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hmm.

well, I don't really understand our search server :/

NOT (Japan OR unknown), to be precise

But that should be logically equivalent.

hawke: that's not the best way I can think of to say "no works list on cover" :-) oh well.

CallerNo6: Yeah, you’re right.

and "lang:jpn AND NOT country:( jp OR unknown )" is different again

hawke: I was thinking of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Classical_Release_T... . I thought (mistakenly) that the current guidelines retained that part.

er, no, that's the same

owell. search server's only an approximation :/

you'd probably want a report for that, really

hawke: (for untitled releases, that is)

HibiscusKazeneko: I think you wrote on one of the threads on the style list that there'd never be a second Jay-Z.

Well guess what: http://www.discogs.com/artist/190684

hmm. writing a sql query against release countries is more complicated now that releases can have multiple countries :/

I'm curious as to whether Shawn Carter sued this guy

He's very trademark-aggressive

CallerNo6: Which part, specifically?

HibiscusKazeneko: why are you preoccupied with matters of legality surrounding intellectual property?

For the sake of my own safety

And others'

CallerNo6: if you mean “The Release Title should contain the names of the works on the release” — that seems very unwieldy with this release

I think you are unreasonably preoccupied with the risk in question.

derwin: http://didyouknowgaming.com/search/dayz

Do you ride in automobiles, for example? If so, do you spend the whole time worried about the risk of death involved?

Sometimes

hawke: yes, that part. And yes, not a good fit for this release.

HibiscusKazeneko: so the store you just pasted is " Jay-Z's lawyers tried to get us to stop using DayZ and change it to ZDay, actually. We declined. But it did make me laugh. "

iow, the thing you are afraid of did not happen.

We don't know the whole story

Well, DJ Jay-Z used the name before him.

yes, the whole story tells that there was something to be REALLY AFRAID OF

By the current guidelines, isn't it a list of composers separated by a slash? (which was one of the options you suggested, but maybe you were kidding)

hawke:^^

CallerNo6: yeah, but in this case there’s only one composer.

Or well, I don't know whether Carter already had that name when he was hanging with hawaiian shirts and still was on Jaz's dick.

hawke: understood

one composer separated by a slash

CallerNo6: and it seems like this release also has some prominence for the performers (I know that was not considered when this rev of the CSG was proposed)

But I think I prefer "Sarasate" as the title.

CallerNo6: but self-titled as composer+performers, or just composer? and if composer+performers, how to separate them?

dunno. mid dot like the spine?

It does point out some gaps in the CSG title guidelines

yeah.

That's what I liked about the old guideline. It was clunky, but unambiguous.

Wait. That's two things I liked about it.

Heh

Three, probably, if we include "old"

FWIW there is approximately nothing I like about the old guideline. :-)

Must not be that unambiguous either, given the 'details' section.

CallerNo6: Think of a better wording for that “list of composers” thing though, it should be pretty trivial to change that.

word

that's not a better wording!

obviously not hiding too well

Well, except if you consider "wording" as "the action of saying 'word' "

What can I say, I'm bad at hiding in silence :p

But time for a shower and probably bed now. Night! :)

night reoafk

methinks my Internet has been cut down

or at least my browser

CallerNo6: So with the middle-dot thing, would you say we should only credit the two most prominent artists as on the spine? or the full front cover?

Is Various Artists showing up to anyone else as if it has an edit pending?

I blame the RIAA

I doubt they had anything to do with this

HibiscusKazeneko: how can you be sure???

They don't regularly invade our site, do they?

sure they do! you're constantly on guard for their machinations so they must!

on the internet, nobody knows you're the RIAA

or a dog

Seriously, this is weird: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/89ad4ac3-39f7-470...

Is there a way to hide a pending edit from regular view? Or is this a glitch on my end?

why does it matter?

Why shouldn't it?

If there's a way for auto-editors or administrators to hide their edits it's prone to abuse

Do pending merges show as edits for VA?

you seem very sensitive to the idea of "abuse"

is there any indicatin that anyone cares enough about musicbrainz to engage in this sort of "abuse" ?

I used to be a Newgrounder. It was so common there people expected it.

How am I to know

so the only rational behavior is to behave as if the worst case is true!!!

there's no indication of anything like that behavior, but it's very important that we protect against this abuse which isn't happening

HibiscusKazeneko: It’s a special case for Various Artists: 'open edits' would be huge, so it’s hidden. You also can’t subscribe to VA

(At least I think that’s the case.

The header for Capcom Sound Team is also yellow. I checked its open edits and nothing.

So either there's an open edit that's hidden from public view or I'm experiencing a bug

hawke: beats the crap outta me. I see that e.g. arkivmusic credits only Julia Fischer.

I even checked the beta server to see if it was a server-side issue and it's yellow there too

http://musicbrainz.org/edit/29045740 ?

Various Artists is yellow too

I see 6 open edits for Capcom Sound Team

That was what I was about to mention: “TVサントラ”

Shouldn't that go in [soundtrack] though?

I guess it could be used for both

I don’t know. I don’t know how to find the open edit for that one to see the justification. :-

My dad wants to go to dinner

be back later

gah, damn that computer lag

hawke: I know how to search for the edits.

I suppose you can just do a regular edit search, can’t you?

But that doesn’t find anything.

(for VA)

Just look at my open ones: http://musicbrainz.org/user/KRSCuan/edits/open

I'm removing the TVサントラ alias from VA.

Merging a newly created TVサントラ entry into [soundtrack]

Oh great.