than one DiscID.
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      • entil
        for example Mandylion by The Gathering; I have the Sand and Mercury box and mb identifies five releases, all of them not the Sand and Mercury box ;)
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      • CallerNo6
        That could be accurate. It could also be an artifact from before NGS, when releases were stored differently.
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      • entil
        some releases are real messy, but I dunno... I'm collecting release uuids and disc ids for my flacs and I manually fudged that if_then_else release to match the collector box
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      • entil
        kinda hate doing that because it's invalid, and musicbrainz is none the wiser because it doesn't have a real disc id there, just a comment saying "this release"
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      • entil
        why isn't it better to store the disc id also in musicbrainz for that release? it's "kinda" there as an annotation anyway, but only screws up people who want to have their records straight :/
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      • CallerNo6
        I'm not sure I follow you.
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      • entil
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      • entil
        it contains digipak 77298-2, it says so in the annotation, but it doesn't have its disc id
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      • entil
        and if I understood you correct, adding that disc id is not ok
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      • reosarevok
        Heh
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      • entil
        it probably isn't even a different pressing from the vailla digipak release
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      • entil
        *vanilla
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      • reosarevok
        This one might be a special case, since it does sound (from http://www.discogs.com/release/1070532 ) that it literally just has the original release inside a box
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      • entil
        I just dug the digipak out, got it in front of me, and verified it as well
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      • reosarevok
        In that case I wouldn't be against adding that discID I guess
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      • CallerNo6
        I stand by my advice. Unless you know for a fact that it's the same pressing, I don't think it's right to add the DiscID from a different release.
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      • entil
        I just wanted to check because there's sometimes somewhat nasty data on mb and I'd rather contribute to something clean.. though sometimes I feel like I'm just especially good at finding broken stuff ;)
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      • entil
        cNfrYa0BA1_jZWVyVhZAbNnjIHI- is the id it matches to
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      • entil
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      • entil
        the data's a bit lacking but the cat no matches still
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      • entil
        that's proof it's the same pressing, right?
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      • reosarevok
        If you have this specific release, then by all means do attach the discID :)
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      • reosarevok
        (the one with the box)
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      • entil
        I'd also tend to add it because the disc id resolves to the release that's mentioned in the annotation anyway
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      • reosarevok
        If you have the other, please just fix the other one to have the missing data :)
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      • reosarevok
        (whether you attach the discID to the box one or not)
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      • entil
        now I'm not sure I follow :D fixing the other one, as I understand it, means attaching the relevant disc id (of the digipak release inside) to the box release
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      • entil
        because now my flac ripper thinks I have the digipak release, which is wrong; I have the box (containing the digipak and poster and sticker)
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      • CallerNo6
        The only way to prove it's the same pressing is to have a copy of both releases (or find somebody who does)
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      • reosarevok
        hahaha
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      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • reosarevok
        Then yes, please do add the discID!
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      • entil
        really? why would it resolve to the same disc id if it's not the same pressing?
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      • entil
        I can take pics if you want :D